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CyberHustler 09-01-2008 04:52 PM

One day I farted and it smelled like olive oil... :2 cents:

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-01-2008 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Clark (Post 14695413)
I am not a designer, I own a design company...

My clients do not need to be called out to defend me... People in the know already know, and people that think they know actually know very little..

My bro card has been stamped by the original bros..

I am made man in this industry..!

If you feel the need to bring up the fact that you're gaining tons of business from drama threads calling you out, then maybe you should backup what you're saying, or shut your trap... :2 cents:

candyflip 09-01-2008 04:53 PM

Why don't you just ask Sarah if you're so concerned. We had a barter agreement for a month, I left it up there for 2. I'm sure if I put it back, she would be more than thankful.

Your time is probably better spent reading a Photoshop tutorial or 200.

http://www.good-tutorials.com

Malicious Biz 09-01-2008 04:55 PM

give this man his money back you two-bit shyster.

dropped9 09-01-2008 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 14695435)
Why don't you just ask Sarah if you're so concerned. We had a barter agreement for a month, I left it up there for 2. I'm sure if I put it back, she would be more than thankful.

Your time is probably better spent reading a Photoshop tutorial or 200.

http://www.good-tutorials.com

LOLOL says the thief... Do you think your word is any good?

hahahaha

LadyMischief 09-01-2008 05:00 PM

Honest opinion, my kids could do better design with MS paint. He's never had "good" designs. It's always been first-level crap.

Fatbat 09-01-2008 05:01 PM

You do get what you pay for when it comes to design (and everything else in life). The complaint earlier, that the good designers charge more when they realize they can make more, says it all. Good designers cost more, end of story.

Just because you continuously sucker kids out of art school, or third party off shore hacks, doesn't mean you are getting a good deal. It just means you are cheap.

You are saying you want great designs to grab your customer's attention, to convert them, to make you more money... but you don't want to spend good money on good designers...

It takes money to make money. Spend the money to make a GREAT product, not a mediocre one and you will make more in the long run.

aico 09-01-2008 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14695219)
Blah blah you're a baller you spend $10000 on a design wicked man!!

Is that what you wanted to hear?

Because I've paid way less than $70 for logos that were way better and made me tons of money (yes, just the logo). Unfortunately these people quickly realize they can make more charging more and they disappear after a few projects and I'm off to find another designer.

The fact that you pay more means that you're getting ripped off/getting suckered because you can get the work for less.

I didn't want my money back, he did the work, he just did a shitty job. To me my 'research' is actually seeing what people can do, not just talking about it.

Wow, insecure much?

Those logos are worth $70, get over it.

Fatbat 09-01-2008 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 14695458)
Those logos are worth $70, get over it.

Exactly.

candyflip 09-01-2008 05:03 PM

Call my a thief all you want. Like I've said before, it doesn't bother me or hurt my business in any way. You and Jon like to cling to that one, but in the end it doesn't change the fact that you are a big fat piece of shit who couldn't design his way out of a wet paper bag. :winkwink:

Anyone that hires either of you should have their head examined. I know I should have before sending you a dime tubbo.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-01-2008 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retox Josh (Post 14695434)
If you feel the need to bring up the fact that you're gaining tons of business from drama threads calling you out, then maybe you should backup what you're saying, or shut your trap... :2 cents:


lmao.. So I should have my customers get involved with this nonsense...? lmao



Look here... http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/851974-affordable-site-design-hiring-designers-post14695046.html

I have to hire more designers do to the exposure I have had on me lately from the lame drama that means nothing...

dropped9 09-01-2008 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 14695464)
Call my a thief all you want. Like I've said before, it doesn't bother me or hurt my business in any way. You and Jon like to cling to that one, but in the end it doesn't change the fact that you are a big fat piece of shit who couldn't design his way out of a wet paper bag. :winkwink:

Anyone that hires either of you should have their head examined. I know I should have before sending you a dime tubbo.

Thief....

Malicious Biz 09-01-2008 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 14695458)

Those logos are worth $70, get over it.

No, they aren't. Anyone with slightly better than basic knowledge of photoshop could create them in a matter of minutes.

Fatbat 09-01-2008 05:13 PM

I charge $150 / ?100 an hour for my design time, so they represent less than a half an hour's worth of work for me, which is about right. Would probably take less than a half an hour to browse fonts and make up a sheet of logos like that.

moeloubani 09-01-2008 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatbat (Post 14695457)
You do get what you pay for when it comes to design (and everything else in life). The complaint earlier, that the good designers charge more when they realize they can make more, says it all. Good designers cost more, end of story.

Just because you continuously sucker kids out of art school, or third party off shore hacks, doesn't mean you are getting a good deal. It just means you are cheap.

You are saying you want great designs to grab your customer's attention, to convert them, to make you more money... but you don't want to spend good money on good designers...

It takes money to make money. Spend the money to make a GREAT product, not a mediocre one and you will make more in the long run.

I'm cheap? Why, because I try to find a way to pay less than what something is worth for things? I get the same end result for less money, so that means I'm cheap?

Well fuck me, I couldn't care less how 'cheap' you guys think I am. It's more money in my pocket. Call me cheap, call me greedy but I'll always pay less for the same product when I can. To me it's always just been common sense.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-01-2008 05:18 PM

This thread delivered....

































That best backfire in the history of gfy...

CyberHustler 09-01-2008 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 14695464)
Call my a thief all you want. Like I've said before, it doesn't bother me or hurt my business in any way. You and Jon like to cling to that one, but in the end it doesn't change the fact that you are a big fat piece of shit who couldn't design his way out of a wet paper bag. :winkwink:

Anyone that hires either of you should have their head examined. I know I should have before sending you a dime tubbo.

Yo gabba gabba is the shit!

moeloubani 09-01-2008 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Clark (Post 14695466)
lmao.. So I should have my customers get involved with this nonsense...? lmao



Look here... http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/851974-affordable-site-design-hiring-designers-post14695046.html

I have to hire more designers do to the exposure I have had on me lately from the lame drama that means nothing...

lol making a thread doesn't make it happen

But to be fair, even though Jon is a fucking horrible designer, he was a nice guy throughout. Obviously if you come to GFY and you're too nice people go crazy about it, but one on one, he is a nice guy. That being said, on the board he is a fucking douche and that is why I started this thread. And he's a bad designer :Oh crap

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-01-2008 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14695518)
lol making a thread doesn't make it happen

But to be fair, even though Jon is a fucking horrible designer, he was a nice guy throughout. Obviously if you come to GFY and you're too nice people go crazy about it, but one on one, he is a nice guy. That being said, on the board he is a fucking douche and that is why I started this thread. And he's a bad designer :Oh crap

Thanks for being honest.. :thumbsup

Fatbat 09-01-2008 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14695500)
I get the same end result for less money...

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14695500)
I'll always pay less for the same product when I can.

No you don't, and no you won't.

Look around at the best this (or any) industry has to offer, then take a look at what you've got. You don't have good results, you have mediocrity. The good shit costs money.

However, if you can't tell the difference between the two then I guess it doesn't matter

dropped9 09-01-2008 05:35 PM

100 morons, thiefs, and cheap bastards

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-01-2008 05:42 PM

Go flame me here now... http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/851974-affordable-site-design-hiring-designers.html

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-01-2008 05:42 PM

This thread needs to die soon.. I keep can't handle any more orders and it pisses me off to have to turn shit down...



THREAD CLOSED!

candyflip 09-01-2008 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Clark (Post 14695582)
This thread needs to die soon.. I keep can't handle any more orders and it pisses me off to have to turn shit down...

THREAD CLOSED!

Like we all haven't heard this one before. :1orglaugh

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-01-2008 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 14695602)
Like we all haven't heard this one before. :1orglaugh

Oh, you have definitely heard it before... You used to do a good job at trolling me... Anymore you suck though.. Your material is lame... And you are just simple a fag..!



BTW, there is a thread around with your name on it with some answers you were after dumb fuck!

Nicky 09-01-2008 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retox Josh (Post 14695328)
I want proof. I wan't GFY users with a reg date older then a year, and atleast 1k posts, to come in here and say, they are using you're services, and are satisfied,

I use his services and am satisfied.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-01-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 14695638)
I use his services and am satisfied.

Thanks Nicky, but it was not needed, that guy Josh is just blowing steam out of his ass with out a clue...

aico 09-01-2008 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14695475)
No, they aren't. Anyone with slightly better than basic knowledge of photoshop could create them in a matter of minutes.

Anyone with a slightly basic knowledge of photoshop wouldn't need to buy a $70 Logo :2 cents:.

I can pay a plumber to come fix my drain for $70, but I don't need to, cuz I know how.

You guys crack me up, what in the fuck do you expect for $70??

Graphic design prices are not based on the work alone, they are based on many other factors such as the uses, how many people will be seeing the work, etc etc etc.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-01-2008 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 14695750)
Anyone with a slightly basic knowledge of photoshop wouldn't need to buy a $70 Logo :2 cents:.

I can pay a plumber to come fix my drain for $70, but I don't need to, cuz I know how.

You guys crack me up, what in the fuck do you expect for $70??

Graphic design prices are not based on the work alone, they are based on many other factors such as the uses, how many people will be seeing the work, etc etc etc.

Some people do not get it... It is like the guy that buys shoes at payless and wonders why he goes through three pairs a year versus the guy that spends 100 bucks every two years and gets good shoes...





I provide a great service for the price I provide it for... My company is one of the most reliable design companies in this industry... We never, ever give our clients the run around.. We deliver on time 99 out of 100 and go out of our way to make our clients more then happy..!


:thumbsup

Porn Ass 09-01-2008 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Clark (Post 14695513)
This thread delivered....

That best backfire in the history of gfy...

not even close :upsidedow

from this thread and the tube thread.. i'd personally never do biz with you, but no sweat off your back im sure

Porn Ass 09-01-2008 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 14695421)
She only had it for a month but I left it there for 2 because I had them turned off and forgot about it. On top of that, I still haven't even bothered her for the designs she promised me for running it. S

starting to hear a common theme going on with several people who did the same as you with the sigs and not getting jack shit in return from her

brassmonkey 09-01-2008 07:15 PM

hmm buppin:thumbsup

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-01-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 14695638)
I use his services and am satisfied.

That's One, wheres the others?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Clark (Post 14695692)
Thanks Nicky, but it was not needed, that guy Josh is just blowing steam out of his ass with out a clue...

No, I'm just sick of hearing people say drama threads calling out their services is causing them to blow up and get a rush of customers.. sorry, either they are idiots running to you, or its made up... nobody sees someone say your design services are crap and decides "fucking right, i'll buy this shit!"

YellowDude 09-01-2008 07:30 PM

Its a personal taste, what you like I hate and contrariwise

Yngwie 09-01-2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 14695382)
I've been saying that he's a fly by night wannabe since he first came here trying to resell domain names. He thinks he can get away with providing shitty work because he's "affordable".

You should hire Headless, because you both suck so much ass.

funny how you say that you've been saying that since he first came here.. Let me quote something YOU said in a thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 12191477)
We've chatted a few times and he's ok by me. He's pretty good with drawing attention to himself. Guess we'll see how that plays out for him

this was on this thread http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/720954-personally-jon-clark.html

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-01-2008 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retox Josh (Post 14695901)
That's One, wheres the others?




No, I'm just sick of hearing people say drama threads calling out their services is causing them to blow up and get a rush of customers.. sorry, either they are idiots running to you, or its made up... nobody sees someone say your design services are crap and decides "fucking right, i'll buy this shit!"

It is real simple... Everyone has different likes, wants and needs... I provide solid service... There are many people that like our work and service...

When the attention is on you.. It is also on your service.. If you provide a good service, you will get more business with more eyes on your service...

It is not rocket science people!

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-01-2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 14695924)
funny how you say that you've been saying that since he first came here.. Let me quote something YOU said in a thread



this was on this thread http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/720954-personally-jon-clark.html

We retracted that statement a little while ago actually... Good call though :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


candyflip has proven himself a scammer, lier, thief and twofaced many of times around here.. I found out the hard way myself..!

Young 09-01-2008 08:42 PM

Extremely shitty design.

But then again what would you expect for $70?

I don't do any design/dev work for anybody but myself unless the money calls for it.

$70 wouldn't even get Photoshop/Illustrator open on my computer.

BlockThree 09-01-2008 10:25 PM

You are getting what you are paying for. There is a reason his prices are so low. So i wouldn't complain.

If you want quality, pay for it.

Malicious Biz 09-01-2008 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 14695750)
I can pay a plumber to come fix my drain for $70, but I don't need to, cuz I know how.

Would you pay 70$ for a plumber to come to your house to flush your toilet? because that's basically the level of work those logos are. a plumber flushing a toilet.


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