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RevShare it! 11-25-2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15105122)
Yes we are working with tube sites. It is a decision we made as a company and I'm not going to deny it. I'm running a business and I have to make decisions that are best for my business. That is why my affiliates trust me with their traffic. They know the decisions I make will not only ensure I keep paying them on time monthly but our decisions also allow us to be one of the best at monetizing our affiliates traffic for them.

Great, atleast you are not denying that you pay youporn & tube8 to advertise your sites there.

But I do think those affiliates that trust you wont so much when they begin to learn of that.

Thank you for supporting them :thumbsup


So MB you have some more sponsors to add to that list I mentioned.

RevShare it! 11-25-2008 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 15105559)
someone needs to kick them in the nuts at a show

Not going to happen, your favorite standup guys were the same ones kissing ass of all the illegal site owners just last week in LA. And not talking about just illegal tube sites, other illegal sites as well. They were all there in full force. why do you think shaap posted how much biz he got done there. hahahh

RevShare it! 11-25-2008 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15105507)

They do it to us all the time.

Fuck those guys.

then whyy do you continue to promote them on your sites and snd them traffic ??

fuzebox 11-25-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mb (Post 15104015)
I would think anything with a watermark should be tossed...

I know all my watermarked videos didn't get approved :1orglaugh

d-null 11-25-2008 07:19 PM

there are alot of programs to choose from, and many convert more or less the same, so it is smart to drop the ones that are jumping in bed with the shit

tony286 11-25-2008 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RevShare it! (Post 15105702)
Not going to happen, your favorite standup guys were the same ones kissing ass of all the illegal site owners just last week in LA. And not talking about just illegal tube sites, other illegal sites as well. They were all there in full force. why do you think shaap posted how much biz he got done there. hahahh

its sad and very short sighted.

RevShare it! 11-25-2008 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15105725)
I know all my watermarked videos didn't get approved :1orglaugh

Its tough to get listed on tube sites, they mainly only post what themselves add.

meanwhile most people think that yea surfers sit their all day downloading long ass vids then sitting and uploading them for nothing, ironically the same person who is funding these is the one saying that. wrong, its the tube themselves uploading contentt. I know that for a fact manyy of teh largest tubes have hired cheap labor handling their updates.

Qbert 11-25-2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 15105559)
someone needs to kick them in the nuts at a show

Or perhaps a one way trip to the Everglades to visit the gators during Internext Miami.

...just brainstorming out loud here...

RevShare it! 11-25-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15105726)
there are alot of programs to choose from, and many convert more or less the same, so it is smart to drop the ones that are jumping in bed with the shit

BINGO. Somone has to make a list of the ones who advertise or are behind these illegal tubes. here are some that I belive are:
1. Shaap/Twstys & Nexxtdoorcash (shap posted in this thread that yes he does advertise on tubes like youporn/tube8 and its because thats what his affiliates that trust him want).
2. Pythn/ce you can find their ads all over tubes.
3. brzzers / movbox / sexinurcity, well no explanation needed there hahaha.
4. archivedcash / nichpay and all their other sites. Just look for their links on tube8.
5. hahaha / raagecash etc, see them on tube8.
6. AFF
7. sexsrch
8. naughtyamerican on youporn
9. tiffanyscash on youporn
10. pimprolls buys xsells from pornhub premium.

who else am I missing?

enjoy this vid for now: http://youporn.com/watch/267186/dirt...ing-her-pussy/

Klen 11-25-2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RevShare it! (Post 15105789)
BINGO. Somone has to make a list of the ones who advertise or are behind these illegal tubes. here are some that I belive are:
1. Shaap/Twstys & Nexxtdoorcash (shap posted in this thread that yes he does advertise on tubes like youporn/tube8 and its because thats what his affiliates that trust him want).
2. Pythn/ce you can find their ads all over tubes.
3. brzzers / movbox / sexinurcity, well no explanation needed there hahaha.
4. archivedcash / nichpay and all their other sites. Just look for their links on tube8.
5. hahaha / raagecash etc, see them on tube8.
6. AFF
7. sexsrch
8. naughtyamerican was on youporn the last time I checked.
9. tiffanyscash on youporn
10. pmprolls buys xsells from pornhub premium.

who else am I missing?

Someone said pimproll also have ads on pornhub,but didnt notice that yet.Take a look there.

RevShare it! 11-25-2008 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 15105799)
Someone said pimproll also have ads on pornhub,but didnt notice that yet.Take a look there.

you missed #10

Barefootsies 11-25-2008 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15103939)
man that "user" who uploads all that shit must have some connection.

:1orglaugh:disgust:Oh crap:helpme

RevShare it! 11-25-2008 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RevShare it! (Post 15105789)
BINGO. Somone has to make a list of the ones who advertise or are behind these illegal tubes. here are some that I belive are:
1. Shaap/Twstys & Nexxtdoorcash (shap posted in this thread that yes he does advertise on tubes like youporn/tube8 and its because thats what his affiliates that trust him want).
2. Pythn/ce you can find their ads all over tubes.
3. brzzers / movbox / sexinurcity, well no explanation needed there hahaha.
4. archivedcash / nichpay and all their other sites. Just look for their links on tube8.
5. hahaha / raagecash etc, see them on tube8.
6. AFF
7. sexsrch
8. naughtyamerican on youporn
9. tiffanyscash on youporn
10. pimprolls buys xsells from pornhub premium.

who else am I missing?

enjoy this vid for now: http://youporn.com/watch/267186/dirt...ing-her-pussy/

Of course many are doing this for their affiliates hahaha thannk you dude :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15105122)
Yes we are working with tube sites. It is a decision we made as a company and I'm not going to deny it. I'm running a business and I have to make decisions that are best for my business. That is why my affiliates trust me with their traffic. They know the decisions I make will not only ensure I keep paying them on time monthly but our decisions also allow us to be one of the best at monetizing our affiliates traffic for them.

for page 2

Klen 11-25-2008 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RevShare it! (Post 15105806)
you missed #10

Ah yes indeed i am toosleepy

Barefootsies 11-25-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SiMpLe (Post 15104590)
OMG come on - I had a 30min convo with Bostone in Amsterdam about my shit and he swore up and down he would take care of the problem. Even shoke his hand and thanked him...

To this day I find my scenes on ALL thier tubes even with my watermark. They are a real class act :thumbsup

Did he buy you a bro drink at brovention and sing bro carols?

Pleasurepays 11-25-2008 08:35 PM

wonder how many people have to be victimized before a single fucking idiot in this biz actually makes a serious effort to protect their rights and their content?

mb 11-25-2008 08:37 PM

Of course all of the MovieRoom vids have been removed...

Seems like posting in a public forum may be a good way to get things to stop... I have a feeling my stuff might not be ripped down for a while now.

marc

minusonenut 11-25-2008 08:42 PM

mb you just proved they monitored the network.

RevShare it! 11-25-2008 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mb (Post 15105993)
Of course all of the MovieRoom vids have been removed...

Seems like posting in a public forum may be a good way to get things to stop... I have a feeling my stuff might not be ripped down for a while now.

marc


http://www.keezmovies.com/422656 is that yours?

And is it back to biz as normal now? You will keep promoting them?

Robbie 11-25-2008 09:30 PM

Guys, surfers DO upload constantly. You need to start googling up some forums.

Since I have claudia-marie.com I am VERY aware of the surfers uploading. Before I went to all streaming I used to spend hours everyday googling up big tit forums and finding my shit to write dmca's to. Now the guys at removeyourcontent.com do that for me to find any of my old stuff floating around.

And they can confirm to you that "yes" surfers DO upload tons of stuff and then get praised on the forums. It's an entire culture there.

At one point about 6 months ago it got so bad that my entire members area was all over the place. I could put up a new scene and the guys in these forums would be in a contest to see which idiot could upload it first. lol

Gotta admit, the illegitimate tube is a sweet deal. Surfers do all of your work for you and PAY you for the privilege.

I know you guys all have "theories" and "know for a fact" how the tubes do it. But as a guy who knows his niche and writes, shoots, directs, edits, uploads, and updates claudia-marie.com I KNOW how my shit got out there. And it wasn't from piratebay hiring somebody from the phillipines. It was guys joining the site with their ONLY purpose being to download for their other buddies in the big tit forums.

Now that I'm encrypted streaming only...I still go out and keep my eyes open on the forums. And I see them bitching about it.

I'll get a member who will join and IMMEDIATELY write me demanding his money back because he can't download the entire site. I give them their credit back and send them on their way.

They weren't ever gonna be a "real" member of the site and/or rebill. They simply wanted to grab everything I have and upload it.

Don't underestimate the power of the "communities" these guys have created on forums. If you don't believe in it, just look right here at GFY. Look at how many people get totally bent out of shape and crazy over what a bunch of people say on a message board.

It's the same kinda powerful thing on those forums. Try it yourself. Google up some big tit, or interracial, or milf, or latina, or any niche you can think of forums and/or message boards and you'll get your eyes opened.

Shap 11-25-2008 09:31 PM

Revshareit this is the second time you try to attack us regarding tubes on the board. Your first attempt fell flat.

Everybody has a choice where to send their traffic. If anybody is unhappy with the way I run TwistysCash then they are more than welcome to pull all their traffic and never do business with us again. We have the #1 Babe site online. Many have tried and all have failed to copy us. Besides Playboy there is nobody that has been able to do what we've done in our niche. We have the hottest content online, we convert and our members RETAIN like mad. I'm not forcing anyone to do business with us.

LeRoy 11-25-2008 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RevShare it! (Post 15106073)
http://www.keezmovies.com/422656 is that yours?

And is it back to biz as normal now? You will keep promoting them?

Ouch. Thats Kurtov or Kurt he runs or owns Keez...

Aussie Rebel 11-25-2008 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15103941)
You might want to have a look at the Remove My Content service.

Thanks WarChild :thumbsup

Karupted Charles 11-25-2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RevShare it! (Post 15105789)
BINGO. Somone has to make a list of the ones who advertise or are behind these illegal tubes. here are some that I belive are:



who else am I missing?

11. Totem Cash. Who everyone tells me is a stand up guy but who blows off all my posts in his threads about this.

RevShare it! 11-25-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15106144)
Revshareit this is the second time you try to attack us regarding tubes on the board. Your first attempt fell flat.

Everybody has a choice where to send their traffic. If anybody is unhappy with the way I run TwistysCash then they are more than welcome to pull all their traffic and never do business with us again. We have the #1 Babe site online. Many have tried and all have failed to copy us. Besides Playboy there is nobody that has been able to do what we've done in our niche. We have the hottest content online, we convert and our members RETAIN like mad. I'm not forcing anyone to do business with us.

Not attacking. Just thanking you for supporting our local illegal tubes. :thumbsup
You are a standup top notch guy for doing that.

Unlike mediumpimpin.com who actually care about their affiliates. Or the many other babe sites who have the same models/same style content and less saturated than yours :1orglaugh

fris 11-25-2008 10:22 PM

i just took a huge dump

mb 11-26-2008 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 15106314)
i just took a huge dump


Fris, I tried to contact you... hit me up please

24142711

thanks,

marc

Jens Van Assterdam 11-26-2008 12:47 AM

Hell the whole warez scene lives from people uploading stuff for free. Just look at some surfer boards like warezbb and others. Do the admins upload all those 1,2gb movies to rapidshare and co? Its the users.. so everyone who denies massive user uploads to tubes just turns on a blind eye.

gideongallery 11-26-2008 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15103958)
Don't be fooled in to thinking that there's no actual users uploading huge movies. I know you think that just because you don't see the sense in doing it. Why would anyone upload stuff for no personal benefit. It seems like a logical argument, but in practice, people do it.

Sites like surfthechannel.com, or anyone of the thousands of copies have users uploading entire tv shows, edited to remove commercials, etc etc. No benefit for doing it, and yet they do it.

sure they do it called access shifting, when they upload such a video they can access it from anywhere they want. They can watch it at home, at work, just by opening a web browser and going to the site.

They can get rid of their locally stored copy and use that web stream as a back up for the video they paid for.

Torrents are the same way, seed to the swarm get rid of the local copy, if i ever want to watch it again, just reconnect to the swarm and recreate the file again.

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Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there aren't tube site owners doing it and pretending to be users. Of course there are, and it may just be that the majority of uploads come this way, but just don't doubt that there are some users doing it too. :2 cents:

i suspect that a lot of uploads are user uploads they are just replicated, a new tube site rips an existing tube sites content, keeps the usernames and uploads the same for the database (syndication) and starts from scratch accepting new submissions.

What was originally user uploads is replicated by the webmaster, it still meets all the conditions of the safe harbor provision so it still dmca protected act.

BVF 11-26-2008 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15105507)
MB...I disagree. Who the fuck uploads files that take hours to transfer and locking down their whole bandwidth pipe just because they feel the need to share their porn collection?

There's a black porn board with dudes DEDICATED to uploading porn...There's one thread that's over 150 pages long full of zshare links..He takes the video, RE-EDITS them so that it has his name and the title of the movie along with the scene number and actress....It's been up since 2005 and still being updated.....On that board, the dude is a LEGEND.....

He even has another long thread where he edits it to only show where the girl is really getting fucked hard or really enjoying it like having an orgasm....So I KNOW that there are others out there like this....

Pleasurepays 11-26-2008 06:28 AM

i can't believe you guys are actually arguing over whether or not surfers upload files.

some of you people are just so out of touch with humanity that its totally unreal.

d-null 11-26-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15107505)
There's a black porn board with dudes DEDICATED to uploading porn...There's one thread that's over 150 pages long full of zshare links..He takes the video, RE-EDITS them so that it has his name and the title of the movie along with the scene number and actress....It's been up since 2005 and still being updated.....On that board, the dude is a LEGEND.....

He even has another long thread where he edits it to only show where the girl is really getting fucked hard or really enjoying it like having an orgasm....So I KNOW that there are others out there like this....

should be easy to find that guy then and serve him :2 cents:

Robbie 11-26-2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15109278)
should be easy to find that guy then and serve him :2 cents:

He does get "served" everyday. Served a bunch of high fives and slaps on the back. And that guy is just one of thousands and thousands and thousand of guys doing it.

And "serving" someone means spending a nice chunk of change. My lawyer fucking charges me everytime I talk on the phone...and he charges me the minimum which is 30 minutes, even if it's a 2 minute talk.

Lawyers will end up costing you more than "serving" some guy who hasn't got any money to begin with. Best thing is to secure your content, and then hire removeyourcontent.com for a hundred bucks a month and problem solved.

You'd spend more money "serving" ONE guy in a day than you will securing your content and paying removeyourcontent.com in a year.

Simple business decision.

d-null 11-26-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15109312)
He does get "served" everyday. Served a bunch of high fives and slaps on the back. And that guy is just one of thousands and thousands and thousand of guys doing it.

And "serving" someone means spending a nice chunk of change. My lawyer fucking charges me everytime I talk on the phone...and he charges me the minimum which is 30 minutes, even if it's a 2 minute talk.

Lawyers will end up costing you more than "serving" some guy who hasn't got any money to begin with. Best thing is to secure your content, and then hire removeyourcontent.com for a hundred bucks a month and problem solved.

You'd spend more money "serving" ONE guy in a day than you will securing your content and paying removeyourcontent.com in a year.

Simple business decision.

agree with you to a point, but if some of the larger programs were to initiate some of these suits, it would send a strong message to the users and uploaders that they could find themselves facing court and the publicity that surrounds it

I'm sure that if some individuals were named, it would send shockwaves through the torrent and uploader communities, and you would see 99% of them not want to upload anymore :2 cents:

this is why stopping happily after a selfish dmca content removal request is successful doesn't really chip away at the problem at all, whereas some cut and dry lawsuits against the uploaders and torrent users would be huge :2 cents:

Eric 11-26-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 15104853)
If a couple of illegal tube site owners suddenly found themselves with bullet holes in their heads....do ya' think other illegal tube site owners would take notice? I'm just ask'n......that's all.....just ask'n!

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Originally Posted by Qbert (Post 15105755)
Or perhaps a one way trip to the Everglades to visit the gators during Internext Miami.

...just brainstorming out loud here...

I know these are not direct death threats, but sometimes the things we think in our heads should stay there. Carry on...

Rorschach 11-26-2008 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 15109443)
I know these are not direct death threats, but sometimes the things we think in our heads should stay there. Carry on...

Good job idiot... This was my way of playing nice and telling you guys to stick to business and leave these types of posts out of this thread.

Enjoy your vacation from GFY.

RogerV 11-26-2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jens Van Assterdam (Post 15106662)
Hell the whole warez scene lives from people uploading stuff for free. Just look at some surfer boards like warezbb and others. Do the admins upload all those 1,2gb movies to rapidshare and co? Its the users.. so everyone who denies massive user uploads to tubes just turns on a blind eye.

what does it have to do with anything. even if it is users the company should be monitoring uploads. if they dont and let them go then its there fault:2 cents:

BVF 11-26-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15109335)
agree with you to a point, but if some of the larger programs were to initiate some of these suits, it would send a strong message to the users and uploaders that they could find themselves facing court and the publicity that surrounds it

I'm sure that if some individuals were named, it would send shockwaves through the torrent and uploader communities, and you would see 99% of them not want to upload anymore :2 cents:

this is why stopping happily after a selfish dmca content removal request is successful doesn't really chip away at the problem at all, whereas some cut and dry lawsuits against the uploaders and torrent users would be huge :2 cents:

Well let me be more clear....Not only are large programs content ripped off, but DVD's are ripped and uploaded also....Plus they can get scenes from any of the "4000 DVD's for one price" sites and upload those also...More than likely the site they got ripped from didn't even produce the content themselves...

Jens Van Assterdam 11-26-2008 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerV (Post 15109640)
what does it have to do with anything. even if it is users the company should be monitoring uploads. if they dont and let them go then its there fault:2 cents:

If you had read the thread you would see xxxjay posts, claiming there arent users uploading stuff. Thats the response to it.

Originally Posted by xxxjay
MB...I disagree. Who the fuck uploads files that take hours to transfer and locking down their whole bandwidth pipe just because they feel the need to share their porn collection?

RogerV 11-26-2008 02:12 PM

if your in the tube business it is your responsiblity to not allow illegal uploads or full hardcore scenes. I dont understand why sponsors dont sue tube sites for it. they would win easy. and take everything.

if I catch my content on one trust me Its on..


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