Originally Posted by Bama (Post 15286239)

Well, there are 2 answers for that question depending on if you're a webmaster or program owner:

If you're a webmaster:
We run an incredibly complex set of custom scripts that is integrated with NATS that tracks what site the member joined. That then interfaces with the billing company that processed the join. In our case, we're currently using CCBILL, EPOCH and WTS. At the point of the rebill, we look at what site the member has at the top of their Cartel list and if it's the same site, we leave them as a member of that site. If it's another paysite, we remove access to the first paysite and move them over to the new one.

This is not like an AVS however - they do not get access to any/all paysites in the system. Only the one they joined and any "bonus" sites that might come with that join from the same program.


If you're a program owner:

Imagine Paul, an adult webmaster with a network of 10 free sites, sends ?Little Lucy Paysite? 50 joins per week. Paul works hard to match his traffic to the appropriate paysite but has never heard of your webmaster program so he?s not promoting any of your paysites. You, as a program owner, make absolutely no revenue from Paul, know nothing about him, or how good his traffic is.

Now consider if ?Little Lucy Paysite? and your paysites are in the cartel. Those 50 members per week could read one of your paysites review and after enjoying ?Little Lucy?; they move their membership to one of your paysites. You?re making revenue from Paul?s hard work now ? money you?d never had made otherwise.

Paul sees that his members are frequently moving over to your paysites and decides to take a look at your webmaster program and is drawn to your different program offerings & payouts and promotional material.





They're joining through AdultCartel. We run our own join pages and billing and may or may not use processors that the actual program uses on the sites.




They absolutely do. Not only do they get access to the actual members sections of the site they joined, they get all of the content we have to offer as well.



The first thing I did was sit down with Epoch, CCBill and WTS and explained what we were going to do and how we wanted to do it. They took it to the powers that be and came back to me with a list of explicit requirements that I must follow for each site in the program. We've done that and is why I said in a previous post that there are tons of steps that I have to do for each site we add into the program :)





No, we run our own processing and then pay the program owners and webmasters ourselves.

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15286382)

Interesting. Doesn't XPAYS have a patent on this model? Or is this different?

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 15286420)

Very Interesting.. So if a member is at lets say Twistys.. And they want to check out Rhino Pays.. and decide they would like to go back to twistys.. Can they do that as well?

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 15286420)

And also do you have clips we can use on our legal tube site ?? Also do you offer free hosting on my domain ?

Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 15286505)

Earn 10% When A Customer Rolls Their Membership Into Another Program hmm?

Originally Posted by collegeboobies (Post 15286605)

Tip: Dont use fake tits in ads :)

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15286676)

Adult Cartel says 50% recurring ($12.43 recurring)

Andi Pink is $34.99 with AdultCartel and $34.95 through PanchoDog. I get 60% recurring (consoles) with Panchodog. Am I earning less by using AdultCartel?

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15286774)

How does 50% of $34.99 = $12.43

Originally Posted by Bama (Post 15286799)

We earn a few dollars per join too! Not enough per join for the all beef hotdogs, but if I can catch some chili on sale, it makes the turkey hotdogs taste fine...

Brujah, Read paragraph 2 and 3 of our TOS - it explains things!

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15286825)

I'm not trying to come across as an unreasonable affiliate or anything, but I want to make sure that I actually make more money and not less

Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15286836)

What a great idea. Both honest and profitable at the same time.
I bet rebills will be multiple times better

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15286882)

Why will rebills be higher? Same membership area, same price. What encourages the member to cancel and hop over to another site?

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15286882)

Why will rebills be higher? Same membership area, same price. What encourages the member to cancel and hop over to another site?

Originally Posted by EDepth (Post 15286918)

Is there a minimum length of membership per site, ie. 30 days before switching?

Originally Posted by Bama (Post 15286911)

You're totally missing the point - they don't have to cancel to jump from paysite to paysite.

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 15286902)

I am getting a lot of these: http://nats.adultcartel.com/undefined at various parts of the site.

Concepts is smashing though, checking into it.

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15286925)

If you already have, don't worry then. I'll go back through and read the thread in more detail later maybe.

Originally Posted by Bama (Post 15287050)

Brujah,

Creating Your Adult Cartel

Creating your Cartel is easy! When you find a member's section that you like, click on the "Add This Content To My Cartel" button on the details page of every review (just below the numerical overall score) and access to that premium content will be added to the the bottom of your cartel list of member's section accesses.

Simply move accesses up, down or remove them from your list. At the end of the month, the member's section at the top of the list will be the premium content you have at the start of the next billing cycle. Keep in mind that the access you currently have will always be at the top of the list unless you remove it (or move it down) and you'll continue to have access to that member's section.

So I can set my Cartel up and have access to (for example)

Bros Fucking Hoes (this month)
Teen Dreams (the following month)
Web Young (the month after that)
40 Plus 50 Plus (the month after that)
HDTV Hotties (the month after that)
Real MILF Sex (the month after that)
Monster Loads (the month after that)
Red City Nudes (the month after that)

8 paysites from 8 different programs. Prior to AdultCartel, if a user wanted to be a member of those 8 sites he'd have to join them manually (and separately).

With us, he's a member of the AdultCartel - so as long as he remains a member - each month he gets to roll into a new members area since all of those sites are in AdultCartel.

In order to get that 1 member to those 8 different paysites, it would be damned difficult (as a webmaster) for you to send the same member to each of those sites to become a member. He'll join from a banner on your site this month - join from someone else's banner on their site and so on and so forth....

So... if industry average is about 2 months per join - you'd have 1 rebill month. (Join month+second month maybe..)

The other webmasters would have the same.

With AdultCartel, he can roll them seamlessly so you alone are the referring webmaster and you alone earn the 7 rebills instead of another webmaster and that is assuming that they'd only want access for 1 month prior to rolling. If the industry average is 2 months, that would be 15 rebills for those same 8 sites that you alone would earn..

That's just generalized math used for the explanation btw...

Make sense now or am I to close to things to explain it adequately?

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 15287006)

Holy shit... amazing

The first breakthrough post I've seen on GFY for ever. This is awesome, must have been a LOAD of work to get it ready. This is very very very good for non impulsive buyers retention.

Originally Posted by Bama (Post 15286451)

Yes ma'am - they sure can!



We don't yet but they do plan to offer both! We're importing as quick as my little fingers can type :)