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lol what an anoying fella I hate know it alls Robbie.... your complete cluless rant on the biz is incorrect and flawed of course affiliates don't share in the cost of site production...duhhhhh and site owners don't share in the cost of the affiliates time spent promoting... maybe youer time is worth zero to you... hence your weird little rant..... but to some people like me ... my time is extremely valuble if you weren't such a pansy I would educate you on the system of affiliate marketing and brand / product promotion and its relation to high ROI for your investment dollar... I would explain how and why and what visibility is... maybe I would explain in detail how those so called worthless affiliates in your eyes are actually worth more if they are sending 1 hit per day then your one type in but it would be pointless lmao so just keep on posting away and smelling your armpits because a few guys gave you a pat on the back or kissed your ass for your traffic. lmao if you honestly believe affiliates don't get cheated lol... you have a right to believe in santa as well |
we got some angry people in this thread
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But skeaking a peek up your wifes skirt! |
ooookaaaay :)
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If programs stopped paying affiliates they would make their own sites and start affiliate programs all over again.
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you still slurping anal seepage and creampies from the ass of guys for free??
Oh, wait! You """ make money hand over fist...""" which obviously means you are done practicing and are finally charging $1 per. To clarify, that's one Canadian dollar. |
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BTW check this this out...pretty please http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/849686-fetish-hits-double-payout-day-8-30-2008-a.html |
You don't make any money.
How mache are you making with this shit? http://bobbyslist.com/ or this one http://barelylegalnexus.com/ |
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just being honest and pointing out the obvious about people in general |
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for any business should in order to keep the business growing in one business model or another |
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exactly the promlem with online adult is hat you have clueless people who got luck after throwing up some links etc profess to be the uber end all be all they even put these people on panels etc lmao :) I love GFY |
Bump for Slutty Dollars & Aftershock.
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So if we have 15,000+ programs, including processor programs, and out of them just over 100 do shady xsales screwing the member over. That's .6%
Then if a program has 10,000 webmasters and 10% are active that is 1000 active Webmasters, having 1% fraud base would mean 10 people. That's a piss low number. If Webmasters produce about half the sales for the global programs. (since we have no idea) That would mean Webmasters have a much higher chance of frauding than the average program would. And if traffic/sales is split between programs and webmasters, it would mean Webmasters screw the surfer over more. |
yeah... hmmm..
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Fraud by anyone is bad:2 cents:
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So you make money hand over fist with these? http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/849706-pussyservers-top-money-sites.html not being smart I'm just asking
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Please explain?? Thanks :) |
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View Post Today, 12:24 PM Remove user from ignore listBlack_Widow This message is hidden because Black_Widow is on your ignore list. I Never .. I mean never read messages of people on my ignore list and since the thread is started by someone on my ignore list I honestly just closed it please feel free to voice whatever concerns were raised |
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Nonetheless, the argument on both sides of the coin are retarded. You don't see American Airlines bitching that the local travel agents aren't paying for the cost of jet fuel. Both sides are profitible business models with pros and cons. I personally think it's a great time to be an affiliate. Everyone who had a digital camera and wanted some bro status on the boards created their own program. Many with no traffic in their back pocket and little money in the bank. The program market is so oversaturated that companies need to give ridiculous offers to affiliates just to keep them happy. Not to mention that as an affiliate, you can simply swap your sponsor at any time if you have issues with them. It isn't to say that starting a program is dumb, just that there are a lot of people who have no business starting a program and should have spent their time and money building traffic which will always be profitible. |
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You have good points pocketkangaroo. But I know the man hours I put in as an affiliate over the last 10 years, and compared to the work on a paysite it isn't even close. Not saying anything bad one way or another...just saying that's the way it is. And the affiliate makes the lions share of a sale.
And just like there area only a handful of affiliates who can really send sales...there are only a handful of sites that really can be sold to the surfer. You match up a thoughtful, hardworking affiliate who owns their own site and sends golden traffic to a paysite that has a great selling niche and is well thought out and interactive with exclusive and unique content...and it's gold. It's a lot harder to sell some of the mega-sites with their purchased content these days. It's all over the tubes and torrents and doesn't really offer much of an experience in the members area. It can still be done. But the real money is that handful of affiliates and that handful of paysites. And really, that's the way it's always been. Even when all the "affiliates" that really aren't in my opinion were making what they thought was good money. It was never even close to what real good money is. But a lot of guys hopped in and discovered that they might could make a grand a week signing up for affiliate programs and basically throwing stuff against a wall to see if it sticks. The tubes and torrents have changed that. It just doesn't work anymore. That's why the guys with freesites that have been around for years and run clean and develop trust with surfers still make the sales and always will. |
Damn, let's quit being all serious and shit...back to the thread topic. We are all losers. There can be only one. And that one is pussyserver baby! A pimp of all pimps and my main man. Don't be haters. pussyserver is the true :pimp
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Nonetheless, I think it's a great time to be an affiliate and would recommend it to anyone. I honestly don't see why so many people jump into the program game when they have no traffic lined up at all. It's sad to see people putting all their money and time into building an affiliate program, then be relegated to begging affiliates on a message board for a few clicks. I also think the jump from everyong being an affiliate to everyone being a program owner is the reason you don't have a lot of good affiliates out there anymore. |
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I love my haters, stalkers and the like Robbie it amazes me that you consistently put yourself in the same category as the broke trolls on GFY. Why do you follow me around posting irrelevant nonsense? I don’t even know you fella… get a grip man.... no time to be a hater just get better at life ok? |
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and also the reason why there are so many shitty programs:2 cents: |
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No it's not black and white but both sides in this argument conveniently leave out information to make their side look better. 90% of your type in and se signups are probably related to what an affiliate did at some point in your sites life. :2 cents: |
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I'm not so sure that the days of amateur surfers suddenly becoming affiliates and making bank are still here. I honestly think that the guys who have been in this game a long time are the ones who have built up the trust factor with the surfer. I've made my living by that philosophy for 10 years now. And now to my main man pussyserver. Bro! I'm not a hater anymore! I'm your biggest fan! Now that BlackWidow guy? He seems to have you in his crosshairs. But not me. I now enjoy your posts for exactly what they are. Even when you called me disrespectful names earlier in this thread. I took it with a grain of salt. :) pussyserver: THE MAN! Hell yes! |
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On the other hand...the really good sites out there who go after a specific niche and/or feature a solo girl who fulfills a niche don't neccessarily follow that blueprint. Always an exception to the rule. |
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Someone earlier said I need a sponsor to send traffic to. I can tell you I'd much rather be stuck with traffic than a paysite and no affiliates. I could try to sell them cookies if it came down to it. Obviously I would look for something to sell if it meant downloading porn from aol and burning it onto a CD. :1orglaugh |
That's the truth EmpireAutoPilot :)
But sometimes you don't even need traffic if your niche is hot and very focused. Look at tony404 Mandy Blakes' site is very successful. He doesn't even have an affiliate program...though he does invite a handful of people to promote her. He doesn't really need affiliates. He has the product. BBW lovers WILL find what they like. Sometimes I wonder if it's a little like searching on Ebay for something. They seem to find Mandy Blake no matter what. Same thing with big tits. Claudia-Marie had a thousand members in the first couple of months we opened the doors last year. And she wasn't in the adult business in any way at all until we did that. Not even as a dancer. The afficiandos of these niches search high and low for what they like. We acheived success right out of the door by me sending a little traffic and then literally word of mouth spreading over big tit forums and chat rooms almost overnight. Now if you open a paysite with a bunch of content you bought feauturing the porn valley girls getting fucked by the porn valley guys, it's gonna be a lot tougher sale. There can be a niche there but not a specific focused thing. In that case it better be a great idea and theme and you better have a LOT of really good affiliates sending traffic. |
Hey by the way empire...you have some problems on your site. The includes aren't coming up.
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