And honestly, come to think of it, most of the more serious vegetarians I've known (even vegans) are kinda chubby.. What's the shit with that?

This worked good for me:
http://www.mymuaythai.com/archives/the-core-monster/

Eating well and keeping your body fat low with lots of cardio.

I was doing the abs three times a week, swimming and muay thai the other days. So I did something daily but that got me too skinny. I was eating like mad and barely gaining any weight. I used to be a little overweight before.

maybe the vegans you knew ate fries and diet coke as the majority staple

goddam, I'm 5'9 and 190+ and I'm not that fat... you must be rail thin already.

Hrmmmmmmm, I guess you're right.. Vegan doesn't mean HEALTHY food.. I never thought of it like that!

We used to laugh too, that they ate only vegetables and were all strict with that, but then would go do a bunch of chemical drugs on the weekends heh

i wasn't trying to be a dick man. yes, vegan doesn't always mean healthy. I was just saying that a properly prepared raw diet for a few weeks could more easily cut the layer of fat that he wants to rid himself of. I wasn't preaching about not eating meat or dairy.

amen!

also check out this book, it will give you a good healthy diet.

http://www.amazon.com/Abs-Diet-Six-W.../dp/1579549985

he needs protein!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

although, I have a feeling he'll just look more queer..

Oh I didn't take it like that, I was just fuckin around, like I can't even imagine not eating meat.. Sorry bad joke. I guess not eating meat and crap for a few weeks would have a profound effect.. But seriously it's like all raw vegetables, fruits, nuts and tofu basically?

I stopped drinking coke and didn't really mind.. I was drinkin like 5+ cans a day.. And if I drink ONE, I need more.. But honestly I've been trying to drink pretty much water only last few weeks, and I don't really miss the sugar.. Kinda shocking. But if I have a little bit of sugar, it's like back to the fridge every 2 hours looking for something sugary.

We've met several times now you saw me lol. You carry 190 real well. Muscle weighs more than fat.

I'm 6'0 - 205 now. I hit 315 on the flat bench the other day too. I am going to crush at the Pan Ams this year. Yay me.

OMG did the Mac freak just say I would look more queer?

what weight class? gi or no gi?

Middle weight if I can cut enough Jan, Feb and March. More than likely end up medium heavy though, which is fine because in a gi I'm a pretty big 194 anyway.

Gi only, most likely.

Sure did ..
I've seen your pics ..

My aunt looks more manly :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

what's the top end at middleweight? If you can come in at the very top of the weight scale it's a HUGE advantage, but keep in mind that gi adds about six pounds.

I haven't rolled in a gi for months now.

181 is the top of middle weight in a gi. I can come in at the top end of the next class, light heavy or med heavy or whatever it is at 194 too no problem. By the time I'm done bulking I'll probably be in the 210 range anyway, so it's still 20 pounds to cut to make weight in a gi.

lol forget about middleweight unless you're ready to work yourself like a high school wrestler. You would be HUGE there though.

I've also never believed in bulking up. You want to be like a boxer or a wrestler if you're going to do big tournaments, as small as you can be while still retaining your strength. I'm retard strong at 170 but at 190 the guys are HUGE... they normally weight 210 coming down to kick my ass. I don't think I can make 170 anymore though.

Yeah I'll be coming down from the 210 range. Most guys I fight now at my own weight are no match for me strength wise though.

The only reason I'm bulking in the first place is because my weight class is less appealing to me than an open weight win :)

hey SLTR dickface. fuck you and your mom. no one in l.a. still knows who you are. that means you are a nobody. faggot.

suck a cock dickbag.

come show your face anywhere in l.a. and identify yourself to me dickwad. guarantee you don't ever.

you = shit.

all you do is talk shit sltr faggot. come on, show you face anon fag. hardly doubt you will.


no balls.


of course.



show me a good anon come back. please do.

i will shove a bro card up your ass and cut your hemmorhoids like you are one dude one cup.

come get it.

piss ant.

Who are you talking to bro ? :1orglaugh Stinky ?

jackass. don't you know, no one knows you. so you= anon troll. how does that feel?

no credibility. must hurt.


to get some.

show us a site or something or anything.
of course you wont.

keep sucking e rep dick fagola.

dont make us call your mom like we did to other surfmeisters before.

out yourself. who are you?


exactly. thats what we thought.

dickbag.

no that faggot sltr

sticky knows where i stand.

come get me faggot sltr. guarantee you cant topple me.

guaranteed.

you = no one.

you = anon until you prove otherwise.

till then. suck cock.

peace.

and with respect to nicescooter, don't assume that someone that has a six pack is a god with knowledge on how to get a six pack for you too :2 cents:


what works for him and his genetics might not work the same for you, like was said before, some people with the right genetics can eat garbage food and never work out and still have a six pack, and the guy with bad genetics can do everything in his power and still look smooth

but don't take that as an excuse, do the best you can for yourself, you should workout and eat healthy all the time anyways and be the best you can be for yourself and not compare to others that might have different genetics than you :2 cents:

good luck on your fitness and health path :thumbsup

dick sucking faggot talking losers like sltr are shit. he been hiding from us. decided to show his face. got it bitch slapped. go away sltr faggot. bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stickyfingers:

PULL UPS! -- with your legs extended straight out in front of you.

you use your whole core for pullups and with your legs as added weight it works your abs even better.

or use a pull up bar and do sets of straight leg lifts, then when you are too tired to do straight leg lifts, do knee ups.

i'm telling you, go to walmart, can prob get a regular pull up bar for $20-25.

also** everyone has a 6 pack abs underneath the fat. just gotta get your body fat percentage down lower for your whole body, and those abs will start to show.

sometimes if you do hardcore straight ab exercises alone and you're not trying to lose weight, you will build muscle on top of the fat thats already there. thats when you see the body builder guys who look like they got a gut but its really rock solid muscle.

I will be reasonable
if you never had abs you probably won’t get them, unless your life changes tremendously

eat a dick fake fuck head sltr.

you are the new troll of the week.

yes, but you also need to remember that some people have the genetics that if they try to lower their body fat percentage below a certain point, their body will start to catabolize muscle in preference to fat, resulting in a really rail thin skinny person still without a six pack

the object is to preserve or even increase lean muscle mass while lowering body fat percentage, which can be easier for some than others

I dunno I am fat but for core exercises doing crunches on a ball is pretty good
There is another ball exercise, not sure what its called but:

get into like a pressup postion but with your legs under your knees up on the ball
then basically just pull your feet in under your body and let the ball move down your legs to your feet - hold it for a second then back

you should feel that one work, it will realy work your abs

I've had abs before. I used to be quite ripped from 18 till about 25 or 26 when I started my beer drinking phase lol

A1R3K and me disagree on a number of subjects, but we know each other pretty well, and he has helped me many times when I started in this industry. If we had a major issue we would be on icq talkin it out lol. Ok time to do some exercisin lol.

there is protein in vegetables.