bye bye TUBE SITES

i did this for a friend.. i dont benefit from it..

however, if sexsearch still supports zango, i will remove them from my sig immediately..

Same i was thinking of

A Crash & Burn Party. I like it.

Everyone bring marshmallows to toast over the glowing embers. :thumbsup

That part is how it works generally I believe. In the UK, Spain and Eire at least.


Ultimately the seller is supposed to charge the customer the VAT on the purchase, he then pays that back to the government. The seller is just acting as a collector if you like.

Not sure how far back they would go either. I know the UK used to be able to get unpaid VAT upto 7 years back at least. Maybe that has changed.

The reason I think MaDalton mentioned 5 years is because I think it was 2003 that George W. signed the US up to this agreement. :)

If US companies haven't been charging the VAT in the first place to EU customers then they could potentially lose upwards of 25% of their income made from EU sales. 25% is the current highest VAT rate of any EU member country.

Use AWE they're good converting. SEE SIG.

Don't you just love that GWB? :1orglaugh

This is a great thread and on the bigger picture, Paul nailed it :thumbsup

Yep. US webmasters that this applies to and are flying into the EU in 2009, I suggest you make your point-of-entry country one of the lower VAT rate countries first, maybe Cyprus, Luxembourg or Spain. It might save you a fortune :)

LOL :) :upsidedow

Bet they are not the only ones :)

Im not sure it would only go back 5 years, thats a matter for debate for people much more informed than me.

As far as I can tell, it would go back as far as that country where they were "evading tax" states, because the law in that country has always stated they need to pay the VAT.

So that could be a long way back, limited maybe to the record laws of VAT, which in the UK would be 7 years back tax, not sure how long it would be in other EU countries.

A LOT of webmasters and US based countries are in for a big shock. :upsidedow

A truly crazy idea. :1orglaugh

sorry, you are wrong

looks like it ...:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/11...r-500-million/


And yes, Bell was involved in the fuckup of Ibill .... tough no mention of it on his wikipedia page

Any official word from AFF??? I need a "canned" statement to feel better.

Guys, $ 130 AFF pay per initial order only, report said about 1M users, who pay last 9 months every month about $ 19. Not so bad, I think, not so bad.

what makes people think that sexsearch and dating gold and tons of other knock offs that will spring out of no where won't snatch up those spots. i bet the fling people are salivating. nothing will change on tubes. they aren't going anywhere.

paul markam has alzheimers. either that or he's just really clueless.

My only thought would be that it's played out. Maybe they will step up. But none of those companies have ever offered prepaid spots at the same money as aff was. So even if they do step in they won't pay the money that those sites are used to. And that's bad news for us tgp guys too, we're the ones who cut prepaid spots in the first place with sponsors long before torrent sites even existed. A lot of us don't have much traffic anymore (it's all at the illegit tube sites), but the tiny handful that still do are gonna feel the pinch too.

DANGO ZANGO! right to the money! anyone involved with ZANGO
shud be struck by lightning! :thumbsup

I'm not saying they did or did not. So what makes you think if they don't work for AFF they will work for a company selling the same product or even a company selling videos memberships?

I'm not saying they did or did not work, however it's clear that AFF was not the cash cow many think, including the people who bought it. It never produced the profits expected to clear the debts, which I suspect was the plan.

What people have to stop thinking is traffic is not king if it costs more than it returns. It's only good if it costs less to acquire than the surfers spend. Will Sexsearch, DG, Fling or anyone else buy the spots on the Tube sites?

Yes and unless we have the balls to bring down Tubes why should they not buy them? The price they pay will be governed by what the spots are worth. The days of funding adverts to look like a successful company are long gone.

Here are ways affiliates and sponsors can fight Tubes and bring down the effects Tubes have on them. One is to win back some of the paying members by giving them more. Two is by people sending traffic to companies supporting Tubes to stop sending it. Three is to start hitting Tube sites with so many DMCAs they have to employ people to deal with them and further strain their bottom line.

What will make no difference at all is just posting on GFY. And even with alzheimers I have more ideas than you. :321GFY

Spot on.

Over the next 2-3 years the West is going into economic slow down and maybe worse. There will be millions of people looking at what they spend. People looking to buying porn memberships, joining dating and web cam sites and all this is going to make the Exec's at other companies look very long and hard for places to cut expenditure. Adverting on the Internet is one of those places and because it can be easily tracked advertisers know if it works.

While the people who might buy porn decide not to they will be still wanting porn to satisfy them. Tubes are an excellent place to do that. So with less advertising revenue and more surfers will the economy do what we were unable to do? Break the Tubes.

Time will tell.

agree with you...

Wow. Amazing.

:helpme

Are we going to hear anything about this from an AFF or Penthouse representitive?

They dropped payout after all to 75.

I hardly promote them anymore..

Bahahahahah!!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :321GFY AFF

That Wont happend ever

this was a funny thread

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Here is the answer...

Reminds me of the movie "Boiler Room"....lol

Looks like aff still working fine.

yep the thread starter needs to post proof after bashing aff

Nice bump.

:disgust

out out...

This thread is fucking lame, AFF rocks!

replace your AFF links with Ashley Madison

huge payouts and plenty of mainstream media exposure

well i hope they dont go under i make a killing on cams.com hehe

fuck this garbage affiliate program.I`m glade the piece of shit dissapear.

a million dollars is worth shit for them... 1 million dollars if 0.2% of their debt.

420 millions is not pocket changes.

:2 cents:

When this thread started many here said AFF would close within 90 days and were pretty sure of it.

Now that they are still operating and sending checks out as usual nobody is saying anything?

Why is the sky always falling in these forums?

I just got a weird e-mail from AFF. I almost never hear from the company, and this just came out of the woodwork last night...

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WWC Bako - you fucking suck. Good luck selling the same content that is available for free on all those piracy sites AFF keeps in business.