Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands (Post 15146568)

funny that you complain and in the same post have the solution (myspace girls).. must not work well, otherwise you weren't crying over it. Pay them their rates after all you shoot and expose them, so they want a certain amount.. it's simple.

Originally Posted by Mr. E (Post 15135972)

So you are trying to say standing there naked is ALOT more work than what photographers and webmasters do? Thats so moronic, it really doesnt warrant a reply. get a fucking clue and go learn what WORK is.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15136030)

I tell you what you should do then and see if you like it. Put a video of you being fucked by some moron, or just you masturbating on the free Tubes and every where else. Put it up so all the members of your family can see you. Then you can tell us if you think giving up your privacy is worth $800 a day or only the $300 a day you can afford.


You simply do not get it do you. It's worth it to other shooters or companies. These girls are getting paid this amount. They did not dream up the rates. Stop whining because you can't afford what others can. Stick to shooting the girls you can afford or step up to the plate and invest in your product.

You're coming across as someone who can't afford to pay rather than someone who does not want to.

Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands (Post 15146568)

funny that you complain and in the same post have the solution (myspace girls).. must not work well, otherwise you weren't crying over it. Pay them their rates after all you shoot and expose them, so they want a certain amount.. it's simple.

Originally Posted by Mr. E (Post 15135972)

So you are trying to say standing there naked is ALOT more work than what photographers and webmasters do? Thats so moronic, it really doesnt warrant a reply. get a fucking clue and go learn what WORK is.

Originally Posted by Trixie (Post 15150461)

He's probably a shitty photographer, otherwise he could find lots of decent, semi-experienced and serious models who would DO tfp and he doesn't want to admit that he needs pros to make his crap pics look halfway marketable. Nervous newbies rarely know how to pose, look natural, seductive, etc. especially if the cameraman is a talentless asshole who can't shoot or direct or appreciate what good models have to offer.

Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 15136693)

Unless you are playboy or penthouse you should not be paying models that much money. $150.00 for a b/g or g/g is pretty standard.

Originally Posted by Sam Granger (Post 15153529)

Ok, so you want to pay girls peanuts and make thousands from it? Does it seem correct? They are the ones being "used"/have to deal with the reputation. It's a tougher life than you think and they deserve every penny they ask. If it's too much for you, don't whine, find someone who is willing to do something for the price you want. I respect the girls in this industry for what they are doing and they are definitely not overpaid...

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 15154744)

No union no strike....but thats called collusion and it is illegal and actionable. The producers cannot get together and set talent rates. There are also Sherman and Clayton Anti-Trust Acts implications to even making that statement on a public message board.

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 15154610)

It all depends on how strong your pimp hand is...

Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 15153200)

I had a model turn down $1,200 same day cash for a boy girl scene for one of shoots yesterday.

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 15138411)

This is ridiculous and something I have been hearing producers complain about since precious few even knew what an "internet" was. Pay the models what you want to pay them and stop blaming others for paying more. This is still America and freedom to run your business the way you want is a sacred right of living in a capitalist society.

Here is :2 cents: so you can pay your models more.

Originally Posted by Mr. E (Post 15135832)

Let me start out by saying I do alot more print work then web work. Models are lucky to get paid for alot of print work but do it for tearsheets and exposure.. The website I shoot for, the model is paid on a percentage basis. Was looking into getting some rather well known models for Playboy styled solo work and the prices they wanted were insane, near $1k for 3-4 sets and vids that would take no more than an hour to shoot. Then other girls I know wanting $1k for g/g and $1500 for b/g scenes....give me a fucking break.

In case these dumb whores havent noticed, we are in a recession right now. They should be more than thankful for $300 an hour while the average American makes $9 an hour doing actual WORK. But these girls scoff at anything under $600. I think its about time those of you who pay that kind of money say enough! Take $300, get naked or get the fuck out and I will find another hot college girl in need of money who will. I have a feeling the prices would start coming way down if people started doing that. There is FAR more supply than demand and it will only get worse.

Originally Posted by Mr. E (Post 15135832)

Let me start out by saying I do alot more print work then web work. Models are lucky to get paid for alot of print work but do it for tearsheets and exposure.. The website I shoot for, the model is paid on a percentage basis. Was looking into getting some rather well known models for Playboy styled solo work and the prices they wanted were insane, near $1k for 3-4 sets and vids that would take no more than an hour to shoot. Then other girls I know wanting $1k for g/g and $1500 for b/g scenes....give me a fucking break.

In case these dumb whores havent noticed, we are in a recession right now. They should be more than thankful for $300 an hour while the average American makes $9 an hour doing actual WORK. But these girls scoff at anything under $600. I think its about time those of you who pay that kind of money say enough! Take $300, get naked or get the fuck out and I will find another hot college girl in need of money who will. I have a feeling the prices would start coming way down if people started doing that. There is FAR more supply than demand and it will only get worse.

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer (Post 15156204)

This usually happens when she has a private and it pays way more than the shoot.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 15138196)

i agree to most of that, just one problem: my clients (usually) do not pay more per scene when a girl is really excellent. on rare occasions i can demand something extra when a girl is really expensive, but otherwise i get a fixed amount per scene no matter how much i pay to the girl. thats why we offer all girls the same money and they either work for that money or not. otherwise i would have to pay it out of my pocket - which i will not.

and we had it a lot of times that girls demanded insane amounts of money so that we had to refuse them. a few months later when they ran out of jobs they came back and worked for the standard rate

Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 15156303)

I didn't read any replies to this thread but you sound stupid. These girls don't have work lined up 40 fucking hours a week at any rate like the $9 an hour regular job shit your talking about.

Also, the average college girl wouldn't even think about doing any porn type anything unless you're talking about paying them ridiculous amounts of money. Like 10k-100k+ and then 99% of them still wouldn't do it because of moral values.

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer (Post 15156262)

Bingo! I don?t ask for rates, I contact the girl and tell her what it pays. I?ve never been turned down for a shoot. We work out a convenient schedule and make the shoot happen.

I had one girl whose boy/girl rate was $7,000.00. Rather than turning down the shoot, she told me that she would do the scene for free if her boyfriend could be the male talent. Her rationale was that she did not want anyone to know that she worked for less than her rate. She did sign a model release showing compensation of $7,000.00.

Given the current state of the economy, rates have fallen considerably in porn valley.

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15156221)

filming the content is the easy part... girls are way over paid in LA.. I am yet to fuck a girl thats worth a grand.. and ive fucked tons of girls...

selling the product is harder than filming it...

if they don't want what we offer for a scene then wendys is always hiring.. they can find their own cab ride home.. I just throw em out.. the min they start with the whole.. well im worth this blah bullshit... maybe if you other producers grew some fucking balls and just told the bitch no.. what it comes down to is most of you are still doing this to get laid most of all... so you want pussy you pay for it... it's sad really cause these girls are already mentally unstable as it is so when you feed their heads that they are worth 4 figures they think they are worth 4 figures... they are not..

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 15136492)

While I agree with you about the content being very important, it is amazing that the same girls are used in so many sites with soooo many stories... Yet the NEW girls on the scene Sell just as well and they get paid a lot less. The regular porn girls are the ones demanding that much.