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dickblast 11-11-2002 12:44 PM

if u want to get into a 'political' debate on this board just bash pot smoking! :thumbsup

there r other cities/countries where its legalized and there arent the widespread problems our country thinks there would be. but then again americans cant handle drinking either, so itll be interesting 2 see how utterly irresponsible we are with bud.

:helpme

FlyingIguana 11-11-2002 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by Rory
Deleted everything I was about to post ...... but Unseen you should be looking to your state since medical use of marijuana is very legal here in Oregon. If it so deadly why are there licensed physicians suggesting the use may help some of there patients.

Rory

like many drugs, it has side effects, both good and bad. use the drug too much and you get hit with the bad side effects.

Rory 11-11-2002 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by Exxxotica
I really enjoy a nice big bong hit every now and then. However, as an athelete, the thought of tar and carcinogens on the lungs scares me to death.

I saw somebody mentioned vaporizers a few threads up. Whats the deal with those?

Can you get just as high?
Are they expensive (as compared to say... a glass bong)
Are they as enjoyable to smoke? (I love the TASTE of good buds, and blowing smoke rings)
Do they really cut down the tar and carcinogens? Or is it a myth?

I have a aroma zap that I use. I like it cause its stealth and looks/acts like a oil fragrance thing. It does get you quite high and the taste is much more evident than smoking a bong. You do blow out a bit of smoke (bout 1/10th of a decent bong load) but you are not combusting everything, rather you are just inhaling THC (and yes prolly a few other things you whiners). The thing I like about the aroma zap is that it sits there all day as an air freshner, then when I wanna go it her she is ready (some vaporizers you have to warm up before you use).

Rory
:helpme

machineg 11-11-2002 12:53 PM

those vapo's any good???????

I smoke a bowl and dont burn any weed.. well very little

I never put lighter to the weed, but to the bottom side of the metal bowl... seconds later you get this "vapour" tastes like a one of those vicks nasal vapor things. and man do you get fucked up .. way more that you would if you burn it THC evoporates at a low temp.. burning wastes something like 70% of it


I have a feeling those vaporizers are doing something you can do your self... some one let me know ...

nice herb fletch XXX , you have my mouthh watering over here..

pink_in_the_middle 11-11-2002 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by ColKurtz
But all these potheads say its so fucking harmless. People like me who pay alot of taxes will have to foot the medical bills for all these shitheads.
Thats the way it goes. Ppl are addicted to drugs or whatever and the tax payers pay for it...thats life.

ColKurtz 11-11-2002 01:04 PM

sociallism life maybe.

Morgan 11-11-2002 01:05 PM

Fletch is right. Weak minded people shouldnt go near it. You are way to succeptible to becoming a zombie, whereas some of us with stronger minds use it in the opposite manner.

bagel 11-11-2002 01:07 PM

More THC sounds like good news to me :)

cherrylula 11-11-2002 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana


The British Lung Foundation warned smoking three cannabis joints a day can cause the same lung damage as 20 cigarettes.

Bongs and vaporizers. :thumbsup

Stoners are probably twice as health conscious as the average cigarette smoker. At least I am.

Mutt 11-11-2002 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Stereotypes from old guys are silly.

I am 26, smoke a ton of herbs and havent lived with mom since I was 20. And I dont watch TV, i think it makes people think like you, its obvious from your posts. Was one of your kids or wife an addict? Your fear shows. Was dad a drunk?

you need a new hobby.

All it is , is a classic case of the old fearing the new.

No matter what your generation is on its way out old man.

Prepare for it.

We will make the laws in the years to come.

39% is close, we shall see in the future.

You dont think theyre gonna start "Drugs are bad" against Marijuana even harder now with the threat of its passing? Think about things.

Ignorance is much more damaging to your health.


hahahaha............too funny. Generation X didn't invent weed.
more people were smoking weed in the 60's and 70's, more coke as well. i love how Gen X basically couldn't think of anything to call their own so they just grabbed everything off the plate of the 60's. From pot to Neil Young who was grunge when Kurt Kobain was a gleam his daddy's eye to the clothing to practically everything else that defined GenX.

Guess what happened to the hippies when they hit 30? They became yuppies, and parents and politicians. And this generation will do the same thing. Happens man, those who don't, look like 40 year old idiots trying to grasp on to their youth.

This generation when it comes to power will be the same, marijuana will not be legalized in the United States. The hip hop wigger generation whatever the sociologists are calling it will be soccer moms and overworked stressed out dads before you know it.

pink_in_the_middle 11-11-2002 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Yeah okay. You wont live to 50. I really hope you dont, just so my point will be proven.

How old are you first.

Before I argue on this board as it seems most of you fuckers arent even old enough to drink and want to argue about the laws you dont even vote on. Only here.

When was the last time you did ANYTHING to help another person battle addiction?

I have been through AA and helped others as well as many in my family battle alcoholism, talked to others and helped many of my friends even put down syringes in serious and life threatening situations. Drug rehab and withdrawal are not easy, and I bet you know nothing of it.

You sit in your bedroom yapping your fucking mouth about the War on Drugs when you arent shit and havent been anywhere when it comes to real people with addicitons and/or problems, yet your dad was probably fucking buzzed off of Budweiser when you were conceived. Maybe thats why you think the way you do?

Take your fucking double standard and shove it up your ass boy.

Im the most aggressive fucking stoner yuoull ever meet, well maybe. Im from new Orleans where you can be drinking on Bourbon at 15, I know I was doing it. I see people wreck their whole lives for a drink, I know again because I used to do it, hence my trip to AA.

Now I clean my life up and choose to smoke a lil herbs and that makes me a bad guy now? Fuck off dude, you dont know shit. Get some scars before you talking about living pussy.

So how old are you?

hahaha

I'm of age to vote so I guess I have the right to speak.?

Fletch I think pot is addictive...sorry but it's reality.
Please don't sit there and tell me you're not adicted to it.
I know whats it's like to help ppl with addictions and yes it's very hard no doubt.

Good for you that you got yourself off the alcohol but now it seems like you're addicted to weed.
Hell I don't know you one bit but I do know you from what you post and thats just how it seems to me. I apologize if I'm wrong.

pink_in_the_middle 11-11-2002 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by tygergoddess
http://exclamationbestphonesexgirls.com/tyger2.jpg
:eek7

cherrylula 11-11-2002 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle


I'm of age to vote so I guess I have the right to speak.?

Fletch I think pot is addictive...sorry but it's reality.
Please don't sit there and tell me you're not adicted to it.
I know whats it's like to help ppl with addictions and yes it's very hard no doubt.

Good for you that you got yourself off the alcohol but now it seems like you're addicted to weed.
Hell I don't know you one bit but I do know you from what you post and thats just how it seems to me. I apologize if I'm wrong.

http://www.new-life.net/mastrbte.htm

pink_in_the_middle 11-11-2002 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by tygergoddess
Don't make blanket assumptions about people until you know them. I could come in and say I hate drunks and start mouthing off and posting study after study that says that stoners are more peaceful and less dangerous than those who drink. Would it make you put your beer down? Didn't think so!
I think it's blank assumption btw :)

You're right "stoners" are less violent then ppl who drink (in my opinion).
But that doesn't make it any less addictive.

Fletch XXX 11-11-2002 01:17 PM

Yeah lets break the stereotype also.

I dont eat white sugar, meaning refined sugar.

I dont eat sweets, I dont eat ice cream, cake, candy bars, potato chips, or drink soda. (diet vanilla soda a little now hehehe)

I dont sit and watch TV all day.

I eat tons of fruits and vegetables and love meat, and I most likely eat way more healthy than most of you. Fast food? Fuck no.

When I started smoking herbs I quit smoking cigaretts, and I quit drinking beer and eating shitty fast food and taco bell at 3 am after binge drinking.

I lost over 35 pounds and feel way more in shape. (around 150 now)

I no longer sleep in until 3 pm, I get up every morning before 9 am and do so with a clear mind and no longer have my face in the toilet. I speak only from experience.

No matter what you say, some of us live healthy, happy lives and just because we want to smoke a little herbs who the hell are you to say we cannot?

Its only a matter of time, just like any war.

Again, in Nevada it was 39%, only a fool thinks it will <i> never</i> pass.

Its all about who is using it, drug addicts will be drug addicts no matter what because the <i>real</i> problem is the Addictive Personality, not the drug itself.

You guys have never stood in front of the room and admitted your addiction have you?

Its not easy, but once you do that - then come preach to me.

Who else here has even been to AA?

None?

pink_in_the_middle 11-11-2002 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by cherrylula


http://www.new-life.net/mastrbte.htm

and...

cherrylula 11-11-2002 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle


:eek7

You seem confused by a picture of a female smoking what seems to be a marijuana joint, yet have I not seen you post pics of yourself getting dicked? Whats with the closet mentality?

cherrylula 11-11-2002 01:20 PM

No offense, but I find it a bit silly that you would scoff at someone posting a pic like that when you have posted some of yourself doing rather questionable things.

Fletch XXX 11-11-2002 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle


I'm of age to vote so I guess I have the right to speak.?

Fletch I think pot is addictive...sorry but it's reality.
Please don't sit there and tell me you're not adicted to it.
I know whats it's like to help ppl with addictions and yes it's very hard no doubt.

Did I say it was not addicitive?

Nope.

Sure I am addicted to pot. Im also addicted to money and rock and roll.

Wanna read a book?

<img src=http://www.69khz.com/images/alkybook.jpg border="1">

pink_in_the_middle 11-11-2002 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Yeah lets break the stereotype also.

I dont eat white sugar, meaning refined sugar.

I dont eat sweets, I dont eat ice cream, cake, candy bars, potato chips, or drink soda. (diet vanilla soda a little now hehehe)

I dont sit and watch TV all day.

I eat tons of fruits and vegetables and love meat, and I most likely eat way more healthy than most of you. Fast food? Fuck no.

When I started smoking herbs I quit smoking cigaretts, and I quit drinking beer and eating shitty fast food and taco bell at 3 am after binge drinking.

I lost over 35 pounds and feel way more in shape. (around 150 now)

I no longer sleep in until 3 pm, I get up every morning before 9 am and do so with a clear mind and no longer have my face in the toilet. I speak only from experience.

No matter what you say, some of us live healthy, happy lives and just because we want to smoke a little herbs who the hell are you to say we cannot?

Its only a matter of time, just like any war.

Again, in Nevada it was 39%, only a fool thinks it will <i> never</i> pass.

Its all about who is using it, drug addicts will be drug addicts no matter what because the <i>real</i> problem is the Addictive Personality, not the drug itself.

You guys have never stood in front of the room and admitted your addiction have you?

Its not easy, but once you do that - then come preach to me.

Who else here has even been to AA?

None?

Hey I'm not saying you can't. You're happy then good for you


:thumbsup

I just wanted to ask a q. thats all.

Fletch XXX 11-11-2002 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle
[B]

Hey I'm not saying you can't...I'm just asking do you think you're addicted to it? Thats' all. Could you really stop if you wanted to?

I am an addict.

Quote:


Maybe you think I have no right to tell my opinion here because I have never stood infront of a group of ppl and admitted that I'm addicted to whatever but as you say "who the hell are you to tell me I cannot".
Your opinion is only as heavy as the experience behind it.

Quote:


Just because I don't have an addiction to anything (except chocolate ;) ) doesn't make you better.
If you dont have scars you dont know how to feel.

pink_in_the_middle 11-11-2002 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by cherrylula


You seem confused by a picture of a female smoking what seems to be a marijuana joint, yet have I not seen you post pics of yourself getting dicked? Whats with the closet mentality?

No offence but I was making that face at her eye shadow.She looks pretty for what I can see of her face and I think that she could be alot prettier without so much eye shadow :)

btw I smoke pot rarely..I hate the taste...:disgust

cherrylula 11-11-2002 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle


No offence but I was making that face at her eye shadow.She looks pretty for what I can see of her face and I think that she could be alot prettier without so much eye shadow :)

btw I smoke pot VERY occasionally..I hate the taste...:disgust

ooohh ok, then it was the eyeshadow. hehehe :1orglaugh

pink_in_the_middle 11-11-2002 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
No offense, but I find it a bit silly that you would scoff at someone posting a pic like that when you have posted some of yourself doing rather questionable things.
Sweety I'm not scroffing at anyone...thats not what I ment. Relax :)

...WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY "QUESTIONABLE THINGS BTW"?


LOL sorry for the caps i'm too lazy to retype it :1orglaugh

pink_in_the_middle 11-11-2002 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by cherrylula


ooohh ok, then it was the eyeshadow. hehehe :1orglaugh

lol My minds not working today :1orglaugh I ment I hardly ever smoke pot. My bf smokes pot 24/7 ,the only thing I have a prob with is the money he spends on it, the smell and most of the time he's not all there in the head when he's high :1orglaugh

UnseenWorld 11-11-2002 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Stereotypes from old guys are silly.

...

All it is , is a classic case of the old fearing the new.

...

Ignorance is much more damaging to your health.


LOL, and WHO is stereotyping? What is NEW about smoking pot? Like smoking tobacco, it's something kids do thinking they are being "adult" by doing it. Whereas you'd be hard pressed to find very many adults who actually took up smoking while adults. It's a kid's thing to do.

Fletch XXX 11-11-2002 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld



LOL, and WHO is stereotyping? What is NEW about smoking pot? Like smoking tobacco, it's something kids do thinking they are being "adult" by doing it. Whereas you'd be hard pressed to find very many adults who actually took up smoking while adults. It's a kid's thing to do.

Like it or not, youd have no models without pot.

All the girls are straight in PDX.

hahaha

pink_in_the_middle 11-11-2002 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


If you dont have scars you dont know how to feel.

I sat by and watched my bf go through the funky chicken caused by cocain withdrawls a few yrs. ago .So while I may not have scars myself I do understand what it's like. He's been off the "blow" for 5 yrs. now :)

Sometimes the ppl close to you can give you the scars.

UnseenWorld 11-11-2002 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

When was the last time you did ANYTHING to help another person battle addiction?


You have no idea what I/we do or don't do to "battle addiction," do you. Also, show me someone who started using addictive substances without understanding that THEY were taking a risk. If someone were to help someone, shouldn't they start with those who are having a problem they didn't bring on themselves? What are YOU doing about birth defects, my friend?

UnseenWorld 11-11-2002 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Like it or not, youd have no models without pot.

All the girls are straight in PDX.

hahaha

I'm not sure what you mean...that none of them would have been conceived if their parents had been high, or what? Stop smoking your dope and restate your premise. :)

Fletch XXX 11-11-2002 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld



You have no idea what I/we do or don't do to "battle addiction," do you.

Nope, thats why I asked.

Glad to see you get involved.

Unfortunately AA and those seminar things make me upset and I dont like seeing people go through those hard times, but its something you have to face when you denounce those demons I suppose.

cherrylula 11-11-2002 01:49 PM

In pdx the girls turn 18 on stage, yeah they don't smoke pot either. :winkwink:

UnseenWorld 11-11-2002 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by .:Frog:.
Smoking pot is unhealthy, if you think otherwise your a fucking idiot.

With that said though, I smoke it.
I also Smoke cigerattes, drink too much beer and coffee. It doesn't matter really because that stuff is fun.
I'd rather have more fun while I'm young, then live a few extra years as an old man.

You're lucky if smoking is actually still "fun." As a quitting smoker friend once confessed to me, "I started smoking to feel good. Now I smoke not to feel bad."

Fletch XXX 11-11-2002 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld


I'm not sure what you mean...that none of them would have been conceived if their parents had been high, or what? Stop smoking your dope and restate your premise. :)

Dude you take pictures of young tattooed troubled girls from Portland. Are we gonna debate the physchological profile of strippers and the statistics regarding their abuse?

I know quite a few girls from Portland, all are drug addicted stripping porn sluts. Were, are now, or will be!

Am I wrong?

C'mon amigo, this isnt really that entertaining, youre like hours late.

:winkwink:

UnseenWorld 11-11-2002 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by cherrylula
Can anybody name something that IS GOOD for you, in large amounts? Hmmm?

We're talking about things which are not good for you in any amount, though. At least red wine reduces the risk of heart attack. I'm not sure what cannabis does that offsets the bad side.

cherrylula 11-11-2002 01:54 PM

In fact, why don't you shoot some stoner girl, bong smoking chicks? That content would sell like mad, there is a huge demand for it. And I doubt you would have a hard time finding girls willing to pose in Portland.

Oh wait, I forgot, marijuana is bad. :1orglaugh

UnseenWorld 11-11-2002 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Rory
Deleted everything I was about to post ...... but Unseen you should be looking to your state since medical use of marijuana is very legal here in Oregon. If it so deadly why are there licensed physicians suggesting the use may help some of there patients.

Rory

Mr. Logic arrives. They prescribe chemotherapy, too, which you'd be insane to do if you didn't have cancer. Simply because it has a medical use doesn't imply that it should be a free-for-all. I defend it's use for glaucoma, etc., and the government's objections there are silly.

UnseenWorld 11-11-2002 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
In fact, why don't you shoot some stoner girl, bong smoking chicks? That content would sell like mad, there is a huge demand for it. And I doubt you would have a hard time finding girls willing to pose in Portland.

Oh wait, I forgot, marijuana is bad. :1orglaugh

Apparently, it's not good for your memory.

DR_PHIL 11-11-2002 01:55 PM

i am glad alcohol doesnt kill you,,much better taxes for the government

RedShoe 11-11-2002 02:00 PM

I once got stoned at a bus (greyhound) station with an older gal on her way to D.C.to take, "In God We trust" off our US currency. She says God put herb here, and we should trust his creation.

We smoked a joint, and walked around 3 rd street promenade while we waited for our transfer bus. I wonder if she ever made it to washington?


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