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jqw736145 10-27-2002 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by SR
I don't see why americans want to keep their guns so badly.
keeps population growth under control

:1orglaugh

Funkito 10-27-2002 11:19 AM

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I don't see why americans want to keep their guns so badly.
Go see Bowling For Columbine. It ain't just about new gun laws (which won't solve the problem much anyways). The movie looks into that question more than anything else--what are we so fucking afraid of? Where does this obsession with violent self-defense come from?

Fuck if I know.

redmf 10-27-2002 11:26 AM

Maybe we should put these people on trial, convict them, and hang the sob's. I could give a shit what made them pull the trigger, they did it now HANG the useless bastards!:ak47: :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

jqw736145 10-27-2002 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by redmf
Maybe we should put these people on trial, convict them, and hang the sob's. I could give a shit what made them pull the trigger, they did it now HANG the useless bastards!:ak47:
yes, you're right. capital punishment has been proven to work :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

UnseenWorld 10-27-2002 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by DrGuile
To Quote that Michael Moores fella:

"Of course, had Congress not caved in to the NRA we would have known after the first HOUR of the first day of the killings three weeks ago that those bullets were coming out of a rifle that belonged to John Williams/Mohammad. How would we know this? It's right there in the state records in New Jersey: this gun was purchased this past July, under the name of John Mohammad!


Duh! Do you really believe John Mohammed would have bought the gun legally if that procedure had been in effect?

No, he would have bought a stolen gun clandestinely, which is how a lot of the guns obtained for crime are obtained.

If that procedure had been in effect, the gun would have been traced to a Joe Shmoe who would likely tell authorities that the gun was among a number of things stolen in a burglary.

Sly_RJ 10-27-2002 11:34 AM

I am truly amazed. I have never seen so many gun control advocates admit that people kill people, instead of their former argument, guns kill people. This is amazing.

And yes, Americans are fucked up. Stupid parents everywhere, and they keep breeding like fucking rabbits. More bad parents added to the population. Yay.

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In the US many people carry handguns so they always have a gun with them.
I know many, many people with guns. But I don't know any that carry theirs around with them so that they "always" have a gun on hand. Where did you find this statistic? It was my understanding that carrying a gun, without a special permit (which is hard to get), is a very bad idea that can get you in some deep shit. But of course, since many people follow their own personal laws, some still carry their guns.

So, now that we've established that people have no problem breaking the law when it comes to safety, how would gun laws help again? If guns were banned tomorrow, there are many, many neighborhoods and cities you would never catch me in again.

What so many people don't realize, is in order for a law to work, it must be legitimate. The banning of guns would never become legitimate in the United States, just like pot being illegal, people will still do it. So why bother? The same people that argue for gun control are arguing for legalized pot... am I the only one seeing the irony here?

UnseenWorld 10-27-2002 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by .:Frog:.

Nah that isn't true.
The problem is the type of gun.

The gun owners in Canada own rifles or shotguns for hunting animals, and we don't carry them around very often. In the US many people carry handguns so they always have a gun with them.

That is half the problem, the other problem is Americans being more violent.
More killers and idiots in the US then Canada for sure.

I don't know what kind of logic they teach in your part of the world, but you start out arguing that it's wrong that the problem isn't guns, it's Americans, but then you turn around and argue my point!

Webby 10-27-2002 11:37 AM

"Gun Control" Love that expression! Lends some credibility with words! *lol*

Obviously another US euphemism (like "collateral damage" blah) which means there ain't any "control" - just a fucking joke! :Graucho

We got expressions like "we need our guns" - yea OK!:-) Nuff said!

eroswebmaster 10-27-2002 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by untitled


yeah we need our guns, what if the government ordered the military to attack civilians? or what if america was invaded?

OMG i'm so worried!

Dipshits like you won't understand the whole camel getting it's nose into the tent analogy so I won't try to explain it.

Sly_RJ 10-27-2002 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by Webby
We got expressions like "we need our guns" - yea OK!:-) Nuff said!
Just leave me alone. I need my pot. It doesn't hurt anyone if I use it responsibly. I'm responsible. I need my pot.

Undutchable 10-27-2002 12:01 PM

Guns are bad, hmmmkay

Simon-interaid 10-27-2002 12:11 PM

Amputate Your Head >>

Is that the best argument you have?


calling me a punk ass because I think US needs better gun laws?


tough man huh?

Undutchable 10-27-2002 12:14 PM

Could any of you trigger happy folks explain to me why devices that are made to deliver massive destruction on impact, specifically on human beings, are a GOOD thing to have available on every streetcorner? I'm so proud of the Netherlands, we only have 0.70 :D Hooray for common sense!

AaronM 10-27-2002 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Simon-interaid
Just heard on the news some kid went on a shooting rampage in Oklahoma.


2 dead 6 wounded.

Maybe its time for tougher gun laws?

They are pretty tough already...maybe it is time to enforce them better.

Simon-interaid 10-27-2002 12:19 PM

A while back I was in Seattle and went to Kmat to get winshield wipers for my car.

I go in a bit further ...

I am surrounded with AK47 and all other sorts of machine guns.

I look at the counter , it was mostly 24 - 25 year olds buying all sorts of weapons.


I dont think thats right.

Webby 10-27-2002 12:26 PM

Sly_RJ:

*lol*... I must just join ya and commit an offense!! :Graucho


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