What terms were violated?

Nevermind.

This thread was a real eye opener. Thanks:upsidedow

Sound ridiculous to me that a site owner would try and tell his models they are protecting them by trying to block their home states from accessing the sites. Someone they know is going to end up seeing them online anyway on an affiliates site or elsewhere. I prefer to hire models that love porn and don't mind being seen all over. I was even able to pull this off back in the 90's when I filmed in NY & NJ. Hot girls are plentiful nowadays, no need to mislead them with the idea that a simple ip block will keep them anonymous. And cutting an affiliate's percentage down to 5% for any reason doesn't make sense either.

too funny, 404 all NJ and NY traffic cause the model doesnt want people to know what she does.

You made the choice the day you wanted to be content.

seriously!

I'm so sick of threads like these. People should come to the board after well documented accounts of trying to get in touch with the program, or contact with the program in question that is failing to come to resolution.


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Are you joking?

This is what has always made GFY entertaining... or are you here for the pulp news copypastas and [pic] threads?

Hell, I originally found this board because I wanted to bitch at lensman about his PPC program way back in the day.

I'm guessing the 403 policy is only created to give the model some type of false hope? A surfer/family member is much more likely to find them listed on a site like The Hun or the thousands of others just like it then they would by clicking a pay site link.

Yeah I don't know about blocking access to the main site, there's thousands of galleries remotely hosted on sites/blogs/forums/imagehosts everywhere, that the program doesn't have control over, so is IP blocking really going to protect the model from someone else seeing the content in the end? Probably not...

Seems like a lot of work for nothing.

Basically all they're guaranteeing is that the 1/8 th of the US population that lives in NY can't sign up, regardless how eager they might be after having seen the content on a third party site.

You should just back off.....

I went threw a similar thing back in 1999-2001.

I don't think you know what you are talking about.

The Ip block was created at model's request. Since the block she hasn't been bothered by family or friends, they simply think the site is dead. This goes for all models. Sure they can find some content if they really search for it, but at least they won't be able to click on the site. If anything the girl now has the chance to say, ya I did it, but I don't do it anymore. Not like dad will keep searching the web for the pics. What was done is done and they can move on with their lives knowing the site "doesn't exist" anymore. This is not false hope nor is it a plot into luring models. I always explain clearly that her promo content on other sites won't be blocked. They understand that, but can sleep better at night knowing the site is blocked. If that makes them happy, I am happy to do it for them! Nothing wrong with keeping models happy.

I've honestly never heard this done by any program ever. It seems if you don't want people to see you nude, you don't model nude. That's a big chunk of traffic and sales you give up and it'd be silly for anyone to promote.

it's done on lots of solo girl sites - it doesn't work, geo-IP is at best 75% accurate, but if it makes the model feel better there's nothing wrong with it. it's just unfortunate in this case it's a huge state like NY/NJ rather than an Iowa or South Carolina.

i would not do it for a girl from a large state - if i did i'd let affiliates know.

Either way it is yours to run how you want. No matter what everything should be listed in plain sight via a terms of service so affiliates have that information to make their own choice before signing up. Same goes for how you handle violations, what content is usable and where.
Then would you please explain the signature. It clearly "now paying 75% of all sales".

Fact is sales are as strong as ever, and this has not adversely affected us in ANY WAY. Therefore I am happy to do it for any of my girls if it helps them sleep better at night. I think affiliates of our sites will vouch for this. If I have to give up 2-5 sales a month from NY as opposed to the 50 per day a site gets, it's all worth it to keep a model happy.

The signature is also accurate. Some affiliates who have contacted me who send larger amounts of traffic/ sales, will get bumped to 75% for a decided period of time as a reward for their efforts. We have also run promos in the past where everyone received 75% for a period of time. We will most likely do it again this Christmas for all affiliates.

Perhaps it should then read up to 75% instead of how it currently reads.
You still have given tons of valid reasons to yourself and your business as to why you block an area, yet you have not given a single one as to why not just have a clear TOS that explains such that affiliates can read before they sign up.

Hey, don't go doing that now!

I can understand where people are coming from on both sides of this issue, but you really shouldn't use money/sales as a matter of leverage in disputes between a customer and the agent. Infact, in the real world thats pretty much considered theft.

If you don't pay your electric bill or cable bill, the company doesn't turn off half your service or readjust your rate to get your attention. If they mail you and you don't get your letters....or you don't respond...it gets suspended.

Sometimes good intentions don't always make for good business practices.

probably just a learning lesson for both parties.

Nevermind.

Yes they do. If you are a big client/customer of pretty much any type of business, they will extend you certain "perks". If you run a factory and you are having problems with your electric bill... you aren't just going to get cut off, there will be meetings and mediations and all sorts of crap. Businesses do not like to piss off loyal and/or big customers, they will bend over backwards to try to make them happy, accommodate their needs, and work things out.

Special treatment exists... it's what makes the world go round.

I think you are confusing account status with financial terms. Whether its extra credit given or some other perk, the cost of the goods and the payment for those goods usually never changes. You may not be able to pay your bill, they might extend your credit to the point where you owe more, but the terms of how much you owe and what you are charged still never changes.

Extending credit is not the same as changing price structure. Working things out, bending over backwards, giving you extra time, none of that changes the price per killowatt hour you pay in agreement when you signed up for electrical service. You use it, you owe it.

Same deal here. Violation of a TOS agreement maybe terms for suspension/termination/forfetiture, but you can't change a percentage payout inleu thereof. A sale is a sale and if you violate TOS, you can't complain about being terminated, but that doesn't change the agreement the owner has with the affiliate to pay set percentage for validated sales that come through.

TOS violations reflect that status of your account. You can't partially pay an affiliate and claim TOS violation. Even partial payment is acknowledgent of a valid sale and under valid sale agreements, you are entitlied to the set percentage.