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NemesisEnforcer 12-06-2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 15153200)
I had a model turn down $1,200 same day cash for a boy girl scene for one of shoots yesterday.

This usually happens when she has a private and it pays way more than the shoot.

DirtyDanza 12-06-2008 06:48 PM

filming the content is the easy part... girls are way over paid in LA.. I am yet to fuck a girl thats worth a grand.. and ive fucked tons of girls...

selling the product is harder than filming it...

if they don't want what we offer for a scene then wendys is always hiring.. they can find their own cab ride home.. I just throw em out.. the min they start with the whole.. well im worth this blah bullshit... maybe if you other producers grew some fucking balls and just told the bitch no.. what it comes down to is most of you are still doing this to get laid most of all... so you want pussy you pay for it... it's sad really cause these girls are already mentally unstable as it is so when you feed their heads that they are worth 4 figures they think they are worth 4 figures... they are not..

NemesisEnforcer 12-06-2008 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 15138411)
This is ridiculous and something I have been hearing producers complain about since precious few even knew what an "internet" was. Pay the models what you want to pay them and stop blaming others for paying more. This is still America and freedom to run your business the way you want is a sacred right of living in a capitalist society.

Here is :2 cents: so you can pay your models more.

Bingo! I don?t ask for rates, I contact the girl and tell her what it pays. I?ve never been turned down for a shoot. We work out a convenient schedule and make the shoot happen.

I had one girl whose boy/girl rate was $7,000.00. Rather than turning down the shoot, she told me that she would do the scene for free if her boyfriend could be the male talent. Her rationale was that she did not want anyone to know that she worked for less than her rate. She did sign a model release showing compensation of $7,000.00.

Given the current state of the economy, rates have fallen considerably in porn valley.

JaneB 12-06-2008 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. E (Post 15135832)
Let me start out by saying I do alot more print work then web work. Models are lucky to get paid for alot of print work but do it for tearsheets and exposure.. The website I shoot for, the model is paid on a percentage basis. Was looking into getting some rather well known models for Playboy styled solo work and the prices they wanted were insane, near $1k for 3-4 sets and vids that would take no more than an hour to shoot. Then other girls I know wanting $1k for g/g and $1500 for b/g scenes....give me a fucking break.

In case these dumb whores havent noticed, we are in a recession right now. They should be more than thankful for $300 an hour while the average American makes $9 an hour doing actual WORK. But these girls scoff at anything under $600. I think its about time those of you who pay that kind of money say enough! Take $300, get naked or get the fuck out and I will find another hot college girl in need of money who will. I have a feeling the prices would start coming way down if people started doing that. There is FAR more supply than demand and it will only get worse.



Your posting says it all. You were wanting to shoot with well known models. They worked hard to get their images and name out there. They earned the right to charge more money than a model that is fairly unknown. In any profession you get paid well when you have a good resume. The same thing goes for modeling. If you do not like the rates, then you just hire another model.

I have seen photographers who charge a a lot of money as well. Look at Dean Capture. I bet he is not cheap, but his images are well worth the money. You know when you hire him you are getting a pro. The same goes for models. You can hire a pro that can deliver, or you can hire a cheaper model that may suck. You get what you pay for. Plus calling models dumb whores is pretty stupid on your part. Those dumb whores are what people pay to see. :2 cents:

BSleazy 12-06-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. E (Post 15135832)
Let me start out by saying I do alot more print work then web work. Models are lucky to get paid for alot of print work but do it for tearsheets and exposure.. The website I shoot for, the model is paid on a percentage basis. Was looking into getting some rather well known models for Playboy styled solo work and the prices they wanted were insane, near $1k for 3-4 sets and vids that would take no more than an hour to shoot. Then other girls I know wanting $1k for g/g and $1500 for b/g scenes....give me a fucking break.

In case these dumb whores havent noticed, we are in a recession right now. They should be more than thankful for $300 an hour while the average American makes $9 an hour doing actual WORK. But these girls scoff at anything under $600. I think its about time those of you who pay that kind of money say enough! Take $300, get naked or get the fuck out and I will find another hot college girl in need of money who will. I have a feeling the prices would start coming way down if people started doing that. There is FAR more supply than demand and it will only get worse.

I didn't read any replies to this thread but you sound stupid. These girls don't have work lined up 40 fucking hours a week at any rate like the $9 an hour regular job shit your talking about.

Also, the average college girl wouldn't even think about doing any porn type anything unless you're talking about paying them ridiculous amounts of money. Like 10k-100k+ and then 99% of them still wouldn't do it because of moral values.

Major (Tom) 12-06-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer (Post 15156204)
This usually happens when she has a private and it pays way more than the shoot.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!
duke

DAMNMAN 12-06-2008 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 15138196)
i agree to most of that, just one problem: my clients (usually) do not pay more per scene when a girl is really excellent. on rare occasions i can demand something extra when a girl is really expensive, but otherwise i get a fixed amount per scene no matter how much i pay to the girl. thats why we offer all girls the same money and they either work for that money or not. otherwise i would have to pay it out of my pocket - which i will not.

and we had it a lot of times that girls demanded insane amounts of money so that we had to refuse them. a few months later when they ran out of jobs they came back and worked for the standard rate

100% on the money!!!
Even the most smokin' hotties will usually be in my studio fuckin' for rates she refused to work for 2 months earlier.

There is only so much work for a girl and once they've shot for everyone around here they usually drop their rates.

That said:

Agents have changed this on us here in florida recently by sending the girls to LA once they are done here.
Once they've been to LA they will not shoot for Florida rates 'cause they are spoiled by LA rates and want more$$$ (can't shoot 'em I'm on a budget too) or the girls come back from LA all fucked up, with the clap and they've been so abused you couldn't pay them $10,000.00 for fuck on film. Their pussy/anus is broken and they are outta the biz forever!!!!! Either way I lost the shoot.

DAMNMAN 12-06-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 15156303)
I didn't read any replies to this thread but you sound stupid. These girls don't have work lined up 40 fucking hours a week at any rate like the $9 an hour regular job shit your talking about.

Also, the average college girl wouldn't even think about doing any porn type anything unless you're talking about paying them ridiculous amounts of money. Like 10k-100k+ and then 99% of them still wouldn't do it because of moral values.

I shoot many girls who have college degrees, hell I shot 3 ministers daughters in one week. (awesome freaky little sluts to the last!!!!) I shoot average girls every day and they suck dick with above average skills usually just for the camera.

I shoot some housewives that are filthy stinking rich and they drive up in $100,000.00 cars with gold and diamonds dripping off of them, and sometimes their rich ass husbands like to watch them getting fucked in the ass buy my big cock male talent.

And as far as moral values goes does doing it in private and not on film, actually change the entire morality of an immorral act? Because it's not published.:2 cents:

I'm just sayin'!!!

gideongallery 12-14-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer (Post 15156262)
Bingo! I don?t ask for rates, I contact the girl and tell her what it pays. I?ve never been turned down for a shoot. We work out a convenient schedule and make the shoot happen.

I had one girl whose boy/girl rate was $7,000.00. Rather than turning down the shoot, she told me that she would do the scene for free if her boyfriend could be the male talent. Her rationale was that she did not want anyone to know that she worked for less than her rate. She did sign a model release showing compensation of $7,000.00.

Given the current state of the economy, rates have fallen considerably in porn valley.


wtf so she paid taxes on a 7k pay day and didn't get the money for the deal. She lost money to fuck her boyfriend.

i am sorry but that is just stupid.

Zester 12-17-2008 08:55 AM

my post was left unanswered and assumed dead

commonsense 12-17-2008 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15156221)
filming the content is the easy part... girls are way over paid in LA.. I am yet to fuck a girl thats worth a grand.. and ive fucked tons of girls...

selling the product is harder than filming it...

if they don't want what we offer for a scene then wendys is always hiring.. they can find their own cab ride home.. I just throw em out.. the min they start with the whole.. well im worth this blah bullshit... maybe if you other producers grew some fucking balls and just told the bitch no.. what it comes down to is most of you are still doing this to get laid most of all... so you want pussy you pay for it... it's sad really cause these girls are already mentally unstable as it is so when you feed their heads that they are worth 4 figures they think they are worth 4 figures... they are not..


Mr Romance :pimp

Juicy D. Links 12-17-2008 12:37 PM

i charge $500 for a girl to touch my penis

SeanHart 12-17-2008 12:55 PM

Regardless of all your points you have no content without the models. If you don't want to pay what they want then that's that. No need to bitch about it.

Undisputed1 12-17-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 15136492)
While I agree with you about the content being very important, it is amazing that the same girls are used in so many sites with soooo many stories... Yet the NEW girls on the scene Sell just as well and they get paid a lot less. The regular porn girls are the ones demanding that much.

This is the point Mr. E was trying to make. He just worded it terribly.


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