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EmpireAutopilot 08-30-2008 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chio (Post 14684050)
My five year old daughter. What is happening to this once great nation?

You mean all those women on the PUMA forums telling me she had more experience than Obama were lying? :1orglaugh

spunkmaster 08-30-2008 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 14684737)
You're kidding me right?

Governing in Alaska for 2 years is NOT enough experience to run a fucking country. This chic has NO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE. An argument can not even be made! A case for foreign policy experience can not even be made! Is this who you want staring down Iran if something was to happen to McCain?

Not to mention her executive experience was in fucking Alaska. Her experience on handling and fighting crime probably amounts to illegal fishing.

This is fucking retarded. Nobody can spin this into a positive thing. You Repubs can try all you want. Not happening.




Are you retarded ?

You're trying to run a VP against a President on qualifications ?

Obama has zero foreign policy experience, zero experience approving budgets, zero experience at the federal level except for 6 months until he started running for president.

Obama has zero chance and you lefties who think he does are stroking yourselves.

Biden was a dumb ass pick just like Edwards was. Neither brought anything to the ticket and would be weak Presidents.

I'm not a McCain fan and I'm not in the GOP so I don't want to hear any dumb ass attacks about them.

There was a poll out just yesterday that showed 60% of the public identified as conservative and this is a huge disaster for Obama.

Obama will get his ass kicked bad so prepare for the loss now people !

GatorB 08-30-2008 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spunkmaster (Post 14686213)
Are you retarded ?

You're trying to run a VP against a President on qualifications ?

Considering McCain is 72 and has cancer yeah I think it's fair comparison. 50% chance McCain doesn't finish his first term. I'll bet $1000 on that right now.

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Obama has zero foreign policy experience
Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Kennedy had none also. Bush I, Nixon, LBJ and Ike did. How'd that work out for us? I count 3 fucking wars among those 4 guys.

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Biden was a dumb ass pick just like Edwards was. Neither brought anything to the ticket and would be weak Presidents.
What does this whore bring to the table and how do you have any clue to how good a president she would be?

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There was a poll out just yesterday that showed 60% of the public identified as conservative and this is a huge disaster for Obama.

Obama will get his ass kicked bad so prepare for the loss now people !
You=retard. Do you even have a clue as to how elections work? what is "ass kicked" By votes. Sorry elections aren't determined by popular vote 2000 should have taught you that. Otherwise Gore would have been president.

I can't see Obama getting less than 250 electoral votes which I would hardly call and "ass kicking"

MrPinks 08-30-2008 06:09 AM

It's really fucking scary that every four years we have to worry about who's the next idiot to come along. Americans should demand more from their candidates and there should be some kind of competency or IQ test. This is absolutely redicuolus to have this right wing extremist, zero experinece female governor, who only met McCain twice, one step from running this country.

Palin is imply a pawn for two reasons: Her connection to big oil and to capture female votes. The funny things is, I doubt she is even knows she is being used as a pawn.

I wasn't sure if Bush was right for this country at the beginning of his first term, but I am sure that McCain is NOT right for this country, which is at a very critical stage.

Try to turn around the facts all you want and say Obama has zero experience but the man is a leader and highly intelligent. I feel confident that I will not have to question his judgement every single day for the next 4-8 years.

Zorgman 08-30-2008 06:23 AM

So if he dropped dead after elected, does she become to president ?

MrPinks 08-30-2008 06:41 AM

:helpme:helpme:helpmeYes
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Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 14686884)
So if he dropped dead after elected, does she become to president ?


TheDoc 08-30-2008 06:54 AM

And Nancy Polocy would become VP.......

Sausage 08-30-2008 07:07 AM

So if Obama drops dead, you get some really old white guy as president. ;)

notoldschool 08-30-2008 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14686965)
So if Obama drops dead, you get some really old white guy as president. ;)

Yeah, and that old man has more experience making shit happen than Mccain and the bimbo will ever have even if they win the election.

baddog 08-30-2008 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPinks (Post 14686868)
Palin is imply a pawn for two reasons: Her connection to big oil

What connection would that be?

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14686921)
And Nancy Polocy would become VP.......

How did you come up with that? Is she good friends with Palin or something?

For those that think TheDoc is correct, he isn't.

notoldschool 08-30-2008 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14687282)
What connection would that be?



Most likely reffering to her husband working for BP but im sure you knew that.

baddog 08-30-2008 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14687303)
Most likely reffering to her husband working for BP but im sure you knew that.

Isn't he just a field worker for them?

stickyfingerz 08-30-2008 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio (Post 14685640)
Yeah, but if he had picked a certain governor named Jeb, I bet republicrooks would be jumping up and clicking their heels together. "YEEEHAAWW...WE GOING BACK TO DA BIG HOUSE BOYS...WOOOOHOOOO!!!" *high fives all around* "Aaight....let's eat!"

Apparently I need a large blinking neon sign that says SARCASM on it..

Rochard 08-30-2008 09:16 AM

I think we need someone who has never worked in government before really.

Think about it. They pass a bill about protecting children, and buried in this bill is money for a bridge in Florida and an off ramp on a freeway in Texas. This kind of shit needs to stop.

I really believe that once you get elected to Congress / Senate / White House you leave your party behind and work for the common good. Not vote one way because your party tells you to.

tony286 08-30-2008 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by spunkmaster (Post 14686213)
Are you retarded ?

You're trying to run a VP against a President on qualifications ?

Obama has zero foreign policy experience, zero experience approving budgets, zero experience at the federal level except for 6 months until he started running for president.

Obama has zero chance and you lefties who think he does are stroking yourselves.

Biden was a dumb ass pick just like Edwards was. Neither brought anything to the ticket and would be weak Presidents.

I'm not a McCain fan and I'm not in the GOP so I don't want to hear any dumb ass attacks about them.

There was a poll out just yesterday that showed 60% of the public identified as conservative and this is a huge disaster for Obama.

Obama will get his ass kicked bad so prepare for the loss now people !

It makes me fucking crazy when people said he did nothing in the senate. I know immediately they just saying right wing talking points.
Here are the facts: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400629

Also for the 130 present votes while in the state gov, he also voted over 4000 times in total.

Also Mccain is an old man so its very fucking important who is vp is.

tony286 08-30-2008 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 14687379)
I think we need someone who has never worked in government before really.

Think about it. They pass a bill about protecting children, and buried in this bill is money for a bridge in Florida and an off ramp on a freeway in Texas. This kind of shit needs to stop.

I really believe that once you get elected to Congress / Senate / White House you leave your party behind and work for the common good. Not vote one way because your party tells you to.

They win start thinking about what country you want to live in because if you want to work in adult the usa wont be for you. Mark my words, she is extreme and bush has set all the groundwork for them to step on the adult industry hard.

TheDoc 08-30-2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14687282)
For those that think TheDoc is correct, he isn't.

Hahaha, Baddog trying to point out my wrong doings. Well, other than I spelled her name wrong, I guess you got me on that.

The Speaker of the House of Representatives becomes VP if the President dies. The current Speaker of the House is, Nancy Pelosi. So as it stands, Nancy Pelosi would become VP.

baddog 08-30-2008 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14687523)
Hahaha, Baddog trying to point out my wrong doings. Well, other than I spelled her name wrong, I guess you got me on that.

The Speaker of the House of Representatives becomes VP if the President dies. The current Speaker of the House is, Nancy Pelosi. So as it stands, Nancy Pelosi would become VP.

I knew you were going to think I was calling you on your spelling, but that is not it at all.

If the President dies, the VP becomes Pres, but the Speaker does not become VP. The Speaker becomes President if both the President and VP die, otherwise, the new President appoints a new VP.

TheDoc 08-30-2008 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14687560)
I knew you were going to think I was calling you on your spelling, but that is not it at all.

If the President dies, the VP becomes Pres, but the Speaker does not become VP. The Speaker becomes President if both the President and VP die, otherwise, the new President appoints a new VP.

The New President could leave the slot empty, or we need a majority vote of both Houses of Congress. Even the idea that Nancy could some how, in some far reach of away become President even today, is scary.

MrPinks 08-30-2008 10:38 AM

I have to agree with Tony. It drives me up a wall to think that adult webmasters in the US can actually support the republicans. Do you really care about this business? Will you give a shit if adult ceases to exist within the US? Is this just a fucking hobby to you or do you have a backup plan? Unfuckingbelievable! And to all those who would vote for her because she is a MILF, I really wish you had higher standards in choosing our leaders.

Here's a nice little article on how giddy the evangelicals are:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...M&SECTION=HOME

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14687407)
They win start thinking about what country you want to live in because if you want to work in adult the usa wont be for you. Mark my words, she is extreme and bush has set all the groundwork for them to step on the adult industry hard.


jonesy 08-30-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14687282)
What connection would that be?



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former chairman of Alaska Oil and gas Conservation Commission

The State of Alaska and other interested parties are engaged in determining how best to bring North Slope gas to market. The Alaska Oil and gas Conservation Commission ("AOGCC") has a very important role in this process ? to protect the public?s interest by preventing waste and insuring greater ultimate recovery of both oil and gas. To fulfill this role, the AOGCC will decide what gas offtake rates should be allowed from Prudhoe Bay and other North Slope oilfields. Considering only the laws of science, these decisions are very simple; to prevent waste and insure a greater ultimate hydrocarbon recovery, produce all of the commercially recoverable oil in a reservoir first, and then ?blow down? its gas cap. The AOGCC recognizes, however, that many other factors will ? and should ? be considered in exercising its regulatory powers.

MrPinks 08-30-2008 10:46 AM

Also, Alaska itself and ANWR. She's the key to the state and this will make her hubby a rich man. It's all about oil.
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Originally Posted by jonesy (Post 14687616)
former chairman of Alaska Oil and gas Conservation Commission

The State of Alaska and other interested parties are engaged in determining how best to bring North Slope gas to market. The Alaska Oil and gas Conservation Commission ("AOGCC") has a very important role in this process ? to protect the public?s interest by preventing waste and insuring greater ultimate recovery of both oil and gas. To fulfill this role, the AOGCC will decide what gas offtake rates should be allowed from Prudhoe Bay and other North Slope oilfields. Considering only the laws of science, these decisions are very simple; to prevent waste and insure a greater ultimate hydrocarbon recovery, produce all of the commercially recoverable oil in a reservoir first, and then ?blow down? its gas cap. The AOGCC recognizes, however, that many other factors will ? and should ? be considered in exercising its regulatory powers.


baddog 08-30-2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14687590)
The New President could leave the slot empty, or we need a majority vote of both Houses of Congress. Even the idea that Nancy could some how, in some far reach of away become President even today, is scary.

This is having shades of why I discontinued the other discussion with you lat night (apologies if I came off rude).

You do realize that under your scenario Pelosi has the same opportunity to become VP if Obama is elected. Hell, with your scenario she is already there.

I am not sure that the new President could leave the spot empty. You have some reliance you can cite to back up that claim?

MrPinks 08-30-2008 10:57 AM

Got to agree. If the VP becomes pres. then he (hopefully not she) will choose their own VP. At least that is what I believe.
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14687638)
This is having shades of why I discontinued the other discussion with you lat night (apologies if I came off rude).

You do realize that under your scenario Pelosi has the same opportunity to become VP if Obama is elected. Hell, with your scenario she is already there.

I am not sure that the new President could leave the spot empty. You have some reliance you can cite to back up that claim?


selena 08-30-2008 11:30 AM



This makes me weep in my lifelong republican cheerios.

Pass the koolaid, please.

SoloGirlsContent 08-30-2008 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by selena (Post 14687773)


This makes me weep in my lifelong republican cheerios.

Pass the koolaid, please.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
what a dumb bitch..Thank you McCain

baddog 08-30-2008 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by selena (Post 14687773)


This makes me weep in my lifelong republican cheerios.

Pass the koolaid, please.

At least now it will be a contest. Not sure if there will be any winners.

TheDoc 08-30-2008 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14687638)
This is having shades of why I discontinued the other discussion with you lat night (apologies if I came off rude).

You do realize that under your scenario Pelosi has the same opportunity to become VP if Obama is elected. Hell, with your scenario she is already there.

I am not sure that the new President could leave the spot empty. You have some reliance you can cite to back up that claim?

I was more pointing to the factor of possible two Women in the seats of power, and one being her :)


Several Presidents have left the VP seat empty, after VP deaths and other things, just not normally for an entire term. I don't know if any or how long it was open, after a VP took President power, my memory isn't that good.

baddog 08-30-2008 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14687873)
I was more pointing to the factor of possible two Women in the seats of power, and one being her :)

Isn't that being sexist?

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Several Presidents have left the VP seat empty, after VP deaths and other things, just not normally for an entire term. I don't know if any or how long it was open, after a VP took President power, my memory isn't that good.
No examples? Only example I can think of is Agnew's resignation but he was promptly replaced by Ford. I am pretty sure the law requires an appointment if the VP dies or steps down.

edit: Okay, when LBJ assumed office after Kennedy was killed he did not fill that vacancy. Will have to see how long that lasted.

fatfoo 08-30-2008 12:12 PM

yeah, that's not good...

TheDoc 08-30-2008 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14687892)
Isn't that being sexist?



No examples? Only example I can think of is Agnew's resignation but he was promptly replaced by Ford. I am pretty sure the law requires an appointment if the VP dies or steps down.

edit: Okay, when LBJ assumed office after Kennedy was killed he did not fill that vacancy. Will have to see how long that lasted.

I am logically sexist, yes - doesn't mean I don't think a women can't do the job, but having two women, for sure when one has no experience at running anything but the pta and the other is a total nut cast, I'm not being sexiest - I'm being logical.


From: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...residency.html

25th Amendment: Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

When Lyndon B. Johnson became president after the assassination of John F. Kennedy, the position of vice president remained vacant for the remainder of his term. Had Johnson left office during that time, House Speaker John W. McCormack of Massachusetts would have been next in line to take his place as president. After Johnson won the 1964 election, his running mate, Hubert H. Humphrey, became vice president. A few years later, in Feb. 1967, the 25th amendment was ratified.

Vice President Spiro Agnew stepped down and was convicted of corruption charges after pleading "no contest." President Richard Nixon then appointed House Republican Leader Gerald Ford as vice president. When Nixon resigned and Ford became president, Ford named former New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller as his vice president.

baddog 08-30-2008 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14687933)
I am logically sexist, yes - doesn't mean I don't think a women can't do the job, but having two women, for sure when one has no experience at running anything but the pta and the other is a total nut cast, I'm not being sexiest - I'm being logical.

You are not really being logical. There is very little chance that a Republican VP that inherited the office of pres because of death (or any other reason) would pick the Democrat Speaker of the House. :2 cents:

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From: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...residency.html

25th Amendment: Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

When Lyndon B. Johnson became president after the assassination of John F. Kennedy, the position of vice president remained vacant for the remainder of his term. Had Johnson left office during that time, House Speaker John W. McCormack of Massachusetts would have been next in line to take his place as president. After Johnson won the 1964 election, his running mate, Hubert H. Humphrey, became vice president. A few years later, in Feb. 1967, the 25th amendment was ratified.

Vice President Spiro Agnew stepped down and was convicted of corruption charges after pleading "no contest." President Richard Nixon then appointed House Republican Leader Gerald Ford as vice president. When Nixon resigned and Ford became president, Ford named former New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller as his vice president.
Didn't I already cite those two examples?

TheDoc 08-30-2008 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14687949)
You are not really being logical. There is very little chance that a Republican VP that inherited the office of pres because of death (or any other reason) would pick the Democrat Speaker of the House. :2 cents:



Didn't I already cite those two examples?

Oh yes, not at all logical since the chain of command, is written in a way that she could get that power. And the President isn't the one that puts them into power, the Dem's that are in power could vote her in. Now, does that really sound like it's that far of a reach? I could see them being either stupid or retarded enough to do just that.


Did you ask me the question, post the answer, and ask me for the source?

baddog 08-30-2008 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14687980)
Oh yes, not at all logical since the chain of command, is written in a way that she could get that power. And the President isn't the one that puts them into power, the Dem's that are in power could vote her in. Now, does that really sound like it's that far of a reach? I could see them being either stupid or retarded enough to do just that.


Did you ask me the question, post the answer, and ask me for the source?

No, Congress can not vote her in if the President doesn't nominate her, and I am saying it is not logical to think a Republican president is going to nominate a Democrat [unless there was some major National scandal that resulted in impeachment, then maybe].

And you said there were many examples. I guess I was hoping you could provide more than the one I already provided.


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