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12-17-2008, 01:21 AM

I have been a Silver Cash affiliate since 2003. Since about 2 years ago I noticed they couldn't convert for shit and wondered WTF? So I stopped creating new shit to promote them.

Then I got a check from them for $200. WTF? I don't actively promote them and it seems all of my old shit wasn't converting... where did this check come from?

Then I noticed not only was I not getting money for my traffic. It seems I had no traffic for the pay period. Odd.

So I loaded their domain into the browser and low and behold, they have switched to NATS.

I log in and guess what? Suddenly the measly 50 to 100 hits still going to them from 2 to 4 year old campaigns is converting like hot cakes!

I will have to discuss the fact the same traffic supposedly wasn't converting for two years and now suddenly is with them in private for now.

But until then, Kudos to you for getting NATS!
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12-17-2008, 01:32 AM

weird same thing happened to me with extremepaychecks.
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12-17-2008, 02:08 AM

nice. heard of such cases before but glad to see someone posting something like that in these times

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12-17-2008, 02:59 AM

Seen the exact same thing with a few other programs. Most recent that comes to mind is Grooby.
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12-17-2008, 03:02 AM

I remember reading few years ago how programs stopped onverting after switching to NATS...

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12-17-2008, 03:13 AM

Serve us good news.

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12-17-2008, 03:57 AM

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

I remember reading few years ago how programs stopped onverting after switching to NATS...

on the other side, when Hushmoney leave Nats for their own interface, which was much worse then nats, they stopped to convert for 80% of GFYers, including me.
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12-17-2008, 03:58 AM

Dont need to change link codes? Can leave our old codes right?

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12-17-2008, 04:28 AM

Yea I stopped promoting them as well a year or two ago because I wasn't getting any sales anymore. I was doing pretty good with that Naughty Natlie or what ever her name was.

Are they updating their sites again? It seemed like for a while there was no new promo content.

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12-17-2008, 04:30 AM

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12-17-2008, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

I have been a Silver Cash affiliate since 2003. Since about 2 years ago I noticed they couldn't convert for shit and wondered WTF? So I stopped creating new shit to promote them.

Then I got a check from them for $200. WTF? I don't actively promote them and it seems all of my old shit wasn't converting... where did this check come from?

Then I noticed not only was I not getting money for my traffic. It seems I had no traffic for the pay period. Odd.

So I loaded their domain into the browser and low and behold, they have switched to NATS.

I log in and guess what? Suddenly the measly 50 to 100 hits still going to them from 2 to 4 year old campaigns is converting like hot cakes!

I will have to discuss the fact the same traffic supposedly wasn't converting for two years and now suddenly is with them in private for now.

But until then, Kudos to you for getting NATS!

Your not using a sales tracker? My niftystats stopped reporting SC stats for about a week that's when I logged in and noticed that they had switched to Nats! It was a great move IMO! Bump for an extra 200$

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12-17-2008, 04:47 AM

Too strange!

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12-17-2008, 05:16 AM

Its nice when they don't screw you out of old link codes, most definitely.
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12-17-2008, 05:34 AM

Its more likely that some of those old links got picked up by a SE and started delivering fresh traffic to those old pages, which has happened to me many times to many sponsors over the years. But I would also say it is good to see Silvercash using nats as it makes it much easier to navigate the site.

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12-17-2008, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by teomaxxx

on the other side, when Hushmoney leave Nats for their own interface, which was much worse then nats, they stopped to convert for 80% of GFYers, including me.

no shit.. I used to make mad fucking crazy sales with them until that switch.. then POOF.. fucking sales are next to nothing..
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12-17-2008, 05:46 AM

Nice. So, now spend that $$ on something unexpected.

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12-17-2008, 06:16 AM

Very nice to see money you didnt klnow about
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12-17-2008, 06:29 AM

Thats like finding money in the back pocket of your jeans. Nice!

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12-17-2008, 06:39 AM

Since nats is something im considering id love to know how they did this without having you change links? One of my main reasons for not using nats now is because affs will have to change links but if it can be done without them doing anything it can be a big plus

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12-17-2008, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by EscortBiz

Since nats is something im considering id love to know how they did this without having you change links? One of my main reasons for not using nats now is because affs will have to change links but if it can be done without them doing anything it can be a big plus

If you talk with the NATS guys I'm sure they'd be only too pleased to go over the options with you. It can be done pretty painlessly.

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12-17-2008, 07:39 AM

escortbiz I had affiliates on both epoch and ccbill before I got nats, and nats added php codes on my sites/servers to catch the old link codes and pass them over to the new nats code for that affiliate..it was rather easy.
the only issue I had with ccbill was not all webmasters personal info got imported over properly so we had to email all the affiliates and have them login to the new nats system and update or re-enter their info to get paid.

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12-17-2008, 07:41 AM

i think it was only the ccbill affiliates who had personal info hidden checked in their ccbill account. but I believe alot of them hide this info.

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12-17-2008, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by EscortBiz

Since nats is something im considering id love to know how they did this without having you change links? One of my main reasons for not using nats now is because affs will have to change links but if it can be done without them doing anything it can be a big plus

1) Import old users into NATS maintaining usernames
2) Create translation database or array for old trackingID > new NATS campaignID
3) Create script to generate new NATS code ie:

function generateNatsCode ($siteID, $campaignID) {
$programID = 1; // default program
$natsid = str_replace('=', '', base64_encode($campaignID.':'.$programID.':'.$site ID));
return $natsid;
}

4) Do a redirect to the new NATS URL with NATS ID intact. ie:

$natslink= generateNatsCode ($siteID, $campaign);
$url = "http://www.domain.com/track/$campaignID";
header("Location: $url\n\n");
exit;

5) Have apache run this script whenever an old ID is requested...

Shouldnt be too complicated to do.

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12-17-2008, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by stever

escortbiz I had affiliates on both epoch and ccbill before I got nats, and nats added php codes on my sites/servers to catch the old link codes and pass them over to the new nats code for that affiliate..it was rather easy.
the only issue I had with ccbill was not all webmasters personal info got imported over properly so we had to email all the affiliates and have them login to the new nats system and update or re-enter their info to get paid.

so in the meantime it still tracked their sales thou?

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12-17-2008, 08:08 AM

correct it never missed tracking sales...just the sales show up on their nats account
which is the same user/pass as their ccbill account..they just need to be advised about logging into your nats program in the future to check sales, update their info so you can pay them.

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12-17-2008, 08:09 AM

Its great to get those unexpected payments from out of nowhere.

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12-17-2008, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by jscott

Dont need to change link codes? Can leave our old codes right?

yup yup, you can leave the same old codes you had in place before the change to NATS and they will work just fine

Originally posted by crockett

Yea I stopped promoting them as well a year or two ago because I wasn't getting any sales anymore. I was doing pretty good with that Naughty Natlie or what ever her name was.

Are they updating their sites again? It seemed like for a while there was no new promo content.

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12-17-2008, 08:34 AM

Maybe its the 200.00 webmaster referral. I guess it kicked in once the the affilaite made a sale or 2

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12-17-2008, 08:46 AM

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