The EU won't be important after the coming of the New World Order.

I love the baddog-like idiots who come in with their presumptuous positions without ever returning to back them up - and no I am not talking about buzzy. His point is, that perhaps you don't realise it, perhaps you don't live in Europe, or you've never traveled there - or perhaps you just have your head up your ass, but the EU isn't particularly popular among a lot of Western Europeans (particularly) for the way it conducts itself and does pretty much what it pleases, completely ignoring the people of Europe.

It may not collapse anytime soon, and the power-base may prevent it from occurring, but the EU is a fucking joke. The common market place isn't a bad idea, but it is the super-state they are trying to build along with it that is the problem - and people aren't too happy with it.

The EU is the NWO you idiot (and I reserve that insult particularly for you).

I never thought I would be agreeing with you and Buzzy on something but you are absolutely correct about this. The EU is a undemocratic nightmare that is completely disconnected with the people in Europe. It could not win a popular vote in a single EU country at this point. The common market was a fine idea but the current form of EU super state is a catastrophe.

What does that have to do with anything I wrote?

Buzzy claimed the EU had Switzerland vote five times on something, and I'd like to know what that might have been - and how the EU 'made' a non-member state vote on anything in the first place.

I'm living in the EU btw.

So much for presumptuous idiots.

PMSL at the Telegraph's website being used as a source of anti-EU "fact".

For those outside the UK, the telegraph is probably our most right wing, anti-EU piece of shit paper we make.

It's hardly a surprise that they think this.

Get some links from The Guardian that agree with it, and I might listen.

doubtful.. but whatever

Let me guess, you're not very bright, are you?

Here you go:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...globaleconomy1

LOL

good one!

History has a funny way of repeating itself

thats what I wanted to say..

Look at the end of 80s and beginning of 90s, all European federations got fucked and split..

why the fuck would anyone think this funny "group" is going to stay.. I only agree its not going to happen in 5 years but later for sure.

..and personally I am looking for it as the whole EU is bullshit to me. There arent any advantages of it for me.

We have to support idiots in EU parliament making $30k a month, for what purpose?

I think this would not happen...

Won't Happen. Our stranglehold on Europe is firm.

I keep the EU together by the might of my cock! word

should I paint it blue and srpinkle a few stars on it?

EU lives, dollar goes into coma... (my 2009 prediction)

what euro federation did we have in the 80s that was the same size and construction as the EU now? maybe I missed that part

I am talking about federations in general, EU is just another group, another way to unite which is stupid IMHO and useles for me and for most people I know.

Talking about "unions" in 80s... how about Comecon? (Council for Mutual Economic Assistance) I was actually bigger than EU btw.

federations:

- Russian federation
- Yugoslavia
- Czechoslovakia

..big unions wont last, not those that unite different states, different culture, different languages, different religions and different people, thats it.

You are missing a lot.

I`m not sure about this

I mean USSR, not RF which is acutally still going but as you can see the case of Chechnya well..

Im sure youre referring to the European Part of the former Russian Fed.

I can tell you that 99% of the west europeans see Russia as a non european country, then as well. And tbh the Russian Fed was in a different time with a lot of different problems then the EU is now. People VOTE to be a part of the EU now, the Russian Fed was just put together by politics that noone could say no to.

There are always ppl whos glass is half empty, you seem to be one of them. Im sorry that you feel misjudged and off worse by these unions, its a part of history and no matter what you think theyll be there.

Oh and I am more aware of the whole situation then youll understand.

I'm counting on it :thumbsup:thumbsup

I corrected myself, I was referring to the former USSR, which was a big part of Europe:
Ukrajine, Belarus, Russia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldavia.. I am sorry to tell you that most important part of USSR were always European and still is in Russian federation.
So forget asia. Russian federation is not USSR.

No. European Economic Community was established in 1958 and it was a parent of EU.
Once again Russian federation is not USSR, sorry you are misinformed.

People voted for communists in Czechoslovakia, people supported communists in Russia so you are just wrong.. communists were popular in Russia at the end of WW1.. people believed them to make their social situation better.

Anyway I was referring mainly to Comecon which was similiar to EU and it got fucked just as the whole USSR empire got.

EU will be the next one just as soon as people realise that it steals their nationality and dictates them their own rules. Just a matter of time. I will be happy to see it go.

.... so?

It ain't gonna happen. Word.
Yeah, there are diff. cultures, languages, etc etc. Roman Empire lasted 400 years, although it had the same issues.

But yeah, a single language could be nice..

Didn't happen... and won't happen.
They'll find a way. There is nothing to go back to.