fiddy concerned webmasters...
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Originally Posted by VIPimp
(Post 15115965)
someone who joins a site then gets a bill for $200+ and all the other crap they will go thru... they definetly will never join a site again.
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Perhaps. If it is the FIRST site they ever join, for fucking sure they will never join another. But if they are regular porn consumers, they will continue to buy porn. It's not different than the Johns who get arrested picking up hookers on the street. Just about every one of them go back and do it again, even though they got burned once or twice before. People smoke knowing it causes cancer, some smoke even after they beat cancer once. People fuck without rubbers knowing they can catch HIV. People drink and drive and some drink and drive after they have been arrested for it before. People just don't learn (or they do learn the extreme hard way), that is our problem. And people with addiction can't stop and that is the case for many porn consumers.
Sure, it all gives the industry a black eye, but it hardly is the industries worst enemy at the moment. It's just easy to blame slagging sales on something so transparent as this and say it's hurting your bottom line, when in reality we have no real proof what it is hurting, if at all. What I do know is I've seen some stats from a couple of companies who aggressively use these x-sales and their rebill numbers were in the 1000s (as in several thousand) per day. Huge numbers. So if it's all so bad, why did so many members stick around? There must be a logical answer and that is more than likely than these consumers did not fall for the "trickery" that everyone says is ruining the industry. So if 5000+ members a day (rebills I'm talking) did not fall for this practice that is killing us all, I have to assume based on the numbers alone that it's not as bad as it may appear on the outside. And keep in mind, these numbers are just from two companies I've seen stats for. There are MANY with these numbers (and higher) that use the same business model. How would you explain this? It is possible I am missing something obvious.
My point is, there is no proof if anything. There are theories and thoughts, that's it. Maybe it's the x-sales, maybe it's the tubes, maybe it's just porn saturation, maybe it's the slow economy, maybe people have just become to desensitized to porn that they have lost interest. Who knows? Nobody does, and that is something we need not forget. Until someone can show me hard proof that any of that (tubes, x-sales and so on) is the reason for slowing sales, I have to have an open mind about it and look at everything objectively. I'm a simple guy but I base much of my life on facts. I need facts in order to make a rational decision. Obviously most of you don't, and that's ok, I do understand we are all programmed different and the is one of the glorious things about being human.
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Originally Posted by VIPimp
(Post 15115965)
Once some affiliates do join some of these sites themselves and end up getting screwed even knowing what not to do, they will definetly not want to send their bookmarkers there.
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Agreed. I think any affiliate who doesn't look at the site he/she is pushing, is leaving the possibilities wide open for many problems. You should be able to sign up to a program, get your account approved (not automatic) and then get a 1 day pass to the site(s) so you can see what you are promoting. Like once they approve your account, you automatically are sent a temp user/pass. THAT would be great.
