Great Promo Tools and Great Stats

Not always but 10% is a slap in the face. It would be much lighter of a slap if your customer was tied to you forever but they are not. You and I both no that if I send someone to ahahhamystuff.yourcamsite.com that they are going to return to yourcamsite.com for future purchases.

It's fine if you want to pay 10%. It's fine if you want to have your webmasters "lose" their traffic when they come back to the main site. To do both at the same time while griping about other programs that pay more and let you keep your customer should embarrass you.

You can solve this problem by putting the co-brand on your own domain. Its not 100% but better then sending direct to the co-brand

It's just annoying to read this from a sponsor. I mean it's not like programs aren't notorious for toying with ways to make as much money for themselves as possible from webmaster traffic and this is understood by pretty much anyone that matters. When you combine a 10% (is this 1998 candle affiliates?) with a non linked customer you get lol / wtf.

I hear you brother.

I have with the co-branded tool, another function of AWE 30% and good results
For this reason i urged AWE to put also this tool on 30%, i see no reason why a nice addition on tools like this system should costs me as affiliates a huge %

The life time revenue, yeah since day one i work with good life time payers, and when sending for more then 1 month a lower ammount of traffic not hurts me much, it even sometimes brings me more in some cases. Life Time Revenue has with the experienced webmaster another meaning then what AWE means with Life Time Revenue.

Anyway, i see this thread becomes somewhat unfocused, and i did my saying. So i rest my case for now. But again, do not use the term LIFE TIME REVENUE in this concept. If it was LIFETIME, i would for sure consider it using, but only when it starts with minimal 20% for sure, as SEO traffic manager/website builder i have to INVEST way to much time to bring good clicks to it, and the income is important to keep live cam pushers like me and others motivated.

So in my situation, even when i make 1000`s of dollars with competition life time revenue cam sites, i would need a huge load of positive energzy before sending to AWE.

Despite they have good intentions with this, i stick with the other tools.

Let the rest feel free to try it out and go ahead. I have no opinion about this, everyone his own business. Everyone his own traffic, etc etc etc etc

Well I don't really care about the whitelabel, just wishing they'd pay lifetime on their regular program instead of their 14 day cookie... :disgust

lol we do a better job to keep this thread up then the hired sig whores.

Maybe we can get 21 days revshare soon!!!

i think everyone understands the basic concept of "up to 20%" :winkwink:

Very nice stats

We are happy to accomodate affiliates that show an interest in promoting our products.
The options are WIDE open to anyone to test us against others and see how we measure up.

wowza nice ;)

I guarantee you they don't ;)

It's not a question if you convert, it's a question about getting more than 2 weeks worth of the customers really :)
I'm really interested in promoting your products, can you give me 365 day cookie? :pimp

What do you think about being better treaded then a waiter, and get a fair share of the pie.

it all depends on the product obviously, its insane to think you can just think up a % in your head and base everything on that. Would you rather make 90% of $100 or 10% of $1000 ?

Let us have in this bizz a load of comparison material to not just say stupid nr's

My post was not only in reference to whether we convert or not but also to whether we earn you more or not. If you earn more with AWE stay with us, If you don't, get in touch with us and we'll help optimize your campaigns/try a different approach. If you're still not earning more stick to sponsor B.
It's very simple. Stick with the one that earns you the most.

Depends, do I get 90% of $100 and the customer for life? Is the 10% of $1000 only for 2 weeks?

It's really easy to figure out. Your argument would work if all things were equal between cam sites. That 2 week cookie kind of makes that not so.

OK, I have another one for you since both you and Smokey brought this up.

My customer, the one I busted my ass to make sure he visits my website daily has $2000 in income that he spends on porn per year. He is not going to spend a penny more than that no matter what I offer him, that is his limit.

I send it to camsite a and get 30% of all the money he spends for life.

I send to camsite b and get 30% of the money he spends for 2 weeks.

Now I've turned this customer on to one of these websites and he is addicted. He's going to blow through his entire $2000 cause dammit he loves cams.

With camsite a, I get the respect and compensation I deserve for not only sending that customer to the website but making sure he was horny enough to join and spend money. Each and every time he spends money they thank me for referring him by sending me a cut.

With camsite b, I get 30% of what he spends for 2 weeks. Unless he blows $2000 in 2 weeks this program will continue to profit on my hard work for years and years.

I know there are a lot of variables and you can say "but we sell them more!" all day. Even if you are correct that you do sell them more you are taking all of his disposable income and giving me a much smaller amount of it. Now that customer is no longer joining other paysites from my links because he is a tapped out cam addict looking for his next Euro girl in a studio to chat with. When he finds her I'd sure like to get a cut.

you would get fired for taking too long too answer the question :winkwink:

but seriously , i think you are missing the overall concept.

if salesman #1 is selling ipods for $200 and salesman #2 is selling ipods for $100 , how can you expect them to pay the salesman the same %, they are using 2 totally different methods of promotion. and thats just if the product was the same, with cams the product also counts as well as countless other facts , thats why at the end of the day/year what matters is the $ in your pocket. If you dont like the pitch , dont use the product, but if you write something off based on a silly concept like x% > x% it would be just as silly as switching all your links to some new cam sponsor because they were paying 99% revshare , what if that sponsor was charging 10k per signup and had 2 lesbian albino's working the cams ? factor everything in , if it doesnt sit right dont test.

I did, it doesn't. ;)

you are blowing smoke up your own ass :) it's 2 diff methods, plain and simple.

are all pps sponsors who dont pay as much as whomever pays the highest amount disrespecting and undercompensating their affiliates ?

why shouldnt they all pay 99$ pps like joesponsor does ?

well then you know you're traffic does better with a diff sponsor, go figure , happens milllions of times per day , i like coke my neighbour likes pepsi, the pepsi dealership could be offering the pepsi salesman 90% revshare but the coke salesman will make the 10% sale, the pepsi guy will make 90% of nothing :) and vice versa for my neighbour.

you are a pepsi saleman trying to sell coke to pepsi lovers. let the people with coke fans make a mint while you make a mint selling pepsi to pepsi fans , everyone wins :)

Ah come on, the coke salesman puts his coke in your store forever but only pays you on 2 weeks of sales.

good stuff Mickey, our team is looking forward to working with you :thumbsup

I'd love to use the cobrand, but there is no way I'll move over all of my cam traffic for 10% vs the 35% lifetime revshare I'm earning now.

Cut the hype salesboi.

Lifetime = lifetime. Every time a surfer I refered to you makes a purchase with you, anywhere, anytime, anyhow, for EVER I get a share. That's lifetime.

I don't need you to give me lifetime on my own wl and then act all surprised when you get called on it, and pretend like you don't get it.

In between your %, the above tenuous interpretation of "lifetime" and your 30second cookies... heh.

Carry on.

30 second cookies, are you serious?

she was sarcastic :)

-sigh- ....

u guys approve apps or...?

EmpireAutoPilot,

I have no idea how you ended up at the 14 day cookie option since that does not apply in the case of co-brands. All sales generated on your co-brand will earn you a commission, up to 20%, regardless of whether the customer has cookies enabled, etc.

HOWEVER i will respect your right to steer completely offtopic and will try and shed light on some of the reasons why the 14 day cookie system can and does work in favor of the affiliates.

Affiliates frequently complain about the conversion ratios they have with other live cam affiliate programs that offer lifetime revenue sharing.

In the case of the old revshare program with AWE, after 14 days the cookies expire and the customer is released.

Affiliates get a fair chance at converting that member again.

"but but...that was my customer..." may seem like a reasonable argument.

Not so fast, the same way you "lost" that customer, another affiliate "lost" one as well. You now have the chance to convert other affiliates' released members and vice versa.

Not only that, but the cycle helped eliminate/postpone the dreaded market saturation/oversaturation where a product has had so much exposure on said market that conversion ratios worsen and affiliates have a hard time converting any visitors at all.

Now with all that being said

1. Some of our top affiliates are in fact using the 14 day cookie system and are doing VERY well. Our most successful affiliates will keep it to themselves. Why? It's business. The less competition, the better.

Quote:

I don't like the cookie system but it earns me more than any of the other live cam programs i've tried

That one quote sums up the entire conversation. If it earns you more the decision is up to you - if you're in the industry to maximize your profits, chances are very high you'll stick with the program that earns you the most.

30% REVSHARE for 14 days

2. Lifetime payouts? Sure, promote your co-brand with the option to earn up to 20% on all purchases generated through your co-branded live cam site.

The percentage argument is completely pointless if you ignore one important part of the equation: the gross amount a customer will spend on said site.
-Is a customer more likely to spend on a site with 2,000+ live feeds online or on a site with 40 models online?
-Is a potential customer more likely to convert on a site that adds alternative payment methods on a constant basis to enable affiliates to convert traffic from as many countries as possible or on a site that offers credit card payments only
-I could go on because i eat, drink and sleep this - and so does the rest of our team

UP TO 20% REVSHARE - LIFETIME
(have the traffic volume it takes to arrive at a custom agreement? Feel free to contact me and we'll do our best to find a way to work together)

"Why is AWE so damn popular?" - asks my signature in bright yellow. Click it and you will notice you're not the only one wondering "how could they earn me more, they don't go by 'conventional rules', I want my safe conventional rules and a good looking percentage to look at, both are accepted by the community and that's that. No. Try them all and stick to the one that earns you the most.

It is NOT all black and white (regardless of what marketing campaigns sometimes want you to believe). Be open minded, some of our top affiliates were when they decided to stick to promoting AWE and are now glad that they did.

I am now out for the week, if anyone has any questions regarding the promotion of AWE and its products feel free to contact any of us, we're easy to reach (see first post for contact info).

Any serious business minded affiliates are welcome to contact any of us

Have a great weekend!

so if i visit your cam sponsor thru your ref url , then come back later that day and signup thru the sponsors branded url you will get a cut ? doubtfull. Thats not anywhere , anytime, anyhow, so cut the b.s. different strokes for different folks.

with awe as long as the surfer keeps coming thru your whitelabel site you will get LIFETIME, pretty easy to figure out , are there ways around it ? yes tons , just like with any sponsor.


yes carry on after you make a boldfaced lie. I realise you were just being a smartass but you do realise others actually believe the b.s. I dont think you would appreciate the same treatment. i.e. insinuating awe uses 30 sec cookies when you know full well they do not.

one big difference alot of people neglect to mention is quality and quantity.

heres awe compared to a few others.

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free live cam feeds neoncams.com

total live models 28

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free live cam feeds wildorchidz.com

Girl ( 74 )
Couples( 4 )
Boys ( 3 )

feeds for members only:

Girls: 0/ (2) Couples: 0/ (1)

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free live cam feeds awe

Girl ( 472 )
Couples( 29 )
Boys ( 53 )

LOL you compare them to those. You lost my respect right there.

It's like comparing you to ...., ..., ....., (read any sig whore) lol

With all the tube sites sending to camsponsors it would dry out pretty soon on lifetime not? Cause hey they got tons of traffic and if that traffic ever visits your site and spends some on a camsite you would never see a penny cause of the lifetime revshare.

Not saying I totally agree with the 2 week thingy BUT (big but) it also has it's pros.

Besides that we see lots of people still buying at AWE way after the 2 week period. They come back through our site to spend. Offer them something good and they will come back and you will get paid again :2 cents:

If above doesn;t make sense than please move on, it is early for me.

Lots of confusion in this thread (like normal)


QUESTION:

If I send a customer to AWE, will I get credit for them AFTER 14 days if they DID NOT go through someone elses referral link during that time?


Meaning the member signed up through my link, went to Livejasmin and purchase time for each of the following 14 days. Then on the 15th day of purchasing, credit for the member is no longer applied to my account for that member if they did not continue to arrive to Livejasmin DIRECTLY through my referral link code, even though the surfer never went through a different affiliate link?




Correct?

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