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DamageX 10-03-2008 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 14849191)
Knowing how cheap most webmasters really are, I'm willing to bet quite a few will, provided AlphaRed actually DO go belly-up. So far I haven't heard of any servers online and from another thread it sounds like operations MAY continue.

That should be "servers offline". :)

Boss Traffic Jim 10-03-2008 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by undersoul (Post 14849161)
hopefully no webmasters get screwed over this!

Thats what many people said right befoe LikeWhoa disappeared and all their servers and data was Gone. Or when Cologroup (that Jayson dude) the cogent reseller also disarreared, or magg from foundrynapp. Don't wait until it's to late. History will repeat itself so dont get caught with your pant down and all your business in gone.:2 cents::2 cents:

Brad Mitchell 10-03-2008 09:09 AM

I wish *everybody* good luck. I am hopeful that AlphaRed is able to continue serving it's customer base without interruption. Everyone has to make the decisions they feel are best for their business to protect their assets.

If we can be of any assistance to anyone, please reach out to us.

Sincerely,

Brad

ISPrime_dimi 10-03-2008 09:47 AM

Should anyone require assistance in backing up or transferring their site, data, or content please contact us via email or ICQ; we're here to help. Best of luck and hope everyone stays afloat!

Techie Media 10-03-2008 10:03 AM

To those of you who have already contacted us your servers are being set up now and data has already begun being transferred. You will be contacted by a technician as soon as we have your data safely moved to your new servers. To those who may be interested in saving your businesses we are here to help you but please keep in mind we are not in the biz of competing with low budget cogent type hosts offering 4 and 5 dollar bandwidth with used junkie servers. We are a Hi Quality host with only Tier 1 bandwidth and very hi caliber support. In lieu of the current alpha red situation we are offering some VERY aggressive deals for 50 meg and above bandwidth users. Contact me for details. Good luck to all.:)

AdultEUhost 10-03-2008 10:03 AM

Damn that sucks for everybody who is hosting there, as far as i know they have quite some customers.

If anyone needs help, let me know i will be around all day
we have servers online and ready to use

webair 10-03-2008 10:19 AM

I hate seeing this happen to webmasters. These "Slash & Burn" type of companies are way too common. Having said that I feel that webmasters really need to look into who they are doing business with. When looking for a host keep in mind you are going to be working hand in hand with this company to run your business efficiently. There are some great hosts that advertise and post on this board. If it sounds too good to be true it most likely is! CHOOSE WISELY!

As always, we are here if you need us. Webair.com has a proven track record in this industry. With more than 12 years experience under our belt, Multiple data center locations, over 70 employees, robust network architecture, real-time 24/7 support, we are a company you can count on long term. If there is anything we can do to help you with your transition please feel free to contact us anytime 1.866.WEBAIR1 or [email protected]

Thanks to those that have already signed up with us we will have you up and running ASAP! We appreciate your business!

Best of luck to all,

Michael Christopher - CEO WEBAIR.COM

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milan 10-03-2008 11:07 AM

I'm happy that other Host's jumped on this thread to offer help, good work guys!

AliGbone 10-03-2008 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webair (Post 14849916)
I hate seeing this happen to webmasters. These "Slash & Burn" type of companies are way too common. Having said that I feel that webmasters really need to look into who they are doing business with. When looking for a host keep in mind you are going to be working hand in hand with this company to run your business efficiently. There are some great hosts that advertise and post on this board. If it sounds too good to be true it most likely is! CHOOSE WISELY!

As always, we are here if you need us. Webair.com has a proven track record in this industry. With more than 12 years experience under our belt, Multiple data center locations, over 70 employees, robust network architecture, real-time 24/7 support, we are a company you can count on long term. If there is anything we can do to help you with your transition please feel free to contact us anytime 1.866.WEBAIR1 or [email protected]

Thanks to those that have already signed up with us we will have you up and running ASAP! We appreciate your business!

Best of luck to all,

Michael Christopher - CEO WEBAIR.COM

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Now dats a class act! I gots servers with these dudes for years with out so much as a hicup! I grew my bidness from nothin to pushing close to a gig wit da webair crew. Just ordered more for me tube sites dey got a sick deal for these types of sites. :pimp

Spudstr 10-03-2008 11:51 AM

If anyone is looking for some backup servics, we have about 8TB of backup space we are offering as a temporary solution for a month or two until people find a home at their new host. Just icq me for details.

k0nr4d 10-03-2008 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 14850376)
If anyone is looking for some backup servics, we have about 8TB of backup space we are offering as a temporary solution for a month or two until people find a home at their new host. Just icq me for details.

Anyone who's on the fence about this alphared thing should hit spudstr up about that. That sounds like it might be useful for those hosting galleries.

cayne 10-03-2008 12:01 PM

Realitychecknetwork.com :D

Rodent 10-03-2008 12:38 PM

If anyone needs help with something hit me up below, we have some great specials running for the month of october.

www.ReliableServers.Com
icq 3835797 david at reliableservers.com

split_joel 10-03-2008 12:42 PM

Hello everyone,

First I want to say I wish alphrared and there customers best of luck and hopefully they can get past any issues they are having and continue to provide there clients with there services.

I want to say to anyone out there please listen to Milian from Oc3networks and backup all your data ASAP.

I have talked to our CEO Chris Jester III granting clearance to make the following offer to anyone who is in fear of losing there data or there server going off and there websites become unreachable.

We will assist you in moving your servers for free, charging no setup fee's and providing you first months free. We are doing this because we know a lot of you are unsure about what is going on, so the first month free is in case you move to us and alphared is fine and you wish to move back. Your data will be safe and it will not cost you a penny.

If you choose to host with us I want you to know we will take care of you and do everything we can to make a transition to our services as easy and painless as possible.

If you have any questions please contact me on aim @ splitjoelp or you can call me directly @ 619-395-5229 and we can talk and answer any of your questions. We have an unlimited amount of servers so we can have you moved in no time.

Once again best of luck to Alphared and there customers, and a thanks to Milian from Oc3 Networks for making the post warning people to take actions to backup there data and move if need be.

Have a good day.

Joel Pritchard
Sales & Tech Support
Suavemente & Splitinfinity

u-Bob 10-03-2008 01:06 PM

bump .

seeric 10-03-2008 01:12 PM

JDL WOOFHOST is here to assist you if you need anything.

We can have you backed up and running in less than 2 years.

oscer 10-03-2008 01:15 PM

I wonder if this lawsuit could really take the company down .. cause to me it looks like all the R'syncing and Fear is what will do it .





Quik-host.com
AIM stynkradio
ICQ 42602565

xenigo 10-03-2008 01:25 PM

I find it rather hilarious how this thread turned into such a hosting spam circle-jerk so quickly. :1orglaugh

You guys are like fucking piranha. :2 cents:

Net Money 10-03-2008 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscer (Post 14850731)
I wonder if this lawsuit could really take the company down .. cause to me it looks like all the R'syncing and Fear is what will do it .


Quik-host.com
AIM stynkradio
ICQ 42602565

Of course it can, a company that is based on selling BW for 1 dollar per meg profit and then add the money for servers, routers and other hardware and then data center and tech and other employee fees.......LOL those type of companies always go bankrupt.:2 cents:

Look at Like Whooa, Foundry Nap, cologroup....all these idiots tried to just earn biz by being cheap and all went under.....It's just not a good (profitable) business model.:2 cents:

Snake Doctor 10-03-2008 01:31 PM

This would probably be a good time for most people to consider having an offsite backup with a 3rd party, like Clonebox (not sure if my strongbox refcode works for this service, but I may as well try :glugglug)

What good is having daily backups if they're with your host that just went out of business?

A full clonebox hot spare server is $24/mo for 200GB, 12 cents per additional GB.

webair 10-03-2008 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliGbone (Post 14850111)
Now dats a class act! I gots servers with these dudes for years with out so much as a hicup! I grew my bidness from nothin to pushing close to a gig wit da webair crew. Just ordered more for me tube sites dey got a sick deal for these types of sites. :pimp

Thanks buddy! i love to hear WEBAIR success stories! even if it is not always in english :) :thumbsup

NETBilling-Andy 10-03-2008 02:22 PM

We're certainly ready to step in as well and help out with any immediate hosting needs. Hit up anyone in sales at CCBill or CaveCreek and we can talk about hosting or data storage (disaster recovery) services.

oscer 10-03-2008 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Net Money (Post 14850794)
Of course it can, a company that is based on selling BW for 1 dollar per meg profit and then add the money for servers, routers and other hardware and then data center and tech and other employee fees.......LOL those type of companies always go bankrupt.:2 cents:

Look at Like Whooa, Foundry Nap, cologroup....all these idiots tried to just earn biz by being cheap and all went under.....It's just not a good (profitable) business model.:2 cents:


LOL Foundry nap ... that dood didnt have money to start and tried to be a big shot and he failed horrible and from what i hear not once but twice ..

Also i always keep it a rule to keep at least a 20% margin on top of things so that all those expenses that need to be paid in good order .. but thats me

Ross 10-03-2008 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by split_joel (Post 14850606)
Hello everyone,

First I want to say I wish alphrared and there customers best of luck and hopefully they can get past any issues they are having and continue to provide there clients with there services.

I want to say to anyone out there please listen to Milian from Oc3networks and backup all your data ASAP.

I have talked to our CEO Chris Jester III granting clearance to make the following offer to anyone who is in fear of losing there data or there server going off and there websites become unreachable.

We will assist you in moving your servers for free, charging no setup fee's and providing you first months free. We are doing this because we know a lot of you are unsure about what is going on, so the first month free is in case you move to us and alphared is fine and you wish to move back. Your data will be safe and it will not cost you a penny.

If you choose to host with us I want you to know we will take care of you and do everything we can to make a transition to our services as easy and painless as possible.

If you have any questions please contact me on aim @ splitjoelp or you can call me directly @ 619-395-5229 and we can talk and answer any of your questions. We have an unlimited amount of servers so we can have you moved in no time.

Once again best of luck to Alphared and there customers, and a thanks to Milian from Oc3 Networks for making the post warning people to take actions to backup there data and move if need be.

Have a good day.

Joel Pritchard
Sales & Tech Support
Suavemente & Splitinfinity

ICQ me when you get a chance
164643450

Thanks

Juicy D. Links 10-03-2008 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 14850718)
JDL WOOFHOST is here to assist you if you need anything.

We can have you backed up and running in less than 2 years.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Klen 10-03-2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 14849628)
I wish *everybody* good luck. I am hopeful that AlphaRed is able to continue serving it's customer base without interruption. Everyone has to make the decisions they feel are best for their business to protect their assets.

If we can be of any assistance to anyone, please reach out to us.

Sincerely,

Brad

I bet you curse in your mind "damn why didnt i opened this thread and take all glory"

pocketkangaroo 10-03-2008 04:58 PM

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Sin_Vraal 10-03-2008 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Net Money (Post 14850794)
Of course it can, a company that is based on selling BW for 1 dollar per meg profit and then add the money for servers, routers and other hardware and then data center and tech and other employee fees.......LOL those type of companies always go bankrupt.:2 cents:

Look at Like Whooa, Foundry Nap, cologroup....all these idiots tried to just earn biz by being cheap and all went under.....It's just not a good (profitable) business model.:2 cents:

I dont think they went down for anything to do with being cheap. Its fairly obvious why they are going down lol.

and your kinda calling their customers cheap by extension.:2 cents:

Iron Fist 10-03-2008 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 14850781)
I find it rather hilarious how this thread turned into such a hosting spam circle-jerk so quickly. :1orglaugh

You guys are like fucking piranha. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No kidding... and what makes this a perfect storm, is the people who actually host with AlphaRed posting here and telling everyone they hope they get their shit off the network before something substancial happens, AND AlphaRed not even making a peep about anything.

sigurman 10-03-2008 05:52 PM

fuck this...
nobody from ALPHARED????

split_joel 10-03-2008 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross (Post 14851551)
ICQ me when you get a chance
164643450

Thanks

Hey,

I sent you a msg on ICQ.

Talk to you soon.

Net Money 10-03-2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin_Vraal (Post 14851762)
I dont think they went down for anything to do with being cheap. Its fairly obvious why they are going down lol.

and your kinda calling their customers cheap by extension.:2 cents:


I never said they went down for being cheap, I was inferring that with their business model of being a cheap host and opperating at a tiny profit margin if even that, that they don't have shit for resources to to even think about fighting a legal battle with Microsoft or the Attorney Generals office. Also YES their customers are cheap, thats why they choose to go with a bottom of the barrel host rather than a quality host for a few more bucks.:2 cents:

Spudstr 10-03-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Net Money (Post 14851828)
I never said they went down for being cheap, I was inferring that with their business model of being a cheap host and opperating at a tiny profit margin if even that, that they don't have shit for resources to to even think about fighting a legal battle with Microsoft or the Attorney Generals office. Also YES their customers are cheap, thats why they choose to go with a bottom of the barrel host rather than a quality host for a few more bucks.:2 cents:


When they oversell and bill out at 95th and get billed at the 90th percentile, and sell at 4/Mbps and their cost is slightly below. when you have 40+Gbps bandwidth your low margins make up for volume. a 3-4 dollar profit margin is the same if your selling for 15/Mbps. There are lots of variables involved and lots of different business models to go by. By the volume of bandwidth they were pushing i'm sure they were doing well for themselves.

dubsix 10-03-2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 14851852)
When they oversell and bill out at 95th and get billed at the 90th percentile, and sell at 4/Mbps and their cost is slightly below. when you have 40+Gbps bandwidth your low margins make up for volume. a 3-4 dollar profit margin is the same if your selling for 15/Mbps. There are lots of variables involved and lots of different business models to go by. By the volume of bandwidth they were pushing i'm sure they were doing well for themselves.

You aren't even taking into account their cost of corporate overhead, support, office space, other bills, power, physical space, etc.

Their products were priced at straight up $4-5/mbps so a 100mbps box was $400-500 with hardware included, even $4/mbps @ 90% isn't going to cover all their costs.

V_RocKs 10-03-2008 06:42 PM

Alpha Red = Enron without a handshake and a wink from President Bush and Dick Cheney.

milan 10-03-2008 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WireSix-Ryan (Post 14851896)
You aren't even taking into account their cost of corporate overhead, support, office space, other bills, power, physical space, etc.

Their products were priced at straight up $4-5/mbps so a 100mbps box was $400-500 with hardware included, even $4/mbps @ 90% isn't going to cover all their costs.

Ryan you are a smart guys and seem like a good biz man! I was saying the above all along... :thumbsup

Spudstr 10-03-2008 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WireSix-Ryan (Post 14851896)
You aren't even taking into account their cost of corporate overhead, support, office space, other bills, power, physical space, etc.

Their products were priced at straight up $4-5/mbps so a 100mbps box was $400-500 with hardware included, even $4/mbps @ 90% isn't going to cover all their costs.

No its not, but the massive overselling they did makes up for a large chunk. Not to mention however many accounts they have still at 8/Mbps pricing etc that they were running a year ago. and now their cost was sub 4/Mbps.

You and I both know they were the cheapest cogent boxes 1-2 years ago and undercut everybody and I'm sure they still had plenty of people still paying 8-10/Mbps when their cost was sub 4. Thats still nice profit on top of the massive overselling.

dubsix 10-03-2008 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milan (Post 14851914)
Ryan you are a smart guys and seem like a good biz man! I was saying the above all along... :thumbsup

Ilan,

Thanks for the compliments, wish I could recipricate but I still can't believe you would hire Chris Gotzmann and then assist in the cover up and continue to allow him to operate under a false identity.

At the very least you made the promise to cover any of his oustanding debts which was a nice move but stil... Chris? come on man.

Techie Media 10-03-2008 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WireSix-Ryan (Post 14851896)
You aren't even taking into account their cost of corporate overhead, support, office space, other bills, power, physical space, etc.

Their products were priced at straight up $4-5/mbps so a 100mbps box was $400-500 with hardware included, even $4/mbps @ 90% isn't going to cover all their costs.

Exactly correct.:2 cents:

milan 10-03-2008 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WireSix-Ryan (Post 14851938)
Ilan,

Thanks for the compliments, wish I could recipricate but I still can't believe you would hire Chris Gotzmann and then assist in the cover up and continue to allow him to operate under a false identity.

At the very least you made the promise to cover any of his outstanding debts which was a nice move but stil... Chris? come on man.

if you read my post I stand behind it and already took care of 1 that was able to proof damage etc... and one is about to.

but this is for another time or if you like more info ICQ me :)

hey the kid changed and doing things by the book, and for what he is making now HE BETTER!


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