Facebook Wins $873 Million Judgment Against Spammer

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  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
    • 42635

    #1

    Facebook Wins $873 Million Judgment Against Spammer

    November 24, 2008 03:22 PM

    Facebook on Friday won $873 million in damages from a spammer, the largest award to date under the 2003 Can-Spam Act.

    The penalty for illegal spamming appears to be rising. Facebook's award tops the $234 million judgment won by MySpace in May against Sanford Wallace and Walter Rines. It also exceeds the $177,500 fine and $1.1 million ill-gotten-gain forfeiture that Jeffrey Kilbride and James Schaffer were ordered to pay in October 2007 for the pair's porn spam operation.

    "We've all experienced spam -- those unwanted and, sometimes, inappropriate marketing messages," said Facebook director of security Max Kelly and deputy general counsel Mark Howitson in an e-mailed statement. "The bad guys behind those messages are always looking to find new ways to annoy people and Facebook's users have been among those targeted. We don't take this affront to our users lying down."

    U.S. District Judge Jeremy Fogel handed down the award last week following four months of litigation. In addition to the monetary judgment, the ruling prohibits the defendants, Adam Guerbuez and his company, Atlantis Blue Capital, from accessing Facebook for any reason or assisting others in doing so.

    Kelly and Howitson acknowledge that it's doubtful Facebook will be able to collect the full judgment. "It's unlikely that Guerbuez and Atlantis Blue Capital could ever honor the judgment rendered against them (though we will certainly collect everything we can)," their joint statement says. "But we are confident that this award represents a powerful deterrent to anyone and everyone who would seek to abuse Facebook and its users."

    Like Wallace and Rines in the MySpace spam case, Guerbuez didn't show up in court. "We are going to go after him," said Sam O'Rourke, senior corporate counsel for Facebook, in a phone interview. "We know where he is and we're in the process of executing the judgment."

    According to the complaint that Facebook filed in August, Guerbuez, a Canadian citizen and resident of Montreal, is the sole owner of Atlantis Capital Blue, a business entity listed in Internet domain registration data to be in Panama City, Panama.

    The complaint names 25 unknown defendants, or "John Does." But O'Rourke said that this is a standard practice, in case additional people are implicated. In this instance, he said that Facebook doesn't expect to charge additional people.

    Between March and April, Guerbuez sent more than 4 million spam messages to Facebook users, the complaint states. He allegedly did so by stealing Facebook users' logon details using phishing messages and through data obtained from third parties. He then allegedly used botnets to spam Facebook users' message posting pages, or Walls, with messages from the hijacked accounts of spam recipients' Facebook friends.

    Unlike e-mail spam, which is generally viewed and/or deleted in private, social networking spam may have social repercussions. The Wall-post spam was visible to anyone viewing an affected Facebook profile, and appeared to be endorsed by the account owner and the friend who posted it.

    People may believe spam messages on Facebook are more credible when they appear to come from a friend, O'Rourke acknowledged. "In that sense, just because Facebook does provide for interaction, it can be more damaging," he said.

    "The spam promoted numerous products and Web sites that, on information and belief, are offensive and embarrassing to [spam recipients and the owners of hijacked accounts that sent the spam]," the complaint explains. "The products marketed by these spam messages included marijuana, male enhancement pills, and sexually oriented material."

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  • qwe
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 2109

    #2
    he put his company name under his domain whois
    Last edited by qwe; 11-24-2008, 12:27 PM.

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    • StuartD
      Sofa King Band
      • Jul 2002
      • 29903

      #3
      Do they really have that much money to give though?
      This is me on facebook
      This is me on twitter

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      • mizmiz
        So Fucking Banned
        • May 2002
        • 1168

        #4
        how much did he make from the spam?

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        • gornyhuy
          Chafed.
          • May 2002
          • 18041

          #5
          Talk about making an example of someone!

          icq:159548293

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          • brand0n
            been very busy
            • Nov 2002
            • 26983

            #6
            i just dont get how this is covered in can-spam when they didnt send 1 single email?
            want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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            • Barefootsies
              Choice is an Illusion
              • Feb 2005
              • 42635

              #7
              Originally posted by gornyhuy
              Talk about making an example of someone!
              aka... sweet justice.
              Should You Email Your Members?

              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

              Enough Said.

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              • Trixxxia
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2004
                • 5600

                #8
                Someone that used to post here?

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                • BlackCrayon
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 19634

                  #9
                  all the craiglist spammers better becareful. spam is spam apparently.
                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                  • Agent 488
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 22511

                    #10
                    CAN-SPAM defines a "commercial electronic mail message" as "any electronic mail message the primary purpose of which is the commercial advertisement or promotion of a commercial product or service (including content on an Internet website operated for a commercial purpose)."

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN-SPAM_Act_of_2003

                    a "commercial electronic mail message" leaves lots of leeway ....

                    just a matter of time before youtube spammers get sunk too ....

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                    • brassmonkey
                      Pay It Forward
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 77396

                      #11
                      damn sounds like he was extra paid
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                      • Barefootsies
                        Choice is an Illusion
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 42635

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                        all the craiglist spammers better becareful. spam is spam apparently.
                        Originally posted by budsbabes
                        just a matter of time before youtube spammers get sunk too ....
                        Which will ALSO be known as.... sweet justice.
                        Should You Email Your Members?

                        Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                        Enough Said.

                        "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                        • WiredGuy
                          Pounding Googlebot
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 34512

                          #13
                          I'd expect a lot of social networks to be beefing up their litigation teams as a result of this. When revenues are down, time to step up new sources of income.
                          WG
                          I play with Google.

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                          • James124
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 261

                            #14
                            Originally posted by WiredGuy
                            I'd expect a lot of social networks to be beefing up their litigation teams as a result of this. When revenues are down, time to step up new sources of income.
                            WG
                            I don't see that as ever being profitable... chasing spammers around, I mean
                            Last edited by James124; 11-24-2008, 01:45 PM. Reason: buu

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                            • WiredGuy
                              Pounding Googlebot
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 34512

                              #15
                              Originally posted by James124
                              I don't see that as ever being profitable... chasing spammers around, I mean
                              A lot of law firms will work on contingency, no cost to the site in question.
                              WG
                              I play with Google.

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                              • Supz
                                Arthur Flegenheimer
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 11057

                                #16
                                Originally posted by StuartD
                                Do they really have that much money to give though?
                                it says in the article they doubt they will get all that money, but they will go after him for whatever they can,

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