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aico 11-01-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPimpCash (Post 14989221)
This wasnt them paying western union via their bank, I didnt even know this was possible... it was infact them going into a western union outlet and either paying with cash or credit card...

Westernunion.com you can send payments via CC. My bank won't let me use my CC at the outlet either, has to be cash.

BigPimpCash 11-01-2008 04:40 PM

Yep Agree...
 
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Originally Posted by aico (Post 14989322)
Westernunion.com you can send payments via CC. My bank won't let me use my CC at the outlet either, has to be cash.

I guess money speaks :winkwink: definetly the best way to make sure its sent... maybe that was the problem they were mostly trying to send it via Credit Card... but they said money was in bank so if it kept failing surely the logical thing to do is get the money out the bank and pay it lol

d-null 11-01-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPimpCash (Post 14989221)
This wasnt them paying western union via their bank, I didnt even know this was possible... it was infact them going into a western union outlet and either paying with cash or credit card...

you might be getting jerked around here, but I wanted to say that it happened to me once trying to send money by western union and they refused me saying that they had suspicions that it could be money laundering (which it wasn't).... I got really pissed off but the dumbass manager wouldn't budge on it

so it is slightly possible that they are telling you the truth

(I've used Western Union many many times but had that refusal happen once)

Ron Bennett 11-01-2008 05:20 PM

Forget Western Union / MoneyGram.

Have the company send you a bank wire for the amount due.

Provide them with your bank account name, SWIFT routing code, bank account number, and bank address. With that info, wiring you the money should be a cinch...

And they'll likely save money over using Western Union - most U.S. banks charge a flat $20 to $40 for outgoing international bank wires regardless of amount.

Western Union (and probably similar for MoneyGram) has a $2900 limit for some countries, plus as many have pointed out already, funding such transfers can be problematic due to fraud screening.

Ron

Greg MissionD 11-01-2008 05:24 PM

If they had sent it via W/U you would have a control number from them.
Even if there were limits W/U inform the sender..

Never had a problem with W/U here, they have always worked out well

BigPimpCash 11-01-2008 05:35 PM

Hmmm...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 14989478)
Forget Western Union / MoneyGram.

Have the company send you a bank wire for the amount due.

Provide them with your bank account name, SWIFT routing code, bank account number, and bank address. With that info, wiring you the money should be a cinch...

And they'll likely save money over using Western Union - most U.S. banks charge a flat $20 to $40 for outgoing international bank wires regardless of amount.

Western Union (and probably similar for MoneyGram) has a $2900 limit for some countries, plus as many have pointed out already, funding such transfers can be problematic due to fraud screening.

Ron

This was done originally... but they had problems with their bank... then they got a new bank and tried sending it again but no joy... only then did they try the other payment methods...

Ron Bennett 11-01-2008 05:57 PM

Sounds like they don't have the money. And yet you mentioned they'd already paid you a large chunk before.

Either they have the worst luck or more likely their financial situation has dramatically changed lately.

Try to have them send you a lesser amount, like $2500 now and the remainder next month or something like that.

On a related topic, if the renig on paying you the reminder, they DON'T automatically get their money back ... so don't even worry about that. Especially, since you indicate that you've provided them with much of the product they paid for already.

And anyways, IMHO, for them to sue you and actually collect, even on a default judgement, since you're in the U.K, would likely cost them more than what they owe you.

Don't sweat it - just keep tossing the ball back into their court - nothing to discuss - they simply need to make the required payments.

Good luck.

Ron

BigPimpCash 11-01-2008 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 14989634)
Sounds like they don't have the money. And yet you mentioned they'd already paid you a large chunk before.

Either they have the worst luck or more likely their financial situation has dramatically changed lately.

Try to have them send you a lesser amount, like $2500 now and the remainder next month or something like that.

On a related topic, if the renig on paying you the reminder, they DON'T automatically get their money back ... so don't even worry about that. Especially, since you indicate that you've provided them with much of the product they paid for already.

And anyways, IMHO, for them to sue you and actually collect, even on a default judgement, since you're in the U.K, would likely cost them more than what they owe you.

Don't sweat it - just keep tossing the ball back into their court - nothing to discuss - they simply need to make the required payments.

Good luck.

Ron

Hey Ron... not sure what you mean by "since you indicate that you've provided them with much of the product they paid for already."

I havent infact gave them much of the product due to how the initial payments went... they wanted the product but I refused due to the inability to get me the money as agreed...

Bottom line I dont see how any court either side of the pond would rule in their favour... every part of the agreement was broken by them... no it wasnt a writen contract, more a gentlemans agreement... one I am trying to get the other gentleman to honour :) I am sure we will wrap this up this week and put it to rest once and for all... fingers crossed :)

LiveDose 11-01-2008 06:52 PM

If they have paid 29K it definitely seems like they are just dragging their feet until they have the funds. The idea though that the deal can be cancelled because they don't finish paying and get all of their funds back would be a little disturbing to me...

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HorseShit 11-01-2008 07:24 PM

every time I do a WU I get a phone call from them asking if it's fraudulent or not, it's gay

BigPimpCash 11-01-2008 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 14990099)
If they have paid 29K it definitely seems like they are just dragging their feet until they have the funds. The idea though that the deal can be cancelled because they don't finish paying and get all of their funds back would be a little disturbing to me...

Yep thats what I reckon just frustrating it's taking forever :) Keeping my fingers crossed it will be resolved this week for sure...

rowan 11-01-2008 10:27 PM

Sounds like you're being shafted.

Perhaps suggest one more time that they pay your local friend, then take further action if they conveniently "ignore" this again.

I'm guessing you're treading lightly because you're concerned you may not see the $, but at this stage it's looking pretty doubtful anyway... GFY court may end up being more effective, particularly if they're known here.

Mutt 11-01-2008 10:37 PM

it has to be that they are having cashflow problems and using these excuses to cover up that - because they only owe you 5K left - I am sure they know that if they don't come up with the remaining 5K that you won't willingly refund their money - it will cost them more than 5K and more headaches to pursue you legally over in the UK. so it's far better for them to pay you the 5K - which makes me think they just don't have it to give you. tell them to send you half now and half next month.

BigPimpCash 11-01-2008 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 14990961)
Sounds like you're being shafted.

Perhaps suggest one more time that they pay your local friend, then take further action if they conveniently "ignore" this again.

I'm guessing you're treading lightly because you're concerned you may not see the $, but at this stage it's looking pretty doubtful anyway... GFY court may end up being more effective, particularly if they're known here.

Yes I try and avoid drama where I can... it wasnt my original intention to name and shame... I'm hoping to get it resolved this week and move on...

They have agreed to meet my friend and give him the money to get to me... so I will give them till Friday to do so... think thats fair enough when they tell me the money isnt a issue and live in the same city :)

asl 01-13-2009 01:24 PM

Bump for some info. Have you been paid now ?

Looks like the same company is doing the same with me right now ...

The Heron 01-13-2009 02:09 PM

You know what usually works... A COMPANY CHECK sent via usps/fedex.

Broda 01-13-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by asl (Post 15322103)
Bump for some info. Have you been paid now ?

Looks like the same company is doing the same with me right now ...

Which company are we talking about?

Broda 01-13-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Heron (Post 15322216)
You know what usually works... A COMPANY CHECK sent via usps/fedex.

You must mean "cashiers check" :)
A company check isn't all that safe. Stop-payment on them is just the click of a button; up to years after it's been deposited, even.

asl 01-13-2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Heron (Post 15322216)
You know what usually works... A COMPANY CHECK sent via usps/fedex.

Oh yeah I tried that. But the check was lost and no usps tracking number was available :error

munki 01-13-2009 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14987584)
Yes, that is the thing with banks . . . they won't let you send wires for more than your account balance.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

collegeboobies 01-13-2009 03:13 PM

Old ass thread


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