ever known of any one commiting a violent crime while on POT? I never have.

Bank robbers? Not on pot while robbing.
kilelrs? Not on pot while killing.

It makes you too mellow. And everything seems funny.

cannabis is not bad for you...
i smoking it for over twenty year now..
not one problem!

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=87619

Time to rock.

\m/

"All in the name of liberty
All in the name of liberty
Got to be free"

http://www.letssingit.com/?http://ww...k-8mlcv3j.html

And I have sat with a relative screaming in pain from the burning of radiation and chemotherapy. And at the time she did not have access to marijuana, so instead drank an entire liter of rum. Do you think this helped her? It did not.

Maybe they need to take Nyquil off the market too.

who says everyone has an addiction? i sure as hell don't and i never have.

Out of curiousity (without going to the orgeon health department site) do you know the approved conditions for medical marijuana in oregon? Not trying to be offensive to anyone , but it seems that most people I talk to just dont know (which I think is the problem). Theantidrug.com has more advertising dollars than NORML, etc. and in our society today more advertising dollars = in most americans minds the 'more correct opinion'.

Rory
:helpme

Sorry you don't like my eyeshadow, Pink. That just breaks my heart.... NOT! I have a great bod, just not into showing it to all the world, but I don't look down on people who do. I make a living in the biz like most people here, a good living in fact. I was making a point that just cus you fire a doobie, it doesn't make you stupid or bad. It just means you enjoy it. It's my only bad habit besides biting my nails and my addiction to eye makeup. I like it better than this nature child crap I keep seeing girls wear, you know, no makeup, grungy clothes that look dirty. I don't get tossed out of bed, babe. So it's not your taste? So what, I'm not loosing any sleep over it :2 cents:

I don't drink, don't smoke cigs, don't whore around.... as for addicted? Not hardly. I don't depend on pot every day, I don't smoke every day. If I go weeks without it, it doesn't bother me. Blanket assumption is very different from "blank" assumption. A blanket assumption is when you stereotype people, something that I don't do. A blank assumption would mean brain dead, maybe? I'm not sure what your point was or why you felt the need to insult me. I don't flame you, I don't flame anyone. I'm a very nice person, smoke or no smoke.

BTW, Fletch? I've got a pic I'll post for you later from MY stash=) Your buds are pretty, but mine are beautiful. (no eyeshadow on 'em either, the green goddess is all natural).

Pass a "glaucoma" test with flying colors!
:1orglaugh

But no way, don't legalize marijuana. Then what are all those angry teenagers gonna do? Get high and play video games?

No, lets teach them violent sports and war, and to suck down budweiser like its an old family tradition. The american way.

Can you imagine the HUGE financial loss the tobacco and alcohol industries would suffer right now if everyone could legally grow and smoke their own marijuana? Seriously.

Hank Williams Sr.
Bon Scott.

Wow that triggered a cool memory for me.

Me and my friends used to get high, and play Sonic The HedgeHog. We used to be really good at it stoned. Watching his speed trails, and seeing the flickering of the rings, and the colors. and chime sounds... wow, those were the days. Not a care in the world.

Stress is the No1 killer indirectly in the modern world and brings on cancer, heart trouble etc etc. A big fat spliff at the end of a hard day and the stress has gone. And the addictive craving for a smoke lasts about 2-3 days if you give up, it's not physical and about as difficult as stopping taking sugar in your coffee. People smoke because they want to not because there addicted. we're not talking crack or heroin here

I want to thank you all for my first serious shot at the DVD player.

Well, it seem to me if you want to reduce the stress in your life, getting rid of a habit that could net you jail time, a police record, and the health risks described in the article would be a good place to start.

Good point.

Sugar was harder to quit than smoking cigarettes!

Challenge yourself and go a year without refined sugar products.

White sugar is a problem.

" Is sugar bad for you? useful links:
Dangers of sugar
Natural alternatives
The white crystalline substance we know of as sugar is an unnatural substance produced by industrial processes (mostly from sugar cane or sugar beets) by refining it down to pure sucrose, after stripping away all the vitamins, minerals, proteins, enzymes and other beneficial nutrients.

What is left is a concentrated unnatural substance which the human body is not able to handle, at least not in anywhere near the quantities that is now ingested in today's accepted lifestyle. Sugar is addictive. The average American now consumes approximately 115 lbs. of sugar per year. This is per man, woman and child.

The biggest reason sugar does more damage than any other poison, drug or narcotic is twofold:

(a) It is considered a "food" and ingested in such massive quantities, and

(b) The damaging effects begin early, from the day a baby is born and is fed sugar in its formula. Even mothers milk is contaminated with it if the mother eats sugar, and

(c) Practically 95% of people are addicted to it to some degree or other. "

http://www.organicnutrition.co.uk/ar...ad-for-you.htm

I quit sugar.

This study isn't new, its the same bullshit the US Gov't has been repeating for 20 years.

Note that there is no hard data or real studies referenced in the story.

""These statistics will come as a surprise to many people, especially those who choose to smoke cannabis rather than tobacco in the belief it is safer for them. "

Riiiiiiiiiight, like anyone does that. People smoke cigarettes because the are addicted to NICOTINE you moron. Cannabis has none.

And the funniest quote of all..

"The BLF report, published on Monday, said the health risks were worse now than in the 1960s because there is more THC (tetrahydrocanabinol), the ingredient which accounts for the psychoactive properties of cannabis, in the substance consumed today"

In a report about lung damage? LOL I'd LOVE to see the evidence linking THC itself to lung damage. There is no evidence that THC itself has ANY long term harmful effects. Its only downside is mild, temporary, short term memory impairment.

If anything, higher THC levels produce less lung damage in smokers because you don't need to smoke as much to get the same high.

You are a fucking moron if you believe any of this shit. And you think pot smokers are stupid...

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

So, your position is basically that of the tobacco company executives: "We don't believe the evidence. More studies are needed,..." etc.

When you smoke cannabis, you are taking in a LOT more than just THC. Perhaps THC pills would be harmless, but there is no way that smoke in the lungs is EVER good, and I dare you to find a study that says so.

i live in the UK and the government here has finally seen sense, and it's no longer an arrestable offence for cannabis possesion (not that it'll make much ddifference to the millions of potheads over here anyway)

You seem to be very close minded so why discuss it if you have already made up your mind? Tell me honestly though, why should the government have a right to tell me that cigs are OK, but herb is bad.

Rory
:helpme

Also scroll up and answer that question about medical mj in oregon I asked you please :)

Evidence? What evidence? You posted no evidence, the "report" contains no evidence, so where is it? Are you hiding it? lol

Fact is, you don't have any :)

You don't need to smoke it to begin with. You can use a vaporizer, or cook it into any food product containing fat. I like how you are substituting vague insinuations for actual evidence here.. wait a second, is THIS your vaunted "evidence?" lol.

But since you insist upon shifting the burden of proof because you have no evidence to support your position.. you say "There is no way smoke in the lungs is ever good"..

bzzt, this is the straw man fallacy.

Its not incumbent upon me, or any cannabis smoker, to prove its good.. because we never claimed it was. All we claim is that there is NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE of long term negative effects to justify making it illegal.

Secondly, you also make the assumption that stuff which will kill you in larger quantities is also bad in small amounts. Just because inhaling large amounts of tar, carbon monoxide and other byproducts of plant combustion daily might shorten your life doesn't mean that the same holds true for the sort of amounts which most cannabis smokers inhale.

You are making illogical assumptions rather than basing your position on evidence. So, once again, let me invite you to show us some actual evidence.. rather than burden of proof shifting and baseless opinionating.

you should try some hash cakes


do you drive a car? or walk down busy city streets? Given the choice to sit in a room full of car exhaust fumes or a room full of canabis smoke i know what i'd prefer, but i bet that doesn't stop you driving a gas guzzling motor. yeah it's not exactly good for you, but what is

Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics...

And as far as the bullshit about this being the same as the Tobacco companies cover up.. I'm afraid you are showing just what a credulous ass you are.

These tobacco lawsuits have shown that the companies knew of the harmful & addictive effects of cigarette smoke as far back as the 60's, and engaged in a systematic, organized attempt to hide and cover up the evidence.

Now, show me the "cannabis conspiracy" to cover up the negative evidence. Show me the billion dollar cannabis companies shredding internal studies, paying off lawmakers, and creating dummy scientific organizations to hide the harmful effects of their products.

Fact is, beyond showing that heavy THC use mildly impairs short term memory on a temporary basis, there is no negative evidence to cover up.

Next time, think before you speak. :)

"I enjoy a sociable drink. To be honest there isn't much else to do besides go out for a drink with people you know. Yes, I appreciate there are risks involved, but so has everything. Even driving to work in the mornings I could be killed in an accident. I don't smoke or do drugs, so I figure what's wrong with a drink at the weekends. When I do go out for a drink I know I drink too much, but that's normally just on a Friday and Saturday night."

Binge Drinking Culture.

http://www.thesite.org/magazine/spec...g_culture.html

budweiser has you!

hahaha and i just realized Fletch is on a beer run.....:1orglaugh

bottoms up

You know Fletch...who gives a flying fuck...someone posted a link about the possible health problems associated with smoking pot...let's address that.

It is you who sounds like you are fearing something...lol

And before you start spouting off about how old I am...or what "issues" I may have...I want pot to be legalized.

Sorry to be picking on you Fletch...but there's nothing more I hate than people who show off their littlle coins.

Not saying that's you...but god damn man...in the late 80's and early 90's being an addict and/or alcoholic was as big a fucking fad as being a lesbian is now.

Dude you must have missed my post in Flys thread?

<img src=http://www.69khz.com/images/nov11.jpg border="1">

I just posted it to show, I have been there, and even gave them 10 bucks for their fucking book.

I dont preach AA, but I will say before you cast stones, read the book. Go to a meeting and see men, grown men who cant have a drink and if they do they would fuck up their whole life, cry their testimony, and talk about battling the dri8nk for 40 + years shaking, their wife of 30 + years just passed away, what fucking hope do they have? Why not drink. I say until you see old addicts being held by 20 year old addicts in a room full of addicts, its harsd to justify any claim to the value of their coins.

Go listen to mothers talk about needing a drink so bad they lose their children. I know its all about a <i>choice, </i>and everyone makes their own choice. But I know Addiciton, and I have battled it my whole life. Its a very tough thing, <i>alcoholism is a disease remember?</i>

And I can relate to those people. Those litle coins might seem silly, but to some people who have no control over their actions (alcoholism) those coins keep them strong.

I have woken up shaking needing a drink, have you ever honestly woken up shaking for the need of a drink?

I admit, they do sound like a bunch of silly pussies at times, but again, as I can relate to needing to get up during sleep and have a beer to be able to sleep through the morning, I understand how bad a mouth can water...

Good God, where did you ever learn to think? Can't you see there's a difference between risks you can't avoid and those you can?

... kind of sad but at the same time kind of funny to watch

http://www.grubproductions.com/herbs.jpg

mmmm mmm mm :1orglaugh

what is that stuff?

enough for everybody ... seems tense in here:thumbsup

It's cock

trim that shit before posting... scratched my throat up just looking at it ;-)

You're welcome. :thumbsup

I was in AA for 4 years back in the 90s. I didn't drink, but really just switched addictions.

I quit smoking pot a couple of months ago, only because it is illegal. I consider it nature's anti-depressant. Probably a lot more safe than prozac. It was pretty easy to quit too. A lot easier than tobacco, which I still am trying to quit.

I got tired of getting ripped off by criminals. Funny thing is now that I've quit, I found out that the bartender of a bar I frequent is a dealer, so I can get it now no problem from someone I trust.

I'm gonna stay off it though, because I am an addict, whether it is booze, pot, sex, etc. I keep drinking and driving too... pretty stupid isn't it?

I may be off here on the facts, but I think Nixon outlawed pot and lsd to try and curb the anti-war sentiment. Or at least he put marijuana in the same class of drugs as heroin and cocaine, which is just ridiculous.

Prohibition will never work. I guess we are doomed to repeat the mistakes of our past.

I actually think Nancy Regan had it right with her "Just Say No" campaign. The only way we will help addicts recover is if we remove the criminal stigma so they can get treatment for the disease. The only way to prevent future addicts is through education, information, and family support.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be an addict if I wasn't abused as a child. But I guess I'll never know for sure.

What a depressing post.

Will you get a buzz if you just take buds and eat them or swallow them?

exactly. obesity is the number #1 cause of death in the US and Canada - by a landslide. maybe we should criminalize the use of fatty foods. the war on fat.

:glugglug

From that government propaganda organization Public Broadcasting System:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...y/policy.html:

"Respiratory damage: Marijuana smoke contains higher concentrations of some of the constituents of tar than tobacco smoke"

"Research has shown a link between chronic heavy marijuana use and damage to the respiratory system similar to that caused by tobacco."

"Cannabis impairs co-ordination. This brings with it the risk of injury and death through impaired driving or accidents such as falls...North American studies of blood samples from drivers involved in motor vehicle crashes have consistently found that positive results for THC (the mood-altering ingredient in cannabis) are second only to positive results for alcohol."

One for the ladies: "Cannabis use by women who are pregnant may affect the fetus. As with tobacco smoking, risks such as low birth weight and premature delivery increase with use."

"Recent research suggests that exposure to cannabis in the womb can affect the mental development of the child in later years. By age four, for example, offspring of women who used cannabis regularly showed reduced verbal ability and memory."

And for those of you who are so sure cannabis is nonaddictive. While that may be true for most, it appears not to be true for all: "Cannabis use has been linked to a number of psychiatric effects. The most significant is called cannabis dependence syndrome. A person with this condition will continue to use the drug despite adverse effects on physical, social and emotional health." (probably claiming there is no proof that cannabis is addictive).

It's evident that people who want to use cannabis think just like the tobacco executives, dismissing contrary evidence and dealing with contrary evidence be appearing to wait forever for convincing evidence to come in, the question being is there really ANY evidence which would convince them at all?

From a study by the British Lung Foundation (discussed at http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click...216& set_id=1):

"Cannabis is more dangerous than tobacco and smoking three joints of pure cannabis is as bad for the lungs as 20 cigarettes, a medical study by the British Lung Foundation said on Monday."

"When the cannabis is mixed with tobacco, the effects are even worse, the study - titled A Smoking Gun - discovered."

(blah, blah)

"'These statistics will come as a surprise to many people, especially those who choose to smoke cannabis rather than tobacco in the belief it is "safer" for them,' said Dr Mark Britton, chairperson of the foundation."