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WarChild 12-05-2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Biddy (Post 15149863)
was that necessary

Of course it was necessary. It's their traffic, and they want to make sure I feel punished. They want to feel like they're standing up for their big mouthed model and being all fatherly. I can understand that. I'm not even going to try and say Krawl was worthless traffic, or that I didn't enjoy it over the years. What I make off of cliphunter and pichunter is nothing compared to what it once was, but I'm sure I made some money off them each month. Their traffic, their perogrative.

Of course, now we see how quickly business gets mixed up with pleasure. Myself it's always business, never pleasure. Now I have to go through all my various projects and networks and partnerships looking for his links to pull. Yay a big dumb vicious circle.

Just want to know one thing up front, do you guys shut down affiliate accounts too if one of your "models" loses their temper on a board or is just submission accounts? Like if I piss off a model, can I expect you to hold payments too? Just for the public record.

TarPy 12-05-2008 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15149840)
Let me guess, you deactived my pic hunter account now?

I kind of guessed that would happen when Tom jumped in. What can I say? I dared to give my opinion on a public message board. I wasn't even overly rude about it, just saying I didn't think the model was selling it. I had no idea it was the actual model posting, or that she had anything to do with 3xtom. If you follow the actual thread, it's pretty clear who went straight over the top first.

I've only submitted to pichunter for some 5+ years, without cheating ever. Nothing else I can do short of never saying anything for fear of offending some random content girl. :2 cents:


Well, I didn't remove your account. It doesn't really have anything to do with me, but your posts brought attention to your account.

Your account, has a rule violation in almost every gallery including the one you submitted yesterday. Minor rule violation, but tons of them that clearly show you don't care about recent(6 months ago) rule changes. So, he banned it.

Either break the rules, or fuck with the admin's models... not both at the same time, right? :2 cents:

WarChild 12-05-2008 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarPy (Post 15149949)
Well, I didn't remove your account. It doesn't really have anything to do with me, but your posts brought attention to your account.

Your account, has a rule violation in almost every gallery including the one you submitted yesterday. Minor rule violation, but tons of them that clearly show you don't care about recent(6 months ago) rule changes. So, he banned it.

Either break the rules, or fuck with the admin's models... not both at the same time, right? :2 cents:

Hey, like I said, it's his traffic. My account was reviewed like what a few months ago, and I was told everything is A-OK at that time. So I figured it was. You can understand how that might be confusing. :)

everett 12-05-2008 11:28 AM

shai is even hot bloody

CaptainHowdy 12-05-2008 11:36 AM

I'd hit you...

TarPy 12-05-2008 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15149965)
Hey, like I said, it's his traffic. My account was reviewed like what a few months ago, and I was told everything is A-OK at that time. So I figured it was. You can understand how that might be confusing. :)

People were also told to read the forums, several announcements were made to read them. The change was announced in May, resubmission permitted untill August 1st, and today is December 5th. Almost everything between 8/1 and 12/5 contained violations.

Also, Pichunter really doesn't support being abusive to models, or calling them "Dime a dozen whores" or anything like that. We sell porn, the porn doesn't exist without models. I'm not going to stand around and get rich off of them, and then judge them for it.

I agree shai got madder than you, but think before you post this is an industry board, not your personal life with friends.

I tell my friends all the time that a certain model is ugly, or a bad actor, or makes funny sounds when you fuck her, but saying it to her face or in her thread, or anywhere publicly, and certainly not anywhere industry related. Because, I'd hate for this to happen to me.

Just think before you speak, if only at work. Oh, and read the submission rules of the place that send you traffic at least monthly. I would have made tom leave your account where it is if it didn't have 50 violations in it.

mrkris 12-05-2008 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarPy (Post 15149949)
Well, I didn't remove your account. It doesn't really have anything to do with me, but your posts brought attention to your account.

Your account, has a rule violation in almost every gallery including the one you submitted yesterday. Minor rule violation, but tons of them that clearly show you don't care about recent(6 months ago) rule changes. So, he banned it.

Either break the rules, or fuck with the admin's models... not both at the same time, right? :2 cents:

Seeing as I am flying a ThatOneProgram banner in my sig, and this thread is about a model from ThatOneProgram, is it bad to park my ass here and say, "See Sig" ?

Shai West 12-05-2008 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15149965)
Hey, like I said, it's his traffic. My account was reviewed like what a few months ago, and I was told everything is A-OK at that time. So I figured it was. You can understand how that might be confusing. :)

Hey WarChild, it's important that you know I didn't have anything to do you getting shit from PicHunter. Whatever happened, happened outside my circle of concern. That's the truth. I heard about it later.

You got shit from me because you dumped on me unprovoked in my own thread. I'm obviously no threat to your business, so why are you shitting on mine. So if I upset your delicate sensibilities or ruffled your feathers, I really don't care. Just know that I didn't know you yesterday when I woke up, and I will have forgotten you as soon this thread dies.

Bottom line: I am not here for drama, but I'm not gonna let anyone shit on me right out in the open either. So stay drama free around me and I'll continue to do the same. I spent six months here with NO DRAMA, but truthfully no exposure. I like the exposure but could do without the drama. I'll live in peace if I can, but dude, you ain't the only one who's built for combat.

Tarpy, do me a solid and take this PicHunter issue private. This thread was supposed to be about me and my fake Halloween set. So far, it's been everything BUT that. Thank you hun.xxx

3xTom 12-05-2008 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15149934)

Just want to know one thing up front, do you guys shut down affiliate accounts too if one of your "models" loses their temper on a board or is just submission accounts? Like if I piss off a model, can I expect you to hold payments too? Just for the public record.


This is a little absurd Warchild

We have paid every person that is owed a dime on time for 4 years now..
Public Record...
No we DO NOT hold checks

You broke the rules and have been for a long time..
You know which rule you broke, and
I just happen to be checking galleries at pichunter last night

As Tarpy said.. You have been ignoring that rule all along..
Just as alot of others are doing still.. And we are working on
getting rid of people who DON'T read or follow the rules..

I love my girls and yes i take care of them..
Yes she did go a little overboard with you
But no matter what, a model isnt a whore or a cunt
you make your living as do we all here off of their work...
Have a little respect for the ladys that do this...
Thats all I'm saying...

WarChild 12-05-2008 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarPy (Post 15150051)
People were also told to read the forums, several announcements were made to read them. The change was announced in May, resubmission permitted untill August 1st, and today is December 5th. Almost everything between 8/1 and 12/5 contained violations.

Also, Pichunter really doesn't support being abusive to models, or calling them "Dime a dozen whores" or anything like that. We sell porn, the porn doesn't exist without models. I'm not going to stand around and get rich off of them, and then judge them for it.

I agree shai got madder than you, but think before you post this is an industry board, not your personal life with friends.

I tell my friends all the time that a certain model is ugly, or a bad actor, or makes funny sounds when you fuck her, but saying it to her face or in her thread, or anywhere publicly, and certainly not anywhere industry related. Because, I'd hate for this to happen to me.

Just think before you speak, if only at work. Oh, and read the submission rules of the place that send you traffic at least monthly. I would have made tom leave your account where it is if it didn't have 50 violations in it.

I'm guessing my guys resubmitted galleries, that's the violation? You're right, I probably should have caught that. There's no excuse for it.

Porn doesn't exist without models like McDonalds doesn't exist without pimply faced burger flippers. Fortunately, a fresh batch of each turns 18 and is raring to go each week. I don't automatically give anybody respect. It's always earned, always.

It was quite obvious I didn't think I was speaking to the model, or I'd have just said "you" instead of speaking of "her". The whole conversation could have gone a different way but someone lost her temper. After that, yeah I contributed to the situation going down hill, but I'll be damned if I'm going to be told what's what with what by someone as clueless as this girl obviously is. Especially when the first thing she jumps to is basically violence. That's just fucked up.

In any case, nothing will really change. I clearly don't send you guys a lot of traffic to your affiliate programs, and really the change in traffic from losing krawl will hardly even show as a blip on the radar. I am leaving this sitatuon feeling as if big poppa Tom thought he'd be the man and hand out some punishments. I hope that sometime in the future, I get the chance to do the same.

TurboAngel 12-05-2008 11:51 AM

Wow this went south.

3xTom 12-05-2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15150137)
I'm guessing my guys resubmitted galleries, that's the violation?

No these are all NEW galleries NOT resubmits
If you want to discus it we can all you have to do is hit me up you know my information

Shai West 12-05-2008 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 15150142)
Wow this went south.

No shit....

Blood, knife, naked, shower....THESE are supposed to be the keywords in this thread. I've said what I wanted to say.

http://thumbnails8.imagebam.com/1256/44242312550133.gif

On a lighter note, your avatar is really groovy.xxx

WarChild 12-05-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3xTom (Post 15150135)
This is a little absurd Warchild

We have paid every person that is owed a dime on time for 4 years now..
Public Record...
No we DO NOT hold checks

You broke the rules and have been for a long time..
You know which rule you broke, and
I just happen to be checking galleries at pichunter last night

As Tarpy said.. You have been ignoring that rule all along..
Just as alot of others are doing still.. And we are working on
getting rid of people who DON'T read or follow the rules..

I love my girls and yes i take care of them..
Yes she did go a little overboard with you
But no matter what, a model isnt a whore or a cunt
you make your living as do we all here off of their work...
Have a little respect for the ladys that do this...
Thats all I'm saying...

Tom, I've submitted galleries for more like 7 years to pichunter. Rather, someone submits for me, but in the end it's my responsibility. Some sites allow resubmits, and I sometimes allow my employees to do that. Obviously someone was confused and did it to your site. My mistake and again it's your traffic, I'm not going to bash you for where you want to send it.

On the other hand, I get in to a fight with one of your models, and the next day WHAM here comes the punishment. You can't deny the cause and effect relationship of that. Even if it's just perceived.

mrkris 12-05-2008 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15150137)
I am leaving this sitatuon feeling as if big poppa Tom thought he'd be the man and hand out some punishments.

http://www.punisher-art.com/misc_art...ie_still_4.jpg

Manowar 12-05-2008 11:59 AM

awesome shots

Shai West 12-05-2008 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris (Post 15150056)
Seeing as I am flying a ThatOneProgram banner in my sig, and this thread is about a model from ThatOneProgram, is it bad to park my ass here and say, "See Sig" ?

Hey fucker, park your ass here and say "See Sig!!!!"xxx

WarChild 12-05-2008 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shai West (Post 15150114)
Hey WarChild, it's important that you know I didn't have anything to do you getting shit from PicHunter. Whatever happened, happened outside my circle of concern. That's the truth. I heard about it later.

You got shit from me because you dumped on me unprovoked in my own thread. I'm obviously no threat to your business, so why are you shitting on mine. So if I upset your delicate sensibilities or ruffled your feathers, I really don't care. Just know that I didn't know you yesterday when I woke up, and I will have forgotten you as soon this thread dies.

Bottom line: I am not here for drama, but I'm not gonna let anyone shit on me right out in the open either. So stay drama free around me and I'll continue to do the same. I spent six months here with NO DRAMA, but truthfully no exposure. I like the exposure but could do without the drama. I'll live in peace if I can, but dude, you ain't the only one who's built for combat.

Tarpy, do me a solid and take this PicHunter issue private. This thread was supposed to be about me and my fake Halloween set. So far, it's been everything BUT that. Thank you hun.xxx

Truth be told, I knew it was Tom, and I knew it was going to happen just as soon as I saw him post that you were one of his models. That's fair enough, he can do what he wants with traffic.

You'll notice I didn't post attacking you (the model), or your potential, your site or anything like that. All I said is you weren't selling this photo set. I still hold that's true. Take a look at the photos you posted. It doesn't have any authentic "this is blood and I like it" feel. I don't know if I can explain it any better. This set just feels a bit comical and not sexy, and that's my honest opinion. :2 cents:

ContentSHOOTER 12-05-2008 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shai West (Post 15150114)
Hey WarChild, it's important that you know I didn't have anything to do you getting shit from PicHunter. Whatever happened, happened outside my circle of concern. That's the truth. I heard about it later.

You got shit from me because you dumped on me unprovoked in my own thread. I'm obviously no threat to your business, so why are you shitting on mine. So if I upset your delicate sensibilities or ruffled your feathers, I really don't care. Just know that I didn't know you yesterday when I woke up, and I will have forgotten you as soon this thread dies.

Bottom line: I am not here for drama, but I'm not gonna let anyone shit on me right out in the open either. So stay drama free around me and I'll continue to do the same. I spent six months here with NO DRAMA, but truthfully no exposure. I like the exposure but could do without the drama. I'll live in peace if I can, but dude, you ain't the only one who's built for combat.


Tarpy, do me a solid and take this PicHunter issue private. This thread was supposed to be about me and my fake Halloween set. So far, it's been everything BUT that. Thank you hun.xxx

I would love to shoot you..... picture wise I mean:winkwink:

3xTom 12-05-2008 12:13 PM

WarChild

I have ALWAYS been fair in EVERYTHING i have ever or will ever do..
Im not big bad pappa Tom handing out punishment for having a GFY argument
with Shai...

Im not a drama oriented person..

Like i said in a previous post
I saw your stuff that was BRAND new submitted, not regenerated
they all broke the rules
so I did what i have done a million times before
I suspended your account just as i do when i find people breaking the rules

If this is important to you and you truly want to clean up your account
Like i said
Im not a hard guy to find
all you have to do is hit me up and we can discuss it..

Shai West 12-05-2008 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15150233)

You'll notice I didn't post attacking you (the model), or your potential, your site or anything like that. All I said is you weren't selling this photo set. I still hold that's true. Take a look at the photos you posted. It doesn't have any authentic "this is blood and I like it" feel. I don't know if I can explain it any better. This set just feels a bit comical and not sexy, and that's my honest opinion. :2 cents:

Again, and slowly...

IT WAS A HALLOWEEN SET...actually it was just a few pics FROM a Halloween set that never got published, due to the graphic nature of the content, WHICH I THINK IS A JOOOOOOOOOKE. I believe one of my posts here refers to that. It's a HALLOWEEN set, WarChild. You know, dress up, make believe, HAVE FUN, eat candy...They do it every year. Of course it's not meant to be serious. Dude, think about it. Just because you dressed up as a Power Ranger for Halloween doesn't imply that you wish people to ACTUALLY BELIEVE you're a Power Ranger, any more than the people here believe I would actually come after someone I couldn't even pick out of a soup kitchen blanket line with a fucking sword.

It is called INFERENCE. An ALLUSION (no, not Illusion, Allusion) to the point I was making. You know, like the " YOU IS UNDERSTOOD" concept in English GRAMMAR 101.

Its ironic that I never took myself seriously on this board...until you did.

If you can't wrap your head around that, then there's no more of a point in attempting to convince you. Dude, seriously, we both have better shit to do than spar over whether or not I'm meeting your expectations. Don't you think?xxx

Shai West 12-05-2008 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris (Post 15150188)

"You killed my son!"




"Both of 'em..."

Shai West 12-05-2008 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ContentSHOOTER (Post 15150266)
I would love to shoot you..... picture wise I mean:winkwink:

I would love for you shoot me...picture wise I mean!:winkwink::winkwink:xxx

ContentSHOOTER 12-05-2008 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shai West (Post 15150401)
I would love for you shoot me...picture wise I mean!:winkwink::winkwink:xxx

I think you're smoking hot, you would eat up or heat up the lens either way it would be a pleasure:winkwink:

Shai West 12-05-2008 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ContentSHOOTER (Post 15150512)
I think you're smoking hot, you would eat up or heat up the lens either way it would be a pleasure:winkwink:

Shooter, that is, unequivocally the very nicest thing anyone has said to me since I joined this forum. You truly just made my day. Thank you. Really.xxx

ContentSHOOTER 12-05-2008 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shai West (Post 15150547)
Shooter, that is, unequivocally the very nicest thing anyone has said to me since I joined this forum. You truly just made my day. Thank you. Really.xxx

I generally mean what I say.... If I made you day you're day, doing that for you made mine a little more special.... I wish you nothing but success with you're site. In my opinion you have that look..... It takes a lot for me to notice a model because I have shot so many over a ten year period, you simply have IT:)

Marcus Aurelius 12-05-2008 01:01 PM

Thread like this are always huge troll bait. Looks like it worked. Six pages and counting.

TurboAngel 12-05-2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shai West (Post 15150178)
No shit....

Blood, knife, naked, shower....THESE are supposed to be the keywords in this thread. I've said what I wanted to say.

http://thumbnails8.imagebam.com/1256/44242312550133.gif

On a lighter note, your avatar is really groovy.xxx

LOL


Thanks babe!



:winkwink:

JaneB 12-05-2008 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3xTom (Post 15150135)
This is a little absurd Warchild

We have paid every person that is owed a dime on time for 4 years now..
Public Record...
No we DO NOT hold checks

You broke the rules and have been for a long time..
You know which rule you broke, and
I just happen to be checking galleries at pichunter last night

As Tarpy said.. You have been ignoring that rule all along..
Just as alot of others are doing still.. And we are working on
getting rid of people who DON'T read or follow the rules..

I love my girls and yes i take care of them..
Yes she did go a little overboard with you
But no matter what, a model isnt a whore or a cunt
you make your living as do we all here off of their work...
Have a little respect for the ladys that do this...
Thats all I'm saying...


Tom I am sure many models appreciate this posting. We are not sluts and whores. I get tired of seeing models called that all the time from people who work in the adult industry. You would think they would have more respect for the men and women who they make their money off of. We do our job just like everyone else does that works in adult. We just get the fun of being naked and naughty. :winkwink:

Mutt 12-05-2008 01:30 PM

congrats to all the winners :thumbsup

mrkris 12-05-2008 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 15150827)
congrats to all the winners :thumbsup

wtf? lol

Shai West 12-05-2008 05:17 PM

I dunno...but hey, thanks for stopping by!:thumbsupxxx

Sands 12-05-2008 05:27 PM

I just woke up and I'm in some serious need of Taco Bell. :2 cents:

Bojangles 12-05-2008 05:35 PM

Awesome.

Shai West 12-05-2008 11:48 PM

Well, that about sums it up. Sleep, gentle thread...sleep...xxx


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