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brand0n 10-21-2008 10:29 AM

looks good

baddog 10-21-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 14931293)
PS: how about a pic of you and goodgirl together :thumbsup

http://juliablue.com/Ju07.JPG

baddog 10-21-2008 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14929295)
i thought lloyd was gay.... :Oh crap

Only for you jungle cakes.

Rorschach 10-21-2008 01:02 PM

I would like to point out the downside of so-called SEO hosting.

Like a previous poster stated, the days of having huge internally linked networks is long gone - you can cross link all day but if you don't have link juice coming in you're dead in the water. Look at a vector space map of any cross linked network and it stands out like a sore thumb. Trust, authority, and quality link backs going to (apparently) quality domains is the direction that SEO is going, rather than the huge networks of crap of the late 90s and early 00s.

I would also point out that anyone (including google) can look up what IP is assigned to what host at ARIN; if your IPs are connected to a host that is known for advertising to people that deliberately want to influence their SE rankings, you are potentially setting yourself up for trouble.

The forward thinking SEO has dozens (or hundreds) of virtual accounts at different hosts, providing completely unrelated IPs and a mix of the hosts' and anonymous nameservers. He also quickly writes a custom bot for each host (with copious error management) that plugs into the back end of his management system to abstract the crap work of adding and managing domains.

You have to slide under the radar, and sometimes that means putting in a little extra effort.

:2 cents:

BradM 10-21-2008 01:04 PM

This is a great idea. :)

baddog 10-21-2008 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rorschach (Post 14932036)
I would like to point out the downside of so-called SEO hosting.

Ask 10 SEO "experts" the same question, get 10 different answers.

BradM 10-21-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14932097)
Ask 10 SEO "experts" the same question, get 10 different answers.

An SEO expert doesn't reveal anything. They just get #1 rankings and travel the world.

Rorschach 10-21-2008 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14932097)
Ask 10 SEO "experts" the same question, get 10 different answers.

You are a salesman and have a vested interest in pushing the particular model of SEO that your hosting supports... This is an open discussion forum and I am just pointing out the other side of the coin. Having a lot of IPs is no magic bullet.

baddog 10-21-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rorschach (Post 14932139)
You are a salesman and have a vested interest in pushing the particular model of SEO that your hosting supports... This is an open discussion forum and I am just pointing out the other side of the coin. Having a lot of IPs is no magic bullet.

Actually, no. It is not my job to convince you what you need. Those that need it know why they need it. I just provide the solutions for them.

You know very little about what we do or how we do it, so you end up making lots of inaccurate assumptions. But that is okay. Like I said, those that need it know why they need it. I just provide the solutions for them.

BradM 10-21-2008 01:27 PM

Here's a question I've wanted to know and this is a good a place as any to ask it.
If I am interlinking my network, should each site be on its own class C? Say 20 sites. Does having them all on the exact same IP devalue the link weight?

Rorschach 10-21-2008 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14932156)
You know very little about what we do or how we do it, so you end up making lots of inaccurate assumptions.

Well I don't see you refuting any of my statements. The only way you could have true under-the-radar robustness as far as SE detection is if you have multiple hosts in separate geographic locations run as individual businesses, run from one back end; hence your multiple admin interfaces for each IP. Which is fine, but IMO if you're really a serious search engine webmaster you would be better off writing your own more flexible system to do the same thing, or pay someone else $500 to do it for you, rather than paying gotwebhost a hefty ongoing monthly premium.

baddog 10-21-2008 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rorschach (Post 14932199)
Well I don't see you refuting any of my statements. The only way you could have true under-the-radar robustness as far as SE detection is if you have multiple hosts in separate geographic locations run as individual businesses, run from one back end; hence your multiple admin interfaces for each IP. Which is fine, but IMO if you're really a serious search engine webmaster you would be better off writing your own more flexible system to do the same thing, or pay someone else $500 to do it for you, rather than paying gotwebhost a hefty ongoing monthly premium.

Actually, we have servers all over the country.

I have never disputed that you can go get hosting at 30 different hosts to accomplish the same thing as what we provide, but that means you will have 30 different control panels, 30 different bills, 30 different support contacts.

We just make it easy and offer support that is second to none.

baddog 10-21-2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14932185)
Here's a question I've wanted to know and this is a good a place as any to ask it.
If I am interlinking my network, should each site be on its own class C? Say 20 sites. Does having them all on the exact same IP devalue the link weight?

Again, ask 10 experts, get 10 different answers.

Well respected SEO Bruce Clay observed the following:

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Yes! We recommend that any site serious about their rankings spend the money (it's only a few extra bucks a month) to be on a dedicated IP.

It?s important for a few reasons. First, we?re pretty sure it plays at least a small part in the search engine?s algorithms. The engines will use reverse lookup to determine what kind of IP you?re on. If you think they don?t care, consider this: It?s been said that about 3 percent of all Web sites have dedicated IPs, with the other 97 percent resting on shared IPs. Research was then conducted analyzing the top 50 results for certain queries in the various search engines. The research found that 90 percent of the top-50 results were using dedicated IP numbers.

Three percent of Web sites use them, and 90 percent of Web sites in the top 50 results have them. Counterintuitive, don?t you think?

We thought so. In fact, we?ve found it so odd we repeated the tests several times, and each time we got the same results. We?ve even seen cases where switching from a virtual IP to a dedicated IP number alone has caused an increase in rankings.
As far as interlinking sites sharing the same Class C (or IP), it has been suggested that linking two sites on the same IP carries about as much weight as an internal link.

baddog 10-22-2008 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by goodgirl (Post 14931250)
have you? Why would you want a "crazy" woman?

I was thinking we have been partners for over 6 years, if that was a marriage I guess it works with you being in CA and me in IN. :1orglaugh

Who knows, maybe I would still be married if I had kept my wives 2,000 miles away.

baddog 10-22-2008 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaze (Post 14928413)
didn't post pricing.

Got the plans published now. http://www.gotwebhost.com/shared-servers.html


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