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Let's start by saying that nobody knows why the US got involved in Iraq. If you think you know, I would love to hear the answer. But you can't deny the FACT that Bush did publicly admit that God told him to invade. So try to make some sense of that.

Dont bother with the stubborn old man. I have plenty of experience with his kind. Once you reach that age its impossible to see clearly.

And baddog, try to respond without using one of your witty one-line remarks, which is pretty much all you know how to do.

Obviously wars are started for a variety of reasons - granted, religion being among the biggest motivations.

Greed, power, oil...misguided liberation.

Sometimes politicians start wars thinking it'll help kickstart their domestic economy - or to increase their own treasure chest (*cough* - Haliburton - *cough*).

I firmly believe the general public aren't usually privvy to the genuine reasons war is started by one faction or another. The real motivators are tucked behind closed doors and meet in secret 'societies'.

We're spoon-fed the diversionary reasons through media manipulation to misdirect and make us think the war is somehow justified.

GWB woke up one morning and thanked Gawd some religious fanatics brought down the WTC so he could justify marching in to Iraq and:

a) take out the sonofabitch that "tried to kill my Daddy".
b) make Haliburton (and affiliated cronies) an even richer corporation.
c) explore the possibilities of controling a greater supply of middleast oil reserves.

And of course, GWB spun it to the media he was "liberating Iraq from a fanatical tyrant with 'weapons of mass destruction' - galore."

Trouble is...there was no WMDs to be found - and people began questioning why he chose to "liberate" Iraq when there were far worse oppressed countries that badly needed democratic liberation.

Now about your "go to war" part...

Occasionally it is necessary to go to war against dictators and aggressors, for international law enforcement, for similar reasons to why a city needs a police force. A city without police wouldn't be a very nice place to live, would it? Well, it's the same on the international stage --a world that tolerates dictators and aggressors isn't nice either.

Should the US be the policeman of the world?

Ideally, no. That should be the job of the UN. But, if the UN is taken over by a bunch of spineless jellyfish and collaborators, and years of diplomacy fails, there may not be much of an alternative..

You have your head stuck so far up your ass that your lips, nose, ears and eyes are all covered in shit. Ignorant dumb fuck.

Well, you make a solid argument. Very thoughtful.

I have just 2 questions.

1. What does this have to do with their religion?
2. Since when does a policeman invade a nation based on fabricated proof with the intent on hanging it's leader until dead?

ever read Lord Of the Flies ?

I thought it was about the oil... that we didn't get.

Now it's about religion... that we didn't convert?

Next week it will be about getting a fresh supply of sand to restock our deserts.

I would say its oil and religion. But Iraq is small in comparison to some of the slaughter at the hands of Christians.

We need a time line on the Iraqi invasion reasons.

Was it wmd, god told me to, terrorist funding and then liberation? Or did they come in a different order?

I know liberation was last. But "Gold told me" was in there somewhere. It was just quickly swept under the rug.

You guys should read 1984.

War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.

I hate how that book was right about 99% of shit.