Yes I do, I'm very familiar with him. I'm comparing the arguments being made.

Don't see how that matters. You can't control your attractions, just as I can't control the fact I'm attracted to tall brunettes.

I guess. Not sure what modern Islam has to do with this discussion though.

People were also frightened to have their kids share a classroom with a black student. People were frightened when women were able to step into polling place and vote. Ignorance and the ability to scare easy are not good arguments for discrimination.

So your solution is separate but equal? Didn't we go down that path before?

If marriage is only about having children, shouldn't we revoke licenses for all those who are unable to have children? Also refuse to marry anyone who doesn't want children. We should also void the marriage license of those over 50 years old as they are unlikely to be able to have children.

I mean if marriage is there because of babies, we should not allow people to be married who choose or are unable to have them. Correct?

No one said a black man couldn't be black, just that he wasn't allowed to marry a white woman because marriage is between the same race.

what do you think about him? I find him pretty refreshing at times..

He's unique. I think his thoughts on race and culture are fascinating, and he has some completely different perspectives. He is just an impressive mind.

My issue with him is that he sometimes gets caught up in the partisan crap. He can write an amazing essay on a topic that really makes you think and then ruins it by taking some political or idealogical jab. It just seems that's unnecessary, especially from such a great mind.

I'd recommend Black Rednecks, White Liberals if you're interested in cultures. It more or less says that black culture is really old redneck culture. Really interesting read.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Rednecks.../dp/1594030863

If you are a big furniture-fetishist and want to be considered married to a dinette set, I don't see the benefits because it is not my thing, but it's no skin off my ass if you do it.

Also, I'm kind of appalled that any businessperson believes there is a tax benefit to getting married. You only get a tax break for being married if the person you are marrying makes less money than you do. Otherwise, married people pay more in taxes. If homosexual marriages were federally recognized, the US government would collect more in taxes and not less.

We better be careful trying to intelligently discuss the actual ideas and not degenerating to name-calling or we might get our GFY cards revoked :winkwink:

The parades that annoy me are those mass bicycle rides where they make tons of noise in residential neighborhoods, pee on people's lawns, and someone riding by always has to kick my car or hit it with a stick.

Probably true. We may never know the real vote because of this. It will probably pass next time around if queers can keep their attitudes in check. (oh I can just hear you fuming as I type)

Sort of like the best solution to not getting raped is to just take it up the ass and get it over with? Where do you live? I think we need to meet for coffee - I will bring my hancuffs and a shovel to bury the body. ;-)

I've read that, and conquest and culture. some very refreshing thoughts and intuition. I haven't read anything I feel is totally off key. I'm pretty good with the 'people and reasons' are but really lack in political areas..

This thread is irratating

yeah the bike stuff sucks too, so does the LA marathon :(

Okay, you haven't made the slightest case for how what you just said had anything to do with anything I posted. Did you just threaten to rape and murder me because I pointed out that it is single people, not married people, who are most likely to march flamboyantly in parades? That issue is that violently important to you? You threatening me like that is beyond creepy and probably a bannable post. In civilized society, intelligent grown-ups can discuss an issue, not agree on it, and not have to murder each other. You know felons can't vote, right?

Oh, I thought you would like it. I thought you were inviting me to a party ;-)

If your parents' house was a polling place, then I'm really wondering whether the ballots were handled properly.