bump for awe

maybe we will just forget about it?

U wish !

bump for my new sig :1orglaugh

anybody else here have good cam programs that make them money and not shitty to the ones who send them traffic? please post here and if im not signed up , i'll sign up under u

We don't .

I had just 'adjusted' my sig too! :1orglaugh

no no no, I have a difficult time making my sarcasm convey in text.

kool hehe i just signed up under you for webcams.com ... it any good?

yes, but definitely use revshare. btw, thanks!

i will also keep this bumped for AWE

Thank you very much :)

damn, i just stained my carpet to a 40 minute group sex video on livesex .com

do you get this on your affil links or just when you go to the main page with no ref code ?

because i dont seem to see the popunder on my affil links

i might just be sleepy though

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http://www.livejasmin.com/freechat.p...am&pstool=15_2

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Lol i suppose you don't know about the tricks they do/did.

They have to do this to sponsor the show in january at internext

even when you do send on affiliate link and not see the popup, you still will loose the client to re-catch it again cause after 14 days, he still is on the livejasmin domain, giving the next amounts of rev share to livesex. And this in PPS status, so you loose your spender forever.

If they would not have placed it, a discussion like this is not needed
They did placed it, so they must have some sort of a motivation to do this.
It is up to the affiliates to guess what this motivation is

i cant seem to see this popup code on any of my affil links, can anyone else ?

i dont quite follow, how does the surfer see livesex.com if theres no popup or links to it from my affil links ?

probably they will use the BOOKMARK button on the live chat rooms, saving the url livejasmin.com. and revisit after a few weeks or months the site again, cause it has a 14 day cookie, it does NOT mean they spend within the 14 days ofcourse

So when he comes back on day 15 to livejasmin(d0t)com and he used his bookmarks for this, he will see it. Then... just read on.... a pop-up will come, and they see the tube site with extreme long free movies. From there they see the livejasmin links again on a PPS status, ones they spend there, Livesex account gets 40$ one time, and thats it. This client will not be able to create revenue for you anymore.

Again a 14 day cookie does not say they spend it all in 14 days.

This whole system is hurting those who are not able to create to much bookmark traffic on their own domains.

Again, they should not place it at all, they are way to big and successful to use these kind of marketing ways.

Conclusion, another door is closed for the affiliates to create a recurring revenue, despite the 14 day cookie. The more doors being closed, the stupider this whole thing becomes. And if i was wrong, there would be not even a pop-under to a bookmark tube site. But unfortunately i am not wrong, it`s there, it has a reason.

Why bite the hands that feed you.

AWE are the shadiest mofos in the cam business if you ask me. We had sooooo many issues with them using stolen content from our sites etc and more. When confronted, they like to play the avoidence game until you threaten em w/ legal action.

If you're looking for hardcore cams, definitely work with Dwreck.

i dont even see a bookmark button, but if they bookmark with your ref code it doesnt matter much , the cookies arent overwritten so if they visit your ref code first then your ref code is set for 14 more days. The whole 14 day cookie things has been rehashed about a million times , i dont think they are going to change it anytime soon.

The guts of this thread is about popunders, i dont see any popunders on my links, if all they have is a popunder on their own main typein domain then i wouldnt worry much.

But then again i could just be missing the end result . I do understand the direction you are trying to go with this , just not sure if it's as bad as you think

Tried it with him, gave it up.

See, on the other hand, they could CUT themselves in the fingers. When people type in the domain and see a pop-under, they might think THIS SITE SUCKS, and go back to your links again.

I have no direction in this thread, i am more doubting the presence of a popup on a non revs link, going to a PPS sponsor account. PPS means, never able to become revs again, or be able to make for a webmaster who sends him ( again ) a recurring sale

Yes the bookmark link is there, its a non revs bookmark button on the free live chat pages. Certain campaign pages have also NO bookmark link. The some older campaign pages have

what the hell is happening, it looks like every sponsor is trying to fuck us with all these cross sales and now this.

because you have chopped liver and theres a hand right behind yours with filet mignon :winkwink:

but seriously , unless i am missing something this is very very minor, from the way the thread started you would think they are doing popunders on affil links.

If a surfer signs up thru your affil link then comes back 3 days later and buys credits after manually typing in livejasmin your cookie is not overwritten thus any popups would also not overwrite your cookie , i.e. you still get credit.

If a surfer came back 20 days later and manually typed in livejasmin , you wouldnt get paid anyways because your ref code is overwritten after 14 days.

So unless i am missing something you dont lose anything . i could be totally wrong about this , but please explain further


edit: ok i think i see the leak , you are saying if surfer comes back 20 days later manually types in the domain they would get pps cookie and thus if they then went back to your site another 15 days later and bought credits under your ref code you wouldnt get anything because they are now pps. This i suppose is true but cmon now thats a bit far fetched.. represents such a small amount, for all we know a pps cookie wil always overwrite revshare cookies anyways

um you are wrong, they have a link right at the top that says live webcams. and as soon as a webmasters client clicks on it and then buys a show, they get taken away from the rev share pool and nobody can make money from them again and awe gets the whole % from them for life and not the webmaster. its very bad, esp when all you get is a 14 day cookie in the 1st place.

from what i am starting to learn and see, is there any adult programs out there that u can trust? or all of them just fucking all the smaller webmasters out of their traffic?

And after these 20 days then the surfer is "clear" he gets livesex pupup and gets PPS cookie set and thats the end, no more chance to earn from that surfer. As PPS is forever, even if he will delete the cookie its also tracked by username.

The fact your missing is that this pop-under is a Pay Per Sale Account.
This eliminates every option to CATCH this client again after some time to gain again a 14 day revenue. So slow but with certain moves the pool with fresh fish is re-generated into PPS clients, not giving any webmaster an option to gain more revenue.

PPS sales are end of the revenue party.

I guess I don't.. fill me in.

I already stop to promote awe.

if they dont respond soon to this or do something for their webmasters that got screwed out of their loyal clients who keep buying cam shows, and give credit back, i'll stop sending all of my cam traffic to them.

i dont know either, can u shed some light on this company please? i dont want to send traffic to some shitty as company thats just going to screw me over.

wrong about what exactly ?

a link right at the top of what ?

a link on the top of their own site without my ref code ?

my links don't do this.


no there isn't :)
never trust anyone you can't hit with a hammer

NeonCams have a "clean history".You may check it out as well.

Anyway,with this shit and garbage tubesite with 24 long movies,AWE shotself in his leg and now bleeding.

BUMP BUMP BUMP

its their site with their refcode not yours, they choose to go pps, i dont see how this is any different than competing against another webmaster promoting pps. If someone like choker used his traffic and forced pps cookies on people he would do much more harm than awe doing it on their front page on a popunder that you need to click to set cookie.

I would like to hear a bit more about the cookie details though like does a pps cookie write over a revshare cookie instantly or only if the cookie is free, it does make a difference

Here is how it works in a nutshell.

Their REV SHARE is 14 day cookie, NOT for life

Their PPS is 40$ and nobody can make money from that user again !!!!

If i am sending my traffic to livejas and one of my clients hit their popunder and go to their stupid little tube site, and click on live webcams at the top, then i lost my loyal client for ever!!!

The way they have it set up is perfect for anybody in this business who knows how to make good websites and keep their traffic on their sites only! You can make a killing with little traffic. My ratio was 1:90 for the longest, untill about the time this new tube site was up " i went back and checked stats" then my sales started to drop month by month.

care to share?