It is no surprise considering what a scumbag he was. Very talented songwriter though.

Actually they went toe to toe with the Beach Boys with both trying to upstage the other and pushing the boundaries of pop further and further.
I hesitate to even mention Oasis... It can only be a trolling attempt because it's like saying Creed is better than Pearl Jam. (Not that Pearl Jam were in any way original etc, just that Creed, like Oasis is a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy.)
Don't worry people in the UK know Oasis is a half assed tribute band as well.. It's only a few die hard 90's Oasis fans with monobrows tattooed onto their tasteless faces that think otherwise. You can't help the clueless.

I'll admit that I break out the guitar and play Wonderwall every once and awhile, but yeah...no...they're not as good as the Beatles

Now...The Ramones on the other hand :winkwink:

ahahahaha comparing Oasis to the Beatles - like comparing Rick Astley to Frank Sinatra

i've just been on YouTube going through the Beatles from their start until their end - gives you goose pimples looking at the footage- I was born into Beatlemania, my older sisters had every 45 single, every album, and every piece of Beatle crap imaginable - the Beatles phenomena will NEVER EVER be repeated, it can't be in this day and age, the time and place was a once in forever occurrence. Go look at the footage of their first trip to America - it was pure insanity - you are talking about the Baby Boom generation, the largest bubble of children and teens ever born and every one of them a Beatle maniac, there weren't 50 genres of popular/rock music, there wasn't even FM radio.

i get sick of the Beatles, I'm sure some people in younger generations just out of hand write them off because some people just don't like an older generation telling them that something was the best that came long before them.

As far as the music itself goes, everybody has their own opinion and if somebody 22 years old today prefers Oasis to the Beatles - no surprise there.

As song writers go Lennon and McCartney became freaks of nature - you simply don't write that many songs that will stand the test of time in the relatively short period of time they were together.

ok back to YouTube - I'm watching A Hard Day's Night movie - even the movies they did set trends - look at A Hard Day's Night and Help and Yellow Submarine - those were the very first music videos and you still see their influence in videos made today - almost 20 years before video killed the radio star and MTV was born. No band, no musical artist will ever have the influence on the world that the Beatles did. Can't.

sigmund freud

They will be a footnote at best.

And you've contributed what to the world? Porn traffic from Russia? :1orglaugh

That's... Interesting.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7XTULcETGqk > any beatles song

Absolutely, to Oasis fans. To Elvis' period fans, do you think Beatles songs stand out today? No. In fact most of these fans dislike the Beatles.

I cant believe anyone thinks beatles songs have stood the test of time, the only people who think they are good now are old people who where alive during the 60's, they havent stood the test of time its you who hasnt moved forward with time.

I just look at a few beatles songs and i cant imagine anybody enjoying this shit that isnt old, decrepit and living in the past.

Oasis sucks!

those guys need to quit riding Beatle's coattails. Gimme a break. :1orglaugh

this does put a new spin on his music though...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vTkc1aKAVYY

Mother, you had me but I never had you,
I wanted you but you didn't want me,
So I got to tell you,
Goodbye, goodbye.
Farther, you left me but I never left you,
I needed you but you didn't need me,
So I got to tell you,
Goodbye, goodbye.
Children, don't do what I have done,
I couldn't walk and I tried to run,
So I got to tell you,
Goodbye, goodbye.
Mama don't go,
Daddy come home.

ewww :1orglaugh

ps... I love youtube comments:

Thats nasty

Ok, coming back to the root of the problem here (since we're all going in different directions):

Oasis is just copying the Beatles (let alone whether you like them or not). As I said before, they have a good sense of melody, but most of their hit songs are pure theft from Beatles song (yeah, also not the "She Loves You" era..a little later..).

One important thing: I'm not from that era at all...just turned 30. I'm not even the most die hard Beatles fan but I'm a musician and see clear patterns. It's not like Oasis invented new chords structure. It's good basic catchy melodies. a good voice ( but not the greatest voice of r'n'r) but I think they are good in doing what they do: copy the inventors of the brit rock sound (if there's such a thing).

Good point :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

At the peak of their success, the Monkees outsold the Beatles and the Rolling Stones combined, selling over 35 million records, and having four consecutive Number 1 albums in the year 1967 alone.

Amazing how so many of you believe everything you read. So some writer decides to make outlandish accusations with no proof to back it up and you automatically believe it? The author is obviously after money. Smear sells.

You do realize that Noel Gallagher has said The Beatles is the best band ever? Also, umm, you can hear the beatles influence in some of their songs. Just listen to the beginning of Don't Look Back In Anger and tell me what it sounds like exactly.

He also said they were bigger than the beatles.

The imitated the beatles style...he's a legend in his own mind, the band conquered the UK, that's great, but worldwide they haven't made the impact that The Beatles have.

Oasis has a retro sound, there's nothing new there, they're not changing anything, they're just redoing what was done. They're a good band, but they'll be hard pressed to have real staying power beyond their diehard fans.

Current bands (say in the last decade or so)...I'd have to say Radiohead has the best unique sound/songs, etc, that'll give it real staying power.

I have never seen so many fucking idiots in one thread. The beatles are Oasis idols, the beatles are their biggest influence, which is ovbious.

But to say that Oasis have not changed music is absolutley fucking rediculous.

They are the biggest, best and most inspirnig band of this generation. Only mabye twice a generation do bands come around that can change your life, there are good bands, fucking excellent bands.

Noel Gallagher is one of the most talented artists the world has seen.

Americans want people stabbing themselves in the head on stage, they get a bright bunch like us, with deodrant on and they don't understand - Liam Gallagher.

That about sums it all up.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BL8XyLZ_ZNw

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FOTsS...eature=related

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_9GiLnZyUgM

Pure fucking magic.

The people that say Oasis suck are either Radiohead fans or Americans. Simple as that :1orglaugh

Here's my viewpoint at 32 years on this rock:
Elvis sucked.
Beatles sucked.
And Oasis couldn't hold a straw to felch either of them.

I also think Shakespear sucked, sans a few pieces I liked, Picaso painted shit, sans a few pieces I liked, etc. It's funny watching people go on and on about how great this or that is/was, when it all boils down to one's own taste. Unless someone's an idiot and can't say: "No, I don't like that", rather they just follow popular opinion. To each their own, I guess. (I would take an original Picaso though, if anyone wanted to give me one - even a shitty one).

/sorry
/rant

You are right it is down to taste but to say they didn't change music is denial really, they along with a few others at the time gave birth to a new genre.

As usual GFY is full of trolling idiots with bad taste in music.

Oasis are the worst band of the post-smiths britpop era hands down.

Pulp > Radiohead > Suede > Oasis

The Beatles > The Stone Roses > The Smiths > Oasis > Radiohead > Pulp

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They're cute when they try to talk :1orglaugh

Oasis is better than Pulp and Radiohead??

The Stone Roses are better than The Fucking Smiths?

I gotta stop participating in any non-business discussion on this board.

Radiohead had have a few decent albums but, at the end of the day all we want to hear is Creep followed by Karma Police and when that arrogant idiot Thom Yorke realises that the sooner the better.

Stone Roses better than the Smiths? Tough call, but Morrissey and Ian brown have also had equally successful solo careers, the two bands are just as good as each other. Though Johnny marr > John squire.

And Pulp are shite. Had a few good songs and thats it.

Yesterday is a GREAT song.

What genre is that? Obviously they were much bigger in the UK but are they still big there? I haven't heard of them much since the late 90's.

Stupidest shit I've heard all week. You obviously don't really listen to music.

I've never been to a radiohead show where they played either of those songs and it's because of people like you. I'd personally like to hear them but they've abstained from playing those songs just to weed out people like you from going to their shows. A real shame.

Roses vs. Smiths a tough call? wtf? Stone Roses have about 7 good songs, Smiths have 81. I hate people who like one or two songs from a band and don't have the decency or dignity to just say you don't really know or dig the rest of their stuff rather than passing an incredibly stupid judgment (i.e. Roses are better than Smiths). It's beyond personal preference. It's just plain retarded.

And Pulp is shite? I think it's time you cut your ears off.

I don't like the name considering the bands that are 'britpop' are not 'pop' at all, but here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britpop

Location: New York City

Opinion invalid.

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Why because I actually listen to music? much more music than you do? way more intently?

You're out of my league when discussing music. ANY music.

I'm a 22 year old senior double major in music and journalism, interning at the most respected independant music publication in the world.

I know more about music i hate than you know about music you love.

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That's right :thumbsup

And guess what?

I do it for the love of it cuz god knows I've probably made 50 times more money than you have by the time you were 22.

:pimp

Read the link.. Oasis were Johnny-come-latelies to Brit Pop, they certainly didn't give birth to it. They just ended up in battle with Blur over who was the biggest.

Oasis... Ok they're the ones who did Wonderwall, right? That song has about three notes in it and sounds like someone singing through a water hose. I am not a huge Beatles fanatic but I really don't see how they compare.

Blur are one of three english bands I should love in theory but havn't really gotten into yet. The others being The Jam, and The Kinks.

And you call yourself a fucking music journalist. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

And I suppose you're well versed in every canonized artist in history?

The guy who said people only want to hear Creep and Karma Police?

That's what journalism is all about buddy. Having the dignity,decency, and sincerity to reserve judgment on something you aren't versed in. In your case that would be everything.

No, but as a music journalist, you should be well versed on 3 of the biggest bands in history. What a joke, no wonder the NME is so shit these days, they have people like you writing for them.

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They're ok. I don't own any albums but they are immensely more interesting than Oasis. Thats why they've had more staying power. The Gallagher brothers are good for a quote, but it's Albarn who's outselling them with the Gorillaz. "Demon Days" trashed "Don't Believe the Truth" - the "good album" that surprised everyone for not being crap like the couple before that.

That's weird.. It's so hard NOT to like the Kinks, also given - in the context of this thread - their popularising of distortion and powerchords and their place in rock history.
Who doesn't like "You Really Got Me" and "All Day And All Of The Night", not to mention their evolution, later masterpieces like "Waterloo Sunset" and even weird stuff like "Lola". It's worth at least a greatest hits compilation (as long as it leaves the metal stuff out ;))

Well don't get me wrong I didn't say I don't like them I just said I haven't fallen in love with any of their albums. Most likely because I haven't given them enough listens. The last time I listened to the supposed masterpiece Village Green was when I was 19 and it simply didn't click. Aside from that I know and love many songs by these guys especially the Kinks' Come Dancing and The Jam's cover of the Supremes' Heatwave.

14 year old boys are always confused as hell. Not shocked.

I really like Pulp, but I think they get overlooked because some of their songs are just plain and simply amusing and I don't mean that in a bad way.