Come on now, they all do drugs... you know it
She could have been a bit more discreet about it, that 's for sure...

Go do some more drugs druggie. I'll watch TV and anticipate seeing you snort 1 to many lines of coke and end up going on a rampage killing people.

You do that dork boy. :1orglaugh What a sheep you are, keep on believing govt. propaganda. :1orglaugh

Not even surprising anymore.

Yeah, knowing being a complete coke head and going on a killing rampage after someone gives you the wrong shit is obviously government propaganda.

I think that coke you're snorting has gone to your head Robbie, literally.

you are a fucking moron and don't know shit

Ah, good for her. Her mother would be so proud :)

Isn't Amy Winehouse in her 20's? So that would probably put her mom in her early 40's? Which would make her mom a teenager in the 1970's?

I'm pretty sure that Amy Winehouse's mom partied a bit then in the 70's and 80's (and unless she's burnt out or became a dork like retoxjosh, then I'm sure she probably still goes out on the weekends and maybe smokes one or hits a bump while having some drinks)

Most people aren't drug addicts. Very few are. (at least with coke and pot)

Some people get addicted to EVERYTHING. Drugs, alcohol, gambling...they just have addictive personalities. So, the govt. in all their wisdom dumbs down the rest of society for that 1% who can't handle their shit.

You can have a bar full of a thousand people drinking and having a good time and getting laid. You know blowing off steam. But let ONE asshole walk in there who CAN'T handle it and kill somebody...then you have the media and the govt. condemning EVERYBODY that drinks. (thus our ridiculouos dui laws that aren't even set up to catch "drunk" drivers)

It's the same with other drugs, not just alcohol. Yeah, it's politically incorrect now to say you party. And then you have a generation of sheep like retoxjosh who grew up with the War On Drugs.

Newsflash: Drugs are fun, and it feels good getting high on a Friday night and going out to nightclubs and having some FUN. And that's what 99% of people who party experience. They're not "running from demons" or some other phsychological bullshit.

If drugs didn't make you feel good, then people wouldn't do them to begin with.

Me? I'm like most average people. I work all week. I stay home. I play with my dogs, I spend time with my kids (took them to see "Bolt" last night) Pretty much a "boring" "normal" lifestyle.

But if I can get out on a Friday night? I become my true self with no responsibilities for a few hours. Do a little club hopping, drink some jaegar bombs, maybe pick up a gram of coke if I can find it...and hopefully end up in some sort of orgy. lol

Then I head home and put my "family man" mask back on and go back to "normal" again. Just like millions of other people do. :)

Now, when I was playing in my band full time...we played 7 nights a week EVERY week and traveled all over the country. There wasn't any "normal" time then lol Just a great non-stop party that lasted almost 30 years.

Had a blast. Didn't become "addicted" and didn't need "rehab"... Some people do. It just isn't in the physiology of the vast majority of people to become addicted to stuff.

We didn't use to come down on musicians and actors for partying. Now, it's so politically incorrect that the "just say no" dorks jump on every star that has a good time.

Nobody was giving Led Zeppelin, or Aerosmith, or The Beatles, or The Stones, ~insert 1000 other rock bands names here~ any shit for all the drugs (including some REAL hard drugs) that they were doing.

The Stones did some of their greatest music on heroin. Now THAT is a nasty drug.

And The Beatles wrote and recorded some of the greatest music of all times while tripping on acid. (Which I fully endorse, just haven't found any in about 10 years)

And if you look at the other arts...literature, art, theater...you will find the same exact thing.

But now? Amy Winehouse does some little girly drugs and everybody freaks out. Hey, if she has an addictive personality then she's fucked no matter what. She'll either kill herself on cigarettes or booze anyway. Whereas Steven Tyler is still alive and kicking ass (and doing blow) Just different people.

Lmao :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The people who go on killing rampages after cocaine use were people with severe mental problems who would of killed one way or the other, them taking cocaine before had nothing to do with it. You cant turn a normal person into a crazy murderer simply by snorting something, at least not anything you could buy on the street im sure the Kremlin could hook it up though.

She actually does crack and heroin.

Wow what band? Surely after 30 years of nightly shows you are a huge star?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Yeah, me and every other guy who played the circuit. I was a HUGE star at The Agorra Ballrooms, Crown Lounges, Other Place's , and all the indy clubs from Flynt Michigan to Key West to New Orleans to Panama City to Myrtle Beach to Jackson Mississippi and the list goes on.

Huge! Well, my band and the other 20 who worked for Showtime Ent. and Fantasma Productions lol :1orglaugh

You're right. You made me curious and I looked around and see her ex-husband got her doing crack and heroin. Those are "big boy" drugs. Nasty stuff.

Seems like girls have more trouble dealing with those kinds of things for some reason. Crack is such a disgusting thing. It's not even a "drug". Bunch of toxic chemicals mixed together that are supposedly incredibly addictive. I don't even know why people would dream of doing that stuff.

At least heroin supposedly makes you feel better than you ever have in your life. But I'm biased against "downer" drugs that make you sit in a corner and go to sleep. Can't deal with that. Hell, I can't even take a couple of hits from a joint without going to sleep. lol

Oh well, I hope that Amy Winehouse is tough enough to deal with heroin. But I'm not sure if she has the constitution of Keith Richards.

The crack thing? I'm clueless. That's such a ghetto drug. I have no idea why a girl who sold that many records and made a nice amount of money would want to take shit drugs like that. I would be doing the finest flake from Peru along with bottles of Cristal.

funny that suburban kids smoke crack now. kinda weird.

absolutely nothing wrong with either of them if done in moderation, which, contrary to popular belief, is pretty much where amy winehouse is

amy winehouse loves to party and has an amazing voice, and makes a damn nice living singing and getting fucked up

I don't personally like crack, but I can see why people do it...get a real rock, from a real dealer, and smoke it....BEST fucking feeling in the world...but only for like 2 minutes

I would much prefer a huge rail of powdered cocaine

out of all drugs my favorites are pure molly mdma and ghb

my favorite drug combo is ghb, cocaine and a small bit of shrooms mixed in

Dont know about moderation speedballing and nearly dieing multiple times shes obviously doing a fair amount and is clearly pretty damn hooked on the stuff.

Could then a counter argument to yours be that girly drugs like coke and weed go on to harder stuff to reach the next "buzz" in life? Surely that is a problem with girly drugs?

Don't be such a fucking retard. Anything done in moderation is good for you, even cyanide.

Yeh Amy Winehouse really loves her life. I bet as a woman she loves to look like a wreck, have people give her evil looks on the street and i bet she loved it that her husband has been in jail for the past 26 months or something. Best time of her life I bet.

bingo


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I've never believed that "gateway drug" bullshit. How many billion people are there on earth? Nobody has any statistics...but I'll bet that over 50% of them that have access to it have smoked pot and/or snorted some coke. And the overwhelming majority...I'd bet 99.999999999% are not doing the "harder stuff"

Yes, I'm sure that if you are a heroin addict that you smoked some pot or did a line before you ever got to heroin. But the coke and pot isn't what put you there. That's an argument that the Bill O'Reilly's try to feed us.

I don't know...I just don't like the govt. telling me what I can and can't do to have fun. It's none of their goddamn business in my opinion.

Cocaine was perfectly legal until after World War 1. That's when the govt. decided to start legislating morality and became the "fun police" Remember prohibition?

As far as Heroin goes...I found this article real interesting. I didn't know any of that: http://opioids.com/heroin/heroinhistory.html

Point is...if an adult wants to do something that doesn't harm anyone else and that they enjoy...what the fuck is the govt. doing telling us we can't AND arresting people and really ruining their lives?

And making recreational drugs illegal sure as hell didn't stop that 0.0001 % of people who are predisposed to addiction to getting it and becoming junkies anyway. So those laws really just punish everybody else who CAN enjoy recreational drugs without any problems in their lives. Just my opinion.

:1orglaugh

Hope she keeps doing it... more more more... then her heart will explode and it will finally be over.

That is a fucking disgrace. The woman needs an intervention before she implodes.

One slight problem with that theory Robbie. Drugs hurt alot of people other than the user. Ask any cop and they will tell you 95% of break and enters are committed by drug addicts who need cash to score.

Cause and effect in my opinion. Making stuff illegal creates crime. Prohibition made the mafia into a monster. Drug laws create an illegal network of criminals. I'm not saying that assholes on drugs don't break into houses and steal shit. But how does making the drugs illegal HELP to stop that? It's happening now. Those same assholes are the people who have that addictive personality. They are going to be hooked on SOMETHING no matter what.

Me and you going out to a club and doing some bumps or smoking a joint isn't hurting anybody. Yet WE go to jail when caught. Meanwhile that drug addict that is breaking into people's homes doesn't give a shit. He was going to be addicted to SOMETHING no matter what.

I have an alcoholic in my family, and I'm sure many of you have witnessed them as well. And this person has also been addicted to prescription pain killers and diet pills. He also smokes like a fiend, ran up a huge phone bill a few years ago with those 1-900 sex lines, and loves to gamble.

He has pretty much ruined his life from top to bottom. He's not the worst I've seen...some alcoholics REALLY hit bottom. But for every alcohol addict like that, there are millions of people who drink all their lives without becoming addicted to it.

Same with other drugs. Some people are just born that way. And they are gonna become drug addicts, ruin their lives, and commit crime to steal money. That's just the way it is. The govt. can make a million laws (and they have) making every goddamn thing in the world illegal and it STILL won't stop the addictive people from doing what they want to.

The only people who suffer are the majority of us who are forced to either lead a life full of nothing but "G rated" fun OR are forced to break idiotic laws every damn time we want to have some fun and blow off some steam. Sucks. :disgust

yeah, because that is what I meant

idiot

everything hurts everybody, it is the society we live in

every time you do something I guarantee you can find someone that was offended or hurt by your actions

you are this HUGE anti-drug idiot fanboy, but fact remains you hurt a lot of people with your words on the subject, so are you going to be anti-words now too? please say yes...

Is this for real ? Someone reads a book or takes a walk along the beach and thats comparable to breaking into someone elses house and stealing their shit is it?

ps - newsflash I am not a huge antidrug crusader at all. I have smoked more pot than you have had breaths.

Hey before y'all start fighting...I wanted to change the subject real quick

It's Sunday Nov. 30th and we are having a great day at claudia-marie.com for sales. Don't know why. It kinda caught me off guard that today would be a pretty big day. Maybe people are tired of all the bad news on the economy and terrorrism, etc and now that "black friday" has come and gone they felt like treating themselves?

Anybody else showing above average sales today?

I understand where you are coming from Robbie. I am not one for doing everything the government tells me by any stretch. I see alcohol and cigs as far more harmful than pot for example. I think pot should be legalized and you are right there is nothing wrong with blowing a doobie to relax. However I happen to think that for drugs like heroin and cocaine it would be a fucking disaster to legalize them. For those drugs what starts out as 'fun' can quickly turn into a complete nightmare.

But like I was saying earlier...cocaine was totally legal until the 1920's. The govt. started putting their nose into people's personal lives. Most famous failure was Prohibition when they made alcohol illegal.

That url I put up a little earlier was real interesting about heroin. Turns out it was Bayer that created it! And they sold it and marketed it for a few years as well. I didn't know that. I remember hearing a radio interview with the actor that played Grandpa Munster on the t.v. show and he was a big proponent of making drugs legal.

In that interview he claimed that he used to go to the drugstore as a young boy and buy heroin over the counter for his grandmother. I didn't believe it then. But I do now. I even googled this up:
http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/opi016a.jpg

And yes, it contained REAL heroin. Bayer was making up tons of it a year and selling it all around the world.

Anyway, point is...all these things were legal at one time or another. Heroin is a little extreme, but it is as readily available now as it ever was. The laws didn't change people's desires. They only created a huge crime problem with drug dealers.

Put the shit back on the shelf at the local drug store and that wouldn't be the case anymore. Would there be more drug addicts? Maybe. Hell most definitely if it's that good.

But so what? I like to live my life free to make my own choices (including the choice of the loaded shotgun beside my bed and the two big german shepards in the yard just in case someone does decide to be stupid and break in my house lol )

I guess it's a conundrum. But I just can't stand giving my personal freedoms away to the govt. to make decisions for me. You know what I mean.

haha I am only interested in conversation not fighting :pimp

nice to hear you have having a good day man :thumbsup

thats the beauty of porn guys are always going to want to beat it no matter how bad shit is :1orglaugh

Yeah it blew me away when I first read about heroin being legal but like you it didn't really surprise me. The government is always claiming to have the peoples best interests at heart bur rarely, if ever, do they. Take here in Australia for example they are already doing trials of a fucking filter that is going to block 'questionable' sites at ISP level. As you can imagine I am fucking outraged.

It is just really difficult situation with drugs man. On one hand people should be able to do what they like but on the other hand complete anarchy is not going to work either.

Robbie come on please... You think if you made hard drugs legal alot of crime and violence would stop?

:helpme

These junkies don't care if a fix is £5 or £20 they are getting their fix no matter what and will go through all their cash no matter what.

Anyway I am out of this argument.
Robbie, no offense, but I am glad you are not in the government. P.s. I don't agree with Americas drug policy, but if your thinking hard drugs should be legalised then it's my bedtime.

They are just trying to "protect the children" :1orglaugh I read an article with a judge who made good sense to me. He basically said that when all these children that we are "protecting", through what is really censorship, grow up to be adults themselves...they are going to be outraged that we gave away THEIR personal freedoms.

Very true. It's frustrating that the majority of people have to live their lives under the thumb of the authorities because a small percentage of people can't handle some substances.

And you know, people DO do what they like. That's what irks me. They can pass laws until the cows come home and it doesn't do anything but penalize you and me. They made coke and heroin illegal in the 1920's. They made pot illegal in the U.S. in 1937

Yet, people are shooting more heroin now than ever before. I did some good coke on Friday night before I went down to the strip. And I'll bet you have a nice doobie stashed away ready for an evenings' relaxation.

How did we ever make it before Big Brother stepped in and made everything illegal? And why do people refer to those years before it was made illegal as a "simpler time" when things were so much better? My great granparents and grandparents always spoke of how nice things were back in the early 1900's. And yet...THEY WERE COMPLETELY UNPROTECTED FROM THE SHEER EVIIIIILLLLLL OF DRUGS BY THE KINDLY AND FRIENDLY GOVT.

It's a miracle any of them survived. And they must have all been stupid because they didn't even realize how much danger they were in. Why, at any time back around 1910, a person might have smoked a joint or even did a bump! Holy shit! Didn't they realize that it was a danger to all of society?

Oh wait a minute. That's right. It wasn't a danger until it was made illegal by the govt. and an entire criminal underground sprang up to supply the country. :disgust

No, I don't think it would stop even one crazy motherfucker from doing something stupid. What it would do is stop the average person from technically being a criminal for doing a bump on a Friday night. And I think it would stop the major crimes of the drug syndicates because there would no longer be a need for gang warfare over the drug trade. That's where the real crimes are at. I don't even begin to compare the meth head in some little town in Georgia to the street gangs doing drive by's and the mafia and the South American drug cartels butchering people.

All of that would stop instantly.

But that little meth head in Georgia? He's still gonna steal my lawn mower out of my yard and pawn it for a rock. It don't matter to him what's legal or not legal.

thats was fast!

EVERY fucking board you post on where someone talks about using drugs you are ALWAYS the voice of "DON'T DO IT IDIOT"

I see you call drug users names all the fucking time...want me to pull up all the extreme bullshit.com threads where you call drug users names and whine and cry at them for using cocaine or ecstasy?

you are the biggest laughed at idiot in the industry, you are a complete hypocrite joke and change opinions like I change underwear....go back to making that $24k a year mr affiliate rep

Easy now Super Negro. No need to get crazy here. This has actually been a pretty interesting discussion. Let's don't turn it into a piss fest.

wow...everyone knows she is a crack head but on stage? lol

interesting discussion, but kinda weird- thought porn people would be a bit more worldly ... keep it going robbie ...

Most people on here aren't porn people. Most just sell memberships to porn sites. They're like twice removed from it. I'm an old school sex freak and always loved whores, strippers, and pornstars. lol

So I'm not worldly, just a bit open minded about stuff I guess. Plus I'm older than some of the other people in the discusion. I was a teenager in the 1970's. Back then drugs were socially acceptable and people were convinced that our society was moving forward and advancing.

There was gonna be an Equal Rights Ammendment for women (never happened), pot was gonna be legal (never happened), we were all gonna be driving flying cars (never happened)

lol

I do find something interesting. I was reading an interview with Jimmy Carter. Now, I thought Carter sucked as a president. But I don't doubt his intelligence for one minute.

And he said something interesting. There is a big meeting each year of all the governors in the United States. And he said that back then...it was almost a contest to see who had the most crime free state. Back then you had bragging rights if your state had the least crime and the least amount of people in prison.

But NOW, he said he spoke at one in recent years. And he was struck by the fact that governors now like to brag how MANY of their citizens they have thrown in jail (mostly drug charges)

He said that it sure seemed strange that a governor of a state nowadays measures their success by how many of the citizens of their state are in prison and how many prisons they have built.

That's a little food for thought. Just sayin'...

In related news Denmark is now opening a drug rehabilitation program where heavy users of heroin get the drug free from the government 2 times a day. This in an effort to stop crime related to heavy drug users.

You seem to be missing that it is illegal. Very few people get super proud seeing their child do illegal stuff in public.

She is fucked up! She didn´t even try turn around...

I didn't miss it bro. Matter of fact I'm furious that the govt. sees fit to tell people how to live their lives by making damn near everything illegal.

They just made ephedrine illegal a couple of years ago.

I sent my 16 year old into the drug store to get me some nyquil a few months ago...they wouldn't sell it! I had to drag my feverish sick ass into the store to get it myself.

That was part of my point. We are controlled by govt in almost every aspect of our lives. If she wants to get fucked up and ruin herself...what business is it of a bureacracy to tell her it's illegal and try to play "gotcha" so that they can REALLY ruin her life by throwing her in jail and making her a convicted felon.

And her crime? Partying too much. Sorry, I think we are at a time where personal freedom is being taken from us.

But it is illegal and the drug trade is not a a pretty thing. I live in a city that kills 21 people a day and 80% of that is drug traffic related. So doing or promoting things are illegal and people die over is bad. No two ways about it.

Get the laws changed and I will be like yeah lets do it but until then I can't get behiond it.

That was sort of my point too. Just like prohibition on alcohol caused thousands of deaths in gang wars...drug prohibition has caused turf warfare over drugs leading to thousands of deaths.

As far as the "illegal" part goes...yeah, you're right. For centuries marijuana was perfectly legal as was cocaine and several others as we discussed in this thread. Then the govt. started dictating to us what we could and couldn't do to have a good time. They failed at alcohol prohibition but have continued on making things illegal at their whim.

Can't pay a woman for sex, can't smoke a joint, can't do a bump, the list goes on brother. You see, the govt. knows better than you do what you should do or not do. And by God, if something is fun...they will MAKE it illegal.

So now a person is a criminal just for partying on a Friday night. That ain't right.

haha... she is soooo fucked up! I saw her live 2 years ago, and the only cool thing was her black dancer! He was rockin'

Fuck yeah, lol :Oh crap