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tranza 12-29-2008 06:11 AM

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andy83 12-29-2008 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15252950)
Thank you for enlightening us all with your words of wisdom, and no solution whatsoever to the problem.

Me, I'll be happy if AFF goes under, because of all of the damage that they have wreaked upon legitimate people in the adult biz, while enriching the scumbag bottom dwellers whose existence is based upon stolen content and advertising subsidies by greedy companies without a conscience.

ADG

very well said. :thumbsup

mikesinner 12-29-2008 11:06 PM

Traffic is traffic to a lot of cam and dating sites, not just aff.

WarChild 12-29-2008 11:20 PM

The best part is that people are guessing at what actually makes money on tubes, but as far as I can tell none of them own any tubes or have any tube traffic.

People come to tube sites to see porn. Not to get dates, not to buy toys and not to buy DVDs. Porn memberships are the biggest sellers on tube sites. Now I know, it flies in the face of what you believe is true. Trust me, you don't know shit.

Think of it like this. I like coffee. I make a pot every morning. I also like to go to starbucks. If you set up a cart giving away cups of coffee absolutely free, right in front of starbucks, I'd walk right passed and buy the Mocha I want at starbucks.

Profits of Doom 12-29-2008 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15260399)
The best part is that people are guessing at what actually makes money on tubes, but as far as I can tell none of them own any tubes or have any tube traffic.

People come to tube sites to see porn. Not to get dates, not to buy toys and not to buy DVDs. Porn memberships are the biggest sellers on tube sites. Now I know, it flies in the face of what you believe is true. Trust me, you don't know shit.

Think of it like this. I like coffee. I make a pot every morning. I also like to go to starbucks. If you set up a cart giving away cups of coffee absolutely free, right in front of starbucks, I'd walk right passed and buy the Mocha I want at starbucks.

If you are referring to me, trust me I am not guessing. Just like you aren't willing to reveal what tubes you can convert on, neither am I. I was just putting it out there how many ways a tube site, and a Rapidshare blog or forum, can be monetized. I know porn memberships sell on those sites, but so do dating, cams, penis enlargement, VOD, etc. I have personally converted on all of those, some far more than others, but all of them to an extent. In addition to private deals I won't get in to, I have bought traffic via text links from Madison Ave and Black Label Ads on many tube sites and Rapidshare blogs and forums, and I have been able to convert all of the programs I have mentioned...

WarChild 12-29-2008 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 15260450)
If you are referring to me, trust me I am not guessing. Just like you aren't willing to reveal what tubes you can convert on, neither am I. I was just putting it out there how many ways a tube site, and a Rapidshare blog or forum, can be monetized. I know porn memberships sell on those sites, but so do dating, cams, penis enlargement, VOD, etc. I have personally converted on all of those, some far more than others, but all of them to an extent. In addition to private deals I won't get in to, I have bought traffic via text links from Madison Ave and Black Label Ads on many tube sites and Rapidshare blogs and forums, and I have been able to convert all of the programs I have mentioned...

I'm not really speaking to anyone specifically. There does seem to be a whole bunch of people that desperately believe tube sites only sell dating memberships and that no tube surfers are ever willing to buy porn members. It's absolute ignorance at it's finest.

thaifan99 12-29-2008 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15260459)
I'm not really speaking to anyone specifically. There does seem to be a whole bunch of people that desperately believe tube sites only sell dating memberships and that no tube surfers are ever willing to buy porn members. It's absolute ignorance at it's finest.

They need to go look at xtube and see the flood of videos from sponsors cutting out the affiliate if they believe that.

Profits of Doom 12-30-2008 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15260459)
I'm not really speaking to anyone specifically. There does seem to be a whole bunch of people that desperately believe tube sites only sell dating memberships and that no tube surfers are ever willing to buy porn members. It's absolute ignorance at it's finest.

I think the major ignorance is that they believe it is all freeloader traffic, period, and that you can't convert it to anything. People stumble on to tube sites all the time, and not just broke people. If you see something you like there, chance are you are only going to see a few videos tops. If you have some money in your pocket you are going to join the site to get more. There are a ton of ways you can convert the traffic, and because there is so much of it the throw it against the wall and see if it sticks method applies..

WarChild 12-30-2008 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 15260490)
I think the major ignorance is that they believe it is all freeloader traffic, period, and that you can't convert it to anything. People stumble on to tube sites all the time, and not just broke people. If you see something you like there, chance are you are only going to see a few videos tops. If you have some money in your pocket you are going to join the site to get more. There are a ton of ways you can convert the traffic, and because there is so much of it the throw it against the wall and see if it sticks method applies..

Bingo. Everytime I seem someone post that tube traffic is worthless freeloaders, I just snicker. It's never anyone that has tube traffic, it's always those who do not.

slapass 12-30-2008 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15260497)
Bingo. Everytime I seem someone post that tube traffic is worthless freeloaders, I just snicker. It's never anyone that has tube traffic, it's always those who do not.

I know I trust your opinion on this.

qxm 12-30-2008 12:52 AM

shit mon... and I already had my "celebrate good times, common!" song ready to blast the roof .. :(

Ron2k1 12-30-2008 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15260497)
Bingo. Everytime I seem someone post that tube traffic is worthless freeloaders, I just snicker. It's never anyone that has tube traffic, it's always those who do not.

I fully agree with all posts of Warchild.

A few months ago I would have said tube traffic is impossible to converts because of all the large movies.

I was completely wrong.

It seems many of the GFY people here have absolutely no clue what tube visitors are actually doing.
You would probably think most of them will try to watch as many free content as possible.

They won't. I found out the majority of tube visitors will do something like this:

They like a few niches and will go search straight for those niches, once they found some movies
in their niche they like, they bookmark those few vids. And watch them over and over again and again

But after jerking off a few times on the same FLV movies, they often want more of the same girls in high
quality and they will join the paysite.
You won't believe hoe many visitors will type in the URL they find in the clips manually in the addressbar
of their browser. (I thought barely anyone will do this, but I was completely surprised about the traffic volume
from those 'type-ins')

Now, I'm not gonna say tube traffic is the best to get, but at least it's better then regular TGP traffic.
MUCH better.

cashcows 12-30-2008 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 15254090)
Well, I'm leaning toward believing that if AFF could not make a serious profit with
all it's branding and recognition and database then no clone script is going to do
anything.

People join the site because they think other people are there already.
I don't see that just throwing up a script is going to do that because wouldn't
plenty of people have done it already a take AFF market share away?


I just saw this thread. I had no Idea. Where did you get this info All I see mentioned is an IPO not a bankruptcy.

But if AFF is going under it's becuase their site sucks! They advertise one thing and then the site is BS. You don't make money by ripping of your customers. You make money by selling a quality product.

AFF is the worst dating/hookup site ever the women on their are either fake profiles or fat old ugly women that you would not want to even talk to.

I have pulled many women from myspace, hot or not but I never even got a reply on AFF when I tried it. That told me right there something was wrong!

Where is the link to the full story

Paul Markham 12-31-2008 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cashcows (Post 15260679)
I just saw this thread. I had no Idea. Where did you get this info All I see mentioned is an IPO not a bankruptcy.

But if AFF is going under it's becuase their site sucks! They advertise one thing and then the site is BS. You don't make money by ripping of your customers. You make money by selling a quality product.

AFF is the worst dating/hookup site ever the women on their are either fake profiles or fat old ugly women that you would not want to even talk to.

I have pulled many women from myspace, hot or not but I never even got a reply on AFF when I tried it. That told me right there something was wrong!

Where is the link to the full story

Your experience with AFF is something that can be applied to many sites, not just dating, on the adult Internet. Many sites have looked at getting traffic, converting it before what the sites is selling and what the members need.

But if you're spending a lot of money on getting people to the door, from male dominated areas on the Adult Net, do they have the money, time and profile to get women to sign up?

brassmonkey 12-31-2008 02:23 PM

wake up dude

Major (Tom) 12-31-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15254026)
The assumption that tube sites make most of their income from dating sponsors is simply that, an assumption.

You idiots are dreaming if you think losing AFF will make any difference at all.

Very true. Im sure it will pinch them some, but far from tits up.

Duke


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