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Robbie 11-30-2008 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben (Post 15124764)
I understand where you are coming from Robbie. I am not one for doing everything the government tells me by any stretch. I see alcohol and cigs as far more harmful than pot for example. I think pot should be legalized and you are right there is nothing wrong with blowing a doobie to relax. However I happen to think that for drugs like heroin and cocaine it would be a fucking disaster to legalize them. For those drugs what starts out as 'fun' can quickly turn into a complete nightmare.
But like I was saying earlier...cocaine was totally legal until the 1920's. The govt. started putting their nose into people's personal lives. Most famous failure was Prohibition when they made alcohol illegal.

That url I put up a little earlier was real interesting about heroin. Turns out it was Bayer that created it! And they sold it and marketed it for a few years as well. I didn't know that. I remember hearing a radio interview with the actor that played Grandpa Munster on the t.v. show and he was a big proponent of making drugs legal.

In that interview he claimed that he used to go to the drugstore as a young boy and buy heroin over the counter for his grandmother. I didn't believe it then. But I do now. I even googled this up:
http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/opi016a.jpg

And yes, it contained REAL heroin. Bayer was making up tons of it a year and selling it all around the world.

Anyway, point is...all these things were legal at one time or another. Heroin is a little extreme, but it is as readily available now as it ever was. The laws didn't change people's desires. They only created a huge crime problem with drug dealers.

Put the shit back on the shelf at the local drug store and that wouldn't be the case anymore. Would there be more drug addicts? Maybe. Hell most definitely if it's that good.

But so what? I like to live my life free to make my own choices (including the choice of the loaded shotgun beside my bed and the two big german shepards in the yard just in case someone does decide to be stupid and break in my house lol )

I guess it's a conundrum. But I just can't stand giving my personal freedoms away to the govt. to make decisions for me. You know what I mean.

papill0n 11-30-2008 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15124754)
Hey before y'all start fighting...I wanted to change the subject real quick

It's Sunday Nov. 30th and we are having a great day at claudia-marie.com for sales. Don't know why. It kinda caught me off guard that today would be a pretty big day. Maybe people are tired of all the bad news on the economy and terrorrism, etc and now that "black friday" has come and gone they felt like treating themselves?

Anybody else showing above average sales today?
haha I am only interested in conversation not fighting :pimp

nice to hear you have having a good day man :thumbsup

thats the beauty of porn guys are always going to want to beat it no matter how bad shit is :1orglaugh

papill0n 11-30-2008 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15124786)
But like I was saying earlier...cocaine was totally legal until the 1920's. The govt. started putting their nose into people's personal lives. Most famous failure was Prohibition when they made alcohol illegal.

That url I put up a little earlier was real interesting about heroin. Turns out it was Bayer that created it! And they sold it and marketed it for a few years as well. I didn't know that. I remember hearing a radio interview with the actor that played Grandpa Munster on the t.v. show and he was a big proponent of making drugs legal.

In that interview he claimed that he used to go to the drugstore as a young boy and buy heroin over the counter for his grandmother. I didn't believe it then. But I do now. I even googled this up:
http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/opi016a.jpg

And yes, it contained REAL heroin. Bayer was making up tons of it a year and selling it all around the world.

Anyway, point is...all these things were legal at one time or another. Heroin is a little extreme, but it is as readily available now as it ever was. The laws didn't change people's desires. They only created a huge crime problem with drug dealers.

Put the shit back on the shelf at the local drug store and that wouldn't be the case anymore. Would there be more drug addicts? Maybe. Hell most definitely if it's that good.

But so what? I like to live my life free to make my own choices (including the choice of the loaded shotgun beside my bed and the two big german shepards in the yard just in case someone does decide to be stupid and break in my house lol )

I guess it's a conundrum. But I just can't stand giving my personal freedoms away to the govt. to make decisions for me. You know what I mean.
Yeah it blew me away when I first read about heroin being legal but like you it didn't really surprise me. The government is always claiming to have the peoples best interests at heart bur rarely, if ever, do they. Take here in Australia for example they are already doing trials of a fucking filter that is going to block 'questionable' sites at ISP level. As you can imagine I am fucking outraged.

It is just really difficult situation with drugs man. On one hand people should be able to do what they like but on the other hand complete anarchy is not going to work either.

scottybuzz 11-30-2008 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15124664)
Cause and effect in my opinion. Making stuff illegal creates crime.
Robbie come on please... You think if you made hard drugs legal alot of crime and violence would stop?

:helpme

These junkies don't care if a fix is Ģ5 or Ģ20 they are getting their fix no matter what and will go through all their cash no matter what.

Anyway I am out of this argument.
Robbie, no offense, but I am glad you are not in the government. P.s. I don't agree with Americas drug policy, but if your thinking hard drugs should be legalised then it's my bedtime.

Robbie 11-30-2008 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben (Post 15124810)
The government is always claiming to have the peoples best interests at heart bur rarely, if ever, do they. Take here in Australia for example they are already doing trials of a fucking filter that is going to block 'questionable' sites at ISP level. As you can imagine I am fucking outraged.
They are just trying to "protect the children" :1orglaugh I read an article with a judge who made good sense to me. He basically said that when all these children that we are "protecting", through what is really censorship, grow up to be adults themselves...they are going to be outraged that we gave away THEIR personal freedoms.

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It is just really difficult situation with drugs man. On one hand people should be able to do what they like but on the other hand complete anarchy is not going to work either.
Very true. It's frustrating that the majority of people have to live their lives under the thumb of the authorities because a small percentage of people can't handle some substances.

And you know, people DO do what they like. That's what irks me. They can pass laws until the cows come home and it doesn't do anything but penalize you and me. They made coke and heroin illegal in the 1920's. They made pot illegal in the U.S. in 1937

Yet, people are shooting more heroin now than ever before. I did some good coke on Friday night before I went down to the strip. And I'll bet you have a nice doobie stashed away ready for an evenings' relaxation.

How did we ever make it before Big Brother stepped in and made everything illegal? And why do people refer to those years before it was made illegal as a "simpler time" when things were so much better? My great granparents and grandparents always spoke of how nice things were back in the early 1900's. And yet...THEY WERE COMPLETELY UNPROTECTED FROM THE SHEER EVIIIIILLLLLL OF DRUGS BY THE KINDLY AND FRIENDLY GOVT.

It's a miracle any of them survived. And they must have all been stupid because they didn't even realize how much danger they were in. Why, at any time back around 1910, a person might have smoked a joint or even did a bump! Holy shit! Didn't they realize that it was a danger to all of society?

Oh wait a minute. That's right. It wasn't a danger until it was made illegal by the govt. and an entire criminal underground sprang up to supply the country. :disgust

Robbie 11-30-2008 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 15124824)
Robbie come on please... You think if you made hard drugs legal alot of crime and violence would stop?
No, I don't think it would stop even one crazy motherfucker from doing something stupid. What it would do is stop the average person from technically being a criminal for doing a bump on a Friday night. And I think it would stop the major crimes of the drug syndicates because there would no longer be a need for gang warfare over the drug trade. That's where the real crimes are at. I don't even begin to compare the meth head in some little town in Georgia to the street gangs doing drive by's and the mafia and the South American drug cartels butchering people.

All of that would stop instantly.

But that little meth head in Georgia? He's still gonna steal my lawn mower out of my yard and pawn it for a rock. It don't matter to him what's legal or not legal.

chuvii 11-30-2008 09:11 PM
thats was fast!

Super Negro 11-30-2008 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben (Post 15124730)
Is this for real ? Someone reads a book or takes a walk along the beach and thats comparable to breaking into someone elses house and stealing their shit is it?

ps - newsflash I am not a huge antidrug crusader at all. I have smoked more pot than you have had breaths.
EVERY fucking board you post on where someone talks about using drugs you are ALWAYS the voice of "DON'T DO IT IDIOT"

I see you call drug users names all the fucking time...want me to pull up all the extreme bullshit.com threads where you call drug users names and whine and cry at them for using cocaine or ecstasy?

you are the biggest laughed at idiot in the industry, you are a complete hypocrite joke and change opinions like I change underwear....go back to making that $24k a year mr affiliate rep

Robbie 11-30-2008 09:28 PM
Easy now Super Negro. No need to get crazy here. This has actually been a pretty interesting discussion. Let's don't turn it into a piss fest.

WWC 11-30-2008 10:42 PM
wow...everyone knows she is a crack head but on stage? lol

Agent 488 11-30-2008 10:59 PM
interesting discussion, but kinda weird- thought porn people would be a bit more worldly ... keep it going robbie ...

Robbie 11-30-2008 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 15125081)
interesting discussion, but kinda weird- thought porn people would be a bit more worldly ... keep it going robbie ...
Most people on here aren't porn people. Most just sell memberships to porn sites. They're like twice removed from it. I'm an old school sex freak and always loved whores, strippers, and pornstars. lol

So I'm not worldly, just a bit open minded about stuff I guess. Plus I'm older than some of the other people in the discusion. I was a teenager in the 1970's. Back then drugs were socially acceptable and people were convinced that our society was moving forward and advancing.

There was gonna be an Equal Rights Ammendment for women (never happened), pot was gonna be legal (never happened), we were all gonna be driving flying cars (never happened)

lol

I do find something interesting. I was reading an interview with Jimmy Carter. Now, I thought Carter sucked as a president. But I don't doubt his intelligence for one minute.

And he said something interesting. There is a big meeting each year of all the governors in the United States. And he said that back then...it was almost a contest to see who had the most crime free state. Back then you had bragging rights if your state had the least crime and the least amount of people in prison.

But NOW, he said he spoke at one in recent years. And he was struck by the fact that governors now like to brag how MANY of their citizens they have thrown in jail (mostly drug charges)

He said that it sure seemed strange that a governor of a state nowadays measures their success by how many of the citizens of their state are in prison and how many prisons they have built.

That's a little food for thought. Just sayin'...

The Duck 12-01-2008 12:35 AM
In related news Denmark is now opening a drug rehabilitation program where heavy users of heroin get the drug free from the government 2 times a day. This in an effort to stop crime related to heavy drug users.

slapass 12-01-2008 05:18 AM
You seem to be missing that it is illegal. Very few people get super proud seeing their child do illegal stuff in public.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15123912)
Isn't Amy Winehouse in her 20's? So that would probably put her mom in her early 40's? Which would make her mom a teenager in the 1970's?

I'm pretty sure that Amy Winehouse's mom partied a bit then in the 70's and 80's (and unless she's burnt out or became a dork like retoxjosh, then I'm sure she probably still goes out on the weekends and maybe smokes one or hits a bump while having some drinks)

Most people aren't drug addicts. Very few are. (at least with coke and pot)

Some people get addicted to EVERYTHING. Drugs, alcohol, gambling...they just have addictive personalities. So, the govt. in all their wisdom dumbs down the rest of society for that 1% who can't handle their shit.

You can have a bar full of a thousand people drinking and having a good time and getting laid. You know blowing off steam. But let ONE asshole walk in there who CAN'T handle it and kill somebody...then you have the media and the govt. condemning EVERYBODY that drinks. (thus our ridiculouos dui laws that aren't even set up to catch "drunk" drivers)

It's the same with other drugs, not just alcohol. Yeah, it's politically incorrect now to say you party. And then you have a generation of sheep like retoxjosh who grew up with the War On Drugs.

Newsflash: Drugs are fun, and it feels good getting high on a Friday night and going out to nightclubs and having some FUN. And that's what 99% of people who party experience. They're not "running from demons" or some other phsychological bullshit.

If drugs didn't make you feel good, then people wouldn't do them to begin with.

Me? I'm like most average people. I work all week. I stay home. I play with my dogs, I spend time with my kids (took them to see "Bolt" last night) Pretty much a "boring" "normal" lifestyle.

But if I can get out on a Friday night? I become my true self with no responsibilities for a few hours. Do a little club hopping, drink some jaegar bombs, maybe pick up a gram of coke if I can find it...and hopefully end up in some sort of orgy. lol

Then I head home and put my "family man" mask back on and go back to "normal" again. Just like millions of other people do. :)

Now, when I was playing in my band full time...we played 7 nights a week EVERY week and traveled all over the country. There wasn't any "normal" time then lol Just a great non-stop party that lasted almost 30 years.

Had a blast. Didn't become "addicted" and didn't need "rehab"... Some people do. It just isn't in the physiology of the vast majority of people to become addicted to stuff.

We didn't use to come down on musicians and actors for partying. Now, it's so politically incorrect that the "just say no" dorks jump on every star that has a good time.

Nobody was giving Led Zeppelin, or Aerosmith, or The Beatles, or The Stones, ~insert 1000 other rock bands names here~ any shit for all the drugs (including some REAL hard drugs) that they were doing.

The Stones did some of their greatest music on heroin. Now THAT is a nasty drug.

And The Beatles wrote and recorded some of the greatest music of all times while tripping on acid. (Which I fully endorse, just haven't found any in about 10 years)

And if you look at the other arts...literature, art, theater...you will find the same exact thing.

But now? Amy Winehouse does some little girly drugs and everybody freaks out. Hey, if she has an addictive personality then she's fucked no matter what. She'll either kill herself on cigarettes or booze anyway. Whereas Steven Tyler is still alive and kicking ass (and doing blow) Just different people.

kowalsky 12-01-2008 05:53 AM
She is fucked up! She didnīt even try turn around...

Robbie 12-01-2008 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 15125707)
You seem to be missing that it is illegal. Very few people get super proud seeing their child do illegal stuff in public.
I didn't miss it bro. Matter of fact I'm furious that the govt. sees fit to tell people how to live their lives by making damn near everything illegal.

They just made ephedrine illegal a couple of years ago.

I sent my 16 year old into the drug store to get me some nyquil a few months ago...they wouldn't sell it! I had to drag my feverish sick ass into the store to get it myself.

That was part of my point. We are controlled by govt in almost every aspect of our lives. If she wants to get fucked up and ruin herself...what business is it of a bureacracy to tell her it's illegal and try to play "gotcha" so that they can REALLY ruin her life by throwing her in jail and making her a convicted felon.

And her crime? Partying too much. Sorry, I think we are at a time where personal freedom is being taken from us.

slapass 12-01-2008 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15125871)
I didn't miss it bro. Matter of fact I'm furious that the govt. sees fit to tell people how to live their lives by making damn near everything illegal.

They just made ephedrine illegal a couple of years ago.

I sent my 16 year old into the drug store to get me some nyquil a few months ago...they wouldn't sell it! I had to drag my feverish sick ass into the store to get it myself.

That was part of my point. We are controlled by govt in almost every aspect of our lives. If she wants to get fucked up and ruin herself...what business is it of a bureacracy to tell her it's illegal and try to play "gotcha" so that they can REALLY ruin her life by throwing her in jail and making her a convicted felon.

And her crime? Partying too much. Sorry, I think we are at a time where personal freedom is being taken from us.
But it is illegal and the drug trade is not a a pretty thing. I live in a city that kills 21 people a day and 80% of that is drug traffic related. So doing or promoting things are illegal and people die over is bad. No two ways about it.

Get the laws changed and I will be like yeah lets do it but until then I can't get behiond it.

Robbie 12-01-2008 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 15125907)
But it is illegal and the drug trade is not a a pretty thing. I live in a city that kills 21 people a day and 80% of that is drug traffic related. So doing or promoting things are illegal and people die over is bad. No two ways about it.

Get the laws changed and I will be like yeah lets do it but until then I can't get behiond it.
That was sort of my point too. Just like prohibition on alcohol caused thousands of deaths in gang wars...drug prohibition has caused turf warfare over drugs leading to thousands of deaths.

As far as the "illegal" part goes...yeah, you're right. For centuries marijuana was perfectly legal as was cocaine and several others as we discussed in this thread. Then the govt. started dictating to us what we could and couldn't do to have a good time. They failed at alcohol prohibition but have continued on making things illegal at their whim.

Can't pay a woman for sex, can't smoke a joint, can't do a bump, the list goes on brother. You see, the govt. knows better than you do what you should do or not do. And by God, if something is fun...they will MAKE it illegal.

So now a person is a criminal just for partying on a Friday night. That ain't right.

Violetta 12-01-2008 09:37 AM
haha... she is soooo fucked up! I saw her live 2 years ago, and the only cool thing was her black dancer! He was rockin'

Basic_man 12-01-2008 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Decker (Post 15106422)
I woulda just walked backstage real quick, fuck the audience... they can wait 5 seconds.
Fuck yeah, lol :Oh crap

The Duck 12-01-2008 11:46 AM
100 high chav girls!

Khulan 12-01-2008 01:57 PM
She is too nasty. She is young and talented, but her face, skin and appearance already got older.

Lykos 12-01-2008 02:55 PM
She's fucking idiot:)

webair 12-01-2008 03:16 PM
She can do whatever she wants have you heard her cd? Best talent to be had in a long time.

papill0n 12-01-2008 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Super Negro (Post 15124893)
EVERY fucking board you post on where someone talks about using drugs you are ALWAYS the voice of "DON'T DO IT IDIOT"

I see you call drug users names all the fucking time...want me to pull up all the extreme bullshit.com threads where you call drug users names and whine and cry at them for using cocaine or ecstasy?

you are the biggest laughed at idiot in the industry, you are a complete hypocrite joke and change opinions like I change underwear....go back to making that $24k a year mr affiliate rep

What a complete load of shit. Franck you are the epitome of a keyboard warrior. Load up a few more fake nicks and jerk yourself stupid.

I dont give a fuck if people do drugs. I have done plenty in my time. I do infact think hard drugs cause more harm than good. Pot is also harmful when abused over long periods but no more so than alcohol or cigarettes.

ps - go fuck yourself :321GFY :1orglaugh

The Duck 12-07-2008 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by webair (Post 15128259)
She can do whatever she wants have you heard her cd? Best talent to be had in a long time.
That is true. She has THE voice.

jonesonyou 12-07-2008 11:38 PM
Haha that's awesome

WinstonTriplexcash 12-07-2008 11:40 PM
Amy is a crackhead

Blingbaby 12-07-2008 11:42 PM
Wow! You can tell she was sitting there for a while thinking about it..

woj 12-08-2008 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 15106449)
Wouldn't surprise me one bit.
:thumbsup


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