Yes, they has a reason for doing that. I emailed them and it all got fixed.

In the future I would suggest you terminate/suspend partners you believe are in violation of your terms when you can't make contact with them. You are simply asking for trouble doing something like this. I'm not even sure if its legal.

Hmm... never had a problem with DAD... oh wait.. that doesn't sound right.

I wanted to give the affiliate benefit of a doubt and it was mainly to draw the affiliate's attention to the problem, since they did not reply to complaint emails. Suspension would have come in only one more week. I think it's fair to give everyone a chance to straighten things up.

Further, 403 errors are caused in NY and NJ, that's it. This is done for some pretty obvious reasons. If you feel you need to pull the program because we protect our models, then so be it. We can release single IPS from these areas if needs be. So if you are an affiliate and have a problem, we can always release your IP.

So you drop their percentage just to get their attention? What is ccbill's take on this, someone should send a link to this thread to corvette, That is so wrong on so many levels, bods has excellent traffic, i know its made me lots of money over the years.

No, I dropped him because he was violating some of our terms in content usage. If someone violates our terms, and they do not reply to our contacts, this is the first step taken. They are given a chance to straighten things out before full suspension.

I guess by trying to do the right thing for the affiliate, I gave myself more of a headache than I had with him violating my terms. I did what was in the best interest of the affiliate.

Your answer is very rude, impolite and confrontating... to sum it up : very bad public relations.

With all the affiliate programs out there, everybody who read that is definitly not going to use you in the future.

Why lowering the percentage to 5 % instead of just suspending the account ? it sounds like a very shady way to keep the affiliate sending sales while suspended.

Are you serious? If you really wanted to get hold of someone you can. Post on boards they frequent/ask others for their icq etc.

And dropping an affiliate to 5% until they realise is clearly the best way to get their attention? I lol'd.

The affiliate's account has now been suspended until they are able to resolve the issue we have notified them of several times.

We provide great support and affiliate care. If any affiliate has a problem, has any questions, or is in need of more promo tools, we have a 24/7 email support system. We can easily resolve any problem or situation within a matter of minutes that comes up.

I am hurt that this affiliate who has been with us for such a long time has gone this route and that we had to come to the suspension of the account. Hopefully "Bods4Mods" can straighten this out so we can get back to business as usual.

Does this really work? pics and vids are available all over the internet, the only thing that can't be reached is the paysite and fhg.

The affiliate was emailed 3 times.

bods sends a lot of sales I'm sure, bet it was nice getting a large % of those sales rather than canceling his account huh?

looks like his account is deactivated now
"Partner account XXX has been deactivated"

that sucks..time to change your links

anyway..do you have a link to your tos annangel

Thanks, you just made me piss my pants laughing. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I guess that's what happens when you get content trying to run a business.

If I sound rude in my initial reaction it is because this affiliate has been with us for a very long time. When the account was dropped I actually didn't realize right away who it was. The emails were sent out, and there were no replies back. We took the first step before suspension. This affiliate has all my contacts, emails, IMS, etc. He contacted me once on AIM, by the time I got back he wasn't on anymore, so I couldn't get a hold of him. After his initial message, he makes this post. How does that make me feel? Doing business for over 5 years, with thousands of affiliates. We take care of everyone. So to make it seems like we don't be creating a post like this, by an affiliate who has been around us, and knows us, for so long, is a bit backstabbing. So yea, maybe I was a bit impolite. Was this whole post really warranted?

Let's be clear. He sent about 3 sales, since this change was made. His account was only dropped for a short amount of time and was due to be suspended tomrrow, the first work day of the week. So let's not try to make it look like I tried to make a big scheme here.

Your frustration is understandable, but let's consider the audience your addressing here :upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow

In other news, can you hit me up ICQ 889-8053? Want to get some promo material for your sites :)

My terms are discussed every time I provide an affiliate with member's area access. Wether it be by ICQ or email. This affiliate, has been with us for a long time and should clearly know what we consider off limits. If an affiliate is using material from our cash program directly, then there is no way to violate terms. It is only the select few who contact me directly on a regular basis that get member's access to use content they choose, that I have the same speech with over and over.

I thought the same thing once its out there its out there.

It works to keep the models satisfied/ more comfortable/ safe and also to keep the model's family/ friends from going to their site. Pretty obvious.

Results 1 - 21 of about 132,000 for "ann angel"

http://images.google.com/images?gbv=...=Search+Images

These are mostly third party sites. I think that's the point BlackCrayon was trying to make.

A shave is a shave -- you don't shave affiliates EVER. Are you now suspending his account because he took offense to your shaving him? That's bullshit. Thought suspension wasn't scheduled until tomorrow? I know Bods and he's honest as the day is long, so if you sent emails to him they weren't received.

Did you try contacting Bods on AIM (he is easily reached) because it seems to me after these 5 years you might have attempted other methods of communication too. I hope you refund his sales and straighten this out quickly. You have a good program and you produce high quality regularly updating websites. You should be an example in this industry of what to do, not an example of what not to do...

Btw, you should have a TOS because us small webmasters often get our promo from bigger sites because your last Ann Angel promo was mid August? Even us small webbies like to look fresh with the big boys and I could be in violation myself of these unposted TOS and not know it and get shaved.

I always love the argument that GFY isn't a support board for so and so program. You're absolutely right, it is a webmaster board, and if you do something that a webmaster considers shady or unethical they are going to discuss it on this board with other webmasters...

There is no reason he did not receive 3 emails. We took this step first before issuing the drop. I suspended it now instead of tomorrow because I don't need it to be a bigger thing than it really is. So what is today, what is tomorrow?

Bods has been with us for a long time and I would think by now he clearly knows what not to use. If a webmaster is getting promo stuff from other sites that are violating terms, than chances are they won't read my terms. Let's keep in mind that this situation is in relation to a single webmaster who KNEW the terms and still violated them. Even after being notified.

Email is the single best way to get a hold of someone, from my own experience of over 5 years. It's difficult to get a hold of someone on AIM when they are not online since messages aren't sent through even if they're signed off, like on ICQ. Bods has his IM turned on at the moment, and my complaints have been sent to his IM, still without reply.

Not saying he is a bad guy, never did. What I said was that this post was completely unnecessary. Just look at the title of the thread. He is implying that I am not taking care of my affiliates, which is clearly not the case, when HE was the one in violation of some simple terms.

Where at is your TOS?
Where in your "agreement" does it state your allowed to lower ones percentage for any reason? Especially when it says 50% of all sales and 50% of all re bills for life. *Though it does say they may earn up to 60%.
Also notice your advertisements state 50 - 75% payouts. However your Text link advertising now says 10% on all referrals. No paying 75% of all sales. You may again want to explain that too since there is no TOS. I figure one would and should already be expecting 75% of all sales at least right now with 50% rev share (fair assumption).
I am also curious where in your agreement, or at least email to new affiliates does it explain about the blocking or area's - no matter how small of a region?

Resolution has been found between the parties which is a good thing. I wish that could happen more in this world. We both walked away without hard feelings and such. :thumbsup

What I say?

He's been around a long time.

Anyway, she sells period.

http://www.iseekgirls.com/blog/wp-co...no_panties.jpg

Show some love

Ah nevermind... :disgust

what a crock of assshit.

Late for the party this time Mali.

On a side note your cousin from the great state of deliverance is missing - If you see rivetfan up there please send him my way. I have his banjo. :upsidedow

Pretty obvious? Once its on the web its on the web. Your site isnt the only place it winds up. If I closed my sites tomorrow the content would be still be all over the web forever.

Well, glad to see everything worked out. The Digital Angel sites are some good websites. Get this, they update their websites! Still skip step 2 next time guys -- contact the problem affiliate, wait a couple days, and then suspend the affiliate account until it gets cleared up.

top notch

Just wow..

Hi Guys.

Lol her parents dont know yet. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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Further, 403 errors are caused in NY and NJ, that's it. QUOTE]

I wonder what % of US traffic is NY & NJ

NYC is about 3% by itself based on wikipedia (8M/280M)

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They way they run their business is up to them. The world is bigger than the tri-state area. Either way I am still making sales.

Would you please stop changing names - jesus :upsidedow

Yes family and friends are the normal reason to block a state.