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Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 15281905)

You know how many times I heard this will fuck the industry or that will fuck the industry and somehow we move forward more innovative then before the events :thumbsup

How can we be innovative whenwe give away our product for free?

Hard times ahead as porn goes soft?

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...egoryid=1&cs=1

Economists are citing some dire portents of a recession these days, but they've missed one indicator I find especially disturbing: The porn business has suddenly gone flaccid.
The drop in porn rentals and sales is worrisome on several fronts: Till now, porn has been a recession-proof business. Further, with the country already in a dispirited mood, the fact that porn has gone limp may indicate a true plunge in consumer confidence.

DVD porn is down between 10% and 30%, depending on which nook and cranny of the business you scrutinize. Joy King, executive vice president of Wicked Pictures, and a smart analyst of the business, says the smallest dropoff is in "couples-friendly porn" -- films that embrace something of a storyline. Women account for roughly half of this audience, making their purchases in lingerie boutiques and toy stores (no, not kiddie toys).

By contrast, that sector called the "gonzo" side of the business is in serious need of fiscal Viagra. Guys with an appetite for "gonzo" are going unrequited, which may help account for the closing of many DVD emporiums like the Movie Galleries in the Midwest.

One beneficiary of these trends is online porn -- a business that's lofty in traffic but shriveled in terms of revenue. With sales declining across the landscape, employees at big corporations have a lot more time to check out the three-minute porn clips flashing across their computers. To the serious porn players, some of these clips are beyond hardcore -- they're, well, mega-gonzo.

Porn proprietors are doing what they can to meet their business challenges. Wicked Pictures, for example, is recycling its biggest hits, so customers can acquire "Space Nuts," "Manhunters" and "Flashpoint" in one svelte -- well -- package.

At the same time, other producers are cutting production costs and special effects. Since these films already are made on skimpy budgets of $50,000 to $75,000, these cuts are not welcomed by the porn filmmakers. At the same time, some of their actors won't mind completing their tasks in one take, rather than wrestling through three or four.

Still, veterans of the porn trade are edgy about the downturn. A generation ago, they recall, when authorities cracked down on "Deep Throat" and closed many of the porn palaces, the country promptly fell into a serious recession. Economists attributed this setback to the ups and downs of energy prices, but porn analysts insist other sorts of fluctuations play a more urgent role in consumer confidence.

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 15258087)

Tell you what, we'll work on cutting down on the free hardcore porn if you'll stop bringing anymore noobs into the industry, deal?

Amen to that.

Too many adult webmasters already is part of the problem.

Fuck the noobs.

I bet if people started spamming mainstream forums, newspaper site comments and other mainstream sites with links to free tube sites I bet something gets done really fast.

Anyone selling a tube site mainstream or adult

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 15278245)

actually i have very little invested in adult i am looking at it from the outside without any bias influencing my decis
The fact is the selling of content in a world where fair use is protected means your content can be given away

The fact is nash equilbrium results in an ever increase supply of given away content.

conversely if you are a traffic guy the more content that is given away, the more page views you get, the more inventory you have to sell the more money you can make. If conversion ratios drop that means people have to buy more traffic from you to get the same result. Which means increased demand.

As a result if you are a content producer and you refuse to figuire out a way to make your content a traffic vehicle you are going to get eaten alive.

Conversely if you do figuire out how to do this (branding bugs, process monitization, product placement) then you become a competitor to existing traffic guys.

As an alternative choice money that would normally have to flow to the traffic guys (because ratios suck) would move to you because it is more productive.

Look at product placement in the television enviroment. As commercial ads become less and less effective product placement is becomming more and more expensive. A bigger and bigger portion of the development budget is comming from product placement. And traditional advertising agencies are competing with product placement agencies for the same customers.

If i was truely heavily invested in the traffic side, i would posting all kinds of threads like this one, trying to sucker as many of you guys to stay away from turning your content into traffic sources.

I would be making arguements like there is no product placement in porn because mainstream advertisers would not be willing to advertise in porn (ignoring the fact that mainstream advertisers are not going to buy the ads on porn torrent sites/ or porn tubes either)

But i keep pointing out that you should be targeting the advertisers who are supporting the traffic guys. Competing against them for their money.

the problems you are concerned with (low ratios, loss of exclusivity) are not problems for the traffic side of the business. Which means they will not be problems if you convert your content into a traffic source.

Ads will pay for it all, it was tried and failed.

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15285720)

Ads will pay for it all, it was tried and failed.

i am sorry but so far no one has done it properly

look at the responses from people

paul said he tried to get people to donate sex toys and lube

mutt mentioned a&f for his solo girl site

basically both said i am a world class moron who does not recognize the basic concept of product placement

1. place a product that is relevant to my content audience

sex toys for women and womens clothing have no appeal in a porn video targetted to guys.

so of course it failed. What they did was the eqivalent of selling viagra pills on scooby doo cartoons.

it did not fail because the idea would not work, it failed because the people doing it were just plain stupid about it.