100 Blood thirsty Hunters :(

I fucked your deer in the arse!

I was unaware that we have evolved into herbivores. Shame on me!

Can one of you anti-hunting crusaders please come in here with a reasonable defense or argument? PLEASE? Not one of you has presented anything beyond "I watched bambi, and I know everything about deers, and you are a prick". You are a bunch of fucking clowns.

Let's list your arguments so far.

1. Hunters do it to feel big and make up for feelings of inadequacy.
- the only ones who are making up for any feelings of inadequacy in here are the apologetics who have a need to inflate their own egos by walking their ultra-righteous path. what makes you feel so guilty about being human that you need to suppress a natural human instinct and deny it's existence to make yourself feel like a better person? What need do you have to inflate your ego in such a way? For such a well educated, hip to the groove, new age thinker, you certainly are a narrow-minded and intolerant bunch of fucks you know? The majority of your arguments hold no more ground than someone saying "I hate nigggggers! Why? Because they're black!"

2. Hunters are uneducated hillbillies.
- 98% of the anti-hunting folk posting here couldn't tell you the difference between a mule deer or a whitetail, let alone how to track one. hunters have a much more solid understanding of wildlife and nature, and what it takes to preserve it than said 98%. Not one of you has presented a reasonable argument that holds any ground, simply opinion. Show me an educated reason to stop hunting and i'll listen, untilt hen you're just a bleeding heart fucking pussy.

3. Hunters are damaging the animal population
- Ask any educated biologist or conservation officer what role hunters play in maintaining the populations. In my area the mule deer have virtually pushed the whitetail population out. If it weren't for conservationists raising the number of permits for mule deer in my area and allowing hunters to make more legal kills, the whitetail population would be wiped out. Hunters (not poachers) are an integral part in maintaining healthy populations.

4. Hunting with a rifle is EASY, you are no sportsman. Hunt the animal like a real man, with your hands!
- Oh please do shut up. When the hell has man ever gone out into the woods and dove out of a tree onto the back of a deer, wrestled it to the ground, and snapped its neck in a one on one no holds barred battle to the death? NEVER. Man has been a hunter since the beginning of time. large hunting parties came together to stalk their prey, they herded buffalo over cliffs with large walls, speared, snared, trapped, cut and bludgeoned woodland animals to death on groups. How is that any more acceptable than going out with a rifle and making a quick lean kill. You do realize that deer don't just walk out in front of you and stand there waiting to be killed right? It takes time, patience, and skill to hunt. whether you understand it or not, it IS a sporting event.

5. Deer are fragile animals, they are cute and cuddly, and defenseless in the fight against humans.
- Deer are extremely talented when it comes to avoiding humans. They have many advantages that keep them a step ahead of the game. They are by no means an eays target. Also, just because they are cute, doe snot make them any less edible than any other animal. LOL at the fucking idiot who said they aren't impressed by a hunter who shoots a deer, but might be impressed by someone who goes to afria and shoots a rhino. that guy is a REAL fucking idiot. Deer are by no means ill-equipped to fuck you up. I one cleaned a deer that had been in a fight earlier, the carcass was nothing but a giant bruise down one side, and he was punched full of holes from the battle. Two bucks will fight eachother to the death, and if you find yourself in a position where you have to defend yourself against a wild animal, you may very well find yourself dead. Lets get away from deer for a moment and look at something like say, a moose. A moose can be and is a very dangerous animal. Are you more manly for hunting a moose than a deer in your books then? Seriously, what in the fucking hell are you talking about people?

6. I'm a vegan/vegetarian and i don't eat meat because it is cruel or not healthy.
- I have no problem with someone choosing not to eat meat if they think it is a healthier choice and beneficial to their body. It's like someone choosing not to smoke. What are you gonna say to that? It's their choice, and for the most part the people who choose a vegetarian lifestyle for dietary reasons don't run around flapping their mouths about how wrong everyone who doesn't follow in their footsteps is. for those of you that simply believe you are somehow doing good and helping the animals by not directly eating them, well you my friend are just a good damn idiot. If you are doing anything other than crawling around in the bushes eating berries you are a good damned hypocrite. See response to statement #1. You're only doing it to inflate your own egos and create some feeling within yourself that you are important or better than anyone who doesn't share you oddball hypocritical little view. please just shut the fuck up.

7. Hunters kill just for the sake of killing.
- again shut up, you are failing to differentiate a small number of people who are nothing more than poachers from a large number of people who hunt for the experience and rewards provided from going out and hunting your prey and going home with food that you yourself took home with you. When it comes to poachers there are a few different classifications, you can't just lump every group of people into one heading, even if you'd like to. the thrill killers are even a very small group of people within this group. the type of people who will go out and shoot an animal and LEAVE IT. they have no interest in anything other than killing, and believe me, most hunters hold much more hostility towards this type of person than any of you hardcore animal rights fags could ever dream of. these are the type of people who will strangle their neighbor's puppy for thrills though. comparing your average hunter to these people is ridiculous.

8. Well I don't mind if someone is going to eat the animal, but trophy hunting is sick!
-The competitive nature of the hunt keep things interesting. People post pictures of their bucks because they are proud of the accomplishments, and fellow sportsman can comment on them. the community feel keeps people coming back. Trophy hunting is a part of the sport. It makes the game interesting. The people who hunt big bucks are simply making the hunt that much harder for themselves. Record book bucks are not stupid, and you'll need to pull out every trick in the book for years and years to get one. You can hunt you entire life and never get a record buck. These people are for the most part dedicated hunters. I get several tags a year, I fill my meat tags, and I have one or two trophy tags. My trophy hunt is usually the whitetail buck. I'd say the whitetail buck is the primary trophy hunt in north america. I didn't fill my buck tag this year. I turned down probably a good 40 different bucks this season. I could have killed and killed and killed again, but i didn't. that's my trophy tag. the people who fill those tags with trophy bucks are out every minute of the day, scraping around in the bush, tracking their prey, and dedicating themselves for one month of the year every year, sometimes for years on end for that trophy buck. When you get yourself a book buck, you're damn right you're going to show it off, and the hunting community will praise you for it. It's an accomplishment i guess none of you will ever understand.


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my "C" key is a little fucked up right now :D

haha wtf?! put down the crack pipe and reread the op.

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the guy doesn't understand english, go easy on him, lol.

False. I've done it. I live in the city so the deer are accustom to people. I waited in the tree and jumped on him while he ate the corn. Granted I had a knife. Sure was more fun than waiting inside and then capping his ass.

you are a god among men

no, he is just another dufus


try that with a full grown bear or even a wolverine if you are hungry for survival and then maybe he'd be worthy of praise :2 cents:

not all of us can live on cock and balls... :2 cents:

Humans are supposed to hunt and eat meat... that's nature, if you don't like it then don't do it but you have no right to judge others :2 cents:

killing for food is natural. it's done in every country by every civilization in the world. what the fuck is the problem here?

there are predators and there are prey. we just happen to be predators and defenseless deer just happen to be prey. smart prey stay in the thick shit and run real fast. dumb prey walk around in the open and get shot. in my opinion it's just natures way of weening out the stupid deer genes.

plus i think i'm doing that dumb deer a favor. if it wasn't for me it was probably going to be a mountain lion that would bite and suffocate the deer to death with it's own blood.

so it's almost like a win win situation. :thumbsup

One of the biggest causes of deaths in single car accidents is from hitting a deer..
Way overpopulated.. One state is even wanting to bring in mountain lions to help
shrink the population..

I say open season on em for a couple years..

India and China are "overpopulated" so would throwing in some white supremacist nazi's to shrink their populations be a good idea?

There's no such thing as "overpopulation". It's called nature. Deal with it and but your guns away.

No, probably not, but hey where do you think the next super disease is going to spring up from? That tends to be what happens when populations outgrow the land. Population, gets too high, disease wipes it out. Pretty simple concept really. the same thing will happen if you get too many cats around, they will breed disease, dysentery or whatever, and they will all die out. Maintain the population and these things don't happen.

I used to hunt, grew up hunting all the time. Yes we ate the meat and at times what was for dinner was only killed hours earlier. But I was raised in the country, we had lots of reasons to kill deer or about any other gritter that might be on our land. Deer can destroy a good hay field. I don't hunt anymore, my wife who also grew up eating venison said she was burnt out on it so I stopped hunting. Sure I could find people that would love to have the meat and could actually be a big help to them but it does take time and that is something I have little of. The point I am really trying to make is about culture, the US is not a one culture nation and never has been. It is perfectly normal here to see kids at Bass Pro Shops getting new guns and other things to assist in the hunt. Nope I dont think PEDA pickets there.

One thing I have not seen in this thread and if I missed it sorry. If not for hunters, those guys out killing bambi you might not be able to see bambi anyplace today but in a zoo. Those same hunters pay to hunt, that money is what the states use to maintain the wildlife, it is what pays for those operations to build back the wildlife numbers in some areas of the country. The same money pays for some of those places you non killing folks get to see the deer and the antelope play. Again without the hunters some wildlife would already be extinct.

Point : Hunters are paying for the right to hunt. Now to the veggie folks out there, did you know the farms that raise your veggies kill animals? They do it to protect your veggies from Bambi and they don't even need a license in most states or be in season when they are protecting their crops. Fences, deer can jump higher and further than most animals but they still get tangled in some fences that are built to protect property.

Deer are mean mofos, If you don't think so pour some of that deer piss on your during the right season, take a long walk in the deer woods, then after you have been raped by a buck come back and tell us all how cute they are.

I will say this in terms of hunting today. Technology has changed some things, when I was a kid sure we scouted for deer markings, we planned the area we intended to hunt in but we didnt have deer piss unless we took it from a deer we had killed and I dont think I ever knew anyone back then that thought that was a good idea. We knew to stay downwind of the area we were hunting. Sure I see the hunting shows on TV and see how they get a deer within a few feet to kill them. Personally I dont like seeing anything suffer so I can't say I am a big fan of bow hunting. If I ever saw a true clean kill I might not feel that way. For us growing up, having to track a deer that ran off after you shot it was one of the worst things in the world. It meant you failed, you did not make a good shot and make a clean kill, you left an animal suffering and you had the responsibility to track the animal till you found it and finished the job right if it had not already died when you found it. You had also allowed a very dangerous animal when wounded loose and that could get someone else hurt. It may not seem like sport on those hunting shows that are trying to get as close as they can for the camera but I am sure they did some work to get to that point. Some hunters even do a little farming just to make a place to hunt.

Last house we built in the country, everyone that came out while we were building would look out the back and then look at me and smile, "you are building a killing field" they said that because of the lay of the land and the fact we saw deer everyday out back and had a quarter of a mile with rising ground at the back, perfect shooting spot. But nope that was not the plan but it was the plan to be able to see wildlife. Neighbor hunted and he loved the deer around too and no he didnt kill from his back porch, that is not hunting.

So to each their own but next time you are calling hunters names remember, if it were not for them the closest you might ever get to a deer would be a picture from a history book. They also control those populations to avoid guys living in the cities from climbing trees and jumping down on a deer and slitting its throat in front of a bunch of kids on the way to school in the morning.

In terms of if it is easy to go out and kill a deer, most of you have cameras, take some time and go deer hunting with your cameras and see just how easy it is to get a nice shot or two. This does not mean go out driving around till you see a deer in a field, it means go into the woods and find a deer and get pics, make it even more sporting and only bring back a buck, doe are not in season for cameras. Good Luck!

End of the day some enjoy what they love so much and defend because of the people they think they need to defend against for the sake of wildlife who are actually the people responsible for those animals still being around at all.

Ever notice how it seems everyone has to hate on someone, people spend way too much time talking hate these days. Also to those who eat meat but just think hunting is cruel, consider this, you are a deer in the woods and the lights go out, its done you were shot and are dead, sad but a fact of life. Now consider being a nice steer on the way to be slaughtered, you get loaded into a truck for a ride, never took a ride in your life so of course you are terrified, then you are unloaded into a pen and pushed through a shoot with others in front and behind you, you hear the hammer that is going to kill you and you see the one in front of you die, nothing you can do about it at all but wait for your turn to take the hammer. Personally, I would rather have been killed in the woods.

Meat, it's whats for dinner!

hint.... humans and deer are different.

with that being said , if DEER think humans are overpopulated they are welcome to try and thin us out.

and yes there is such thing as "overpopulation". Is it our role to play population control ? i dunno , but i do know that if we cause a problem and we try and fix it, that can't be "bad".

Prime example, http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A96E9482 60

If we were perfect beings with zero impact on the rest of the world then there could be an argument for not messing with stuff, but because we do have an impact on the rest of the world we cause problems, like overpopulated deer.

Complete bullshyte. When's the last time you hit a person from india or china while going 70 mph on the highway? Smack a deer at that speed (and I've been in a few vehicles that have) and you'd know first hand the meaning of overpopulation.

When they get overpopulated their food supply wains, they get disease, and they begin to die off and their general health of the entire population suffers.

It's dealt with by thinning their numbers. Deers can't build farms to mass produce their food and don't have deer hospitals or deer health care insurance, so that is really the only option.

Of course this is due in part to man invading their territory, but I don't think anyone here is about to give up their land to make deer sanctuaries.

Many life long hunters have a tendency to donate their land, or provide it as sanctuary at low cost to organizations like buck for wildlife and ducks unlimited. the costs of maintaining a sustainable habitat are footed by guess who? HUNTERS. I don't think I've ever seen anyone running around screaming bloody murder at a ducks unlimited charity auction or fundraiser dinner.

Just a bunch of dumbshits who don't know what they're talking about opening their mouths without thinking. So where are those anti-hunting folk with their sound and well reasoned rebuttal?

i think cruelty is cruelty no matter who or what. it is and will always depend on one's perception.

so for instance, one could think eating other animals is cruel so he/she go vegan, others could think they are cruel to vegetables and the likes for similar various reasons too. for example, one COULD think of: mass artificial farming/culturing, testing for research and relentlessly harvesting plants for food is cruel.

imagine crushing those poor baby corns with your insatiable teeth. horrible!:1orglaugh