sounds like webmasters earn less per join but might earn more if the retention rates are higher. personally i dont like consolidating links to 1 program, would rather spread things out to minimize risk.

No sir, I don't think you're being unreasonable at all. This type of program doesn't exist in the adult community and doesn't work the way all the others do so questions will certainly need to be answered.

I just made a pot of coffee and will be here most of the night to get to all the ones that I can. I wouldn't expect anyone to put all their eggs into our basket because we don't have all of the payout choices the other programs offer. I designed the program to be that way.

It's all about choices for the webmasters. We won't fit into everyone's business model but for those that we do, they should do very, very well :thumbsup

Why will rebills be higher? Same membership area, same price. What encourages the member to cancel and hop over to another site?

What a cool idea. Will sign up as an affiliate and I'm probably interested in trying one of my sites out in your system too. Congrats on innovating :thumbsup

I am getting a lot of these: http://nats.adultcartel.com/undefined at various parts of the site.

Concepts is smashing though, checking into it.

Because I believe when he is faced with the two options of either canceling the subscription or check out a site he have (hopefully) see some previews to over the last month, I think there is a bigger chance of him rebilling

It's like if you had a magazine subscription, but had the subscription to the magazine-STORE rather than one specific Magazine.

You're totally missing the point - they don't have to cancel to jump from paysite to paysite.

Is there a minimum length of membership per site, ie. 30 days before switching?

Yeppers, a regular monthly billing cycle.

Why will they stick with Adult Cartel, and hop from one site to another? How are you promoting or handling the other sites to members of Andi Pink for example? You assumed the member will stick with Andi Pink for 2 months earlier. What happens when they decide to stop recurring? How are they hopping around to other sites? Is it an offer they're given prior to cancelling? during their membership? upon cancellation? Can you give more detail about this? If you already have, don't worry then. I'll go back through and read the thread in more detail later maybe.

That's the flash header that does that and I'm not too sure why when the links aren't broken. Back button/click again usually works. I'll look into why again.

Very interesting concept. Look forward to hearing how it works out for people.

Hit me up on ICQ and I'll give you a user/pass

Go and see for yourself how it works - play with the system - create your own Cartel!

Holy shit... amazing

The first breakthrough post I've seen on GFY for ever. This is awesome, must have been a LOAD of work to get it ready.

This is very very very good for non impulsive buyers retention.

Brujah,

Creating Your Adult Cartel

Creating your Cartel is easy! When you find a member's section that you like, click on the "Add This Content To My Cartel" button on the details page of every review (just below the numerical overall score) and access to that premium content will be added to the the bottom of your cartel list of member's section accesses.

Simply move accesses up, down or remove them from your list. At the end of the month, the member's section at the top of the list will be the premium content you have at the start of the next billing cycle. Keep in mind that the access you currently have will always be at the top of the list unless you remove it (or move it down) and you'll continue to have access to that member's section.

So I can set my Cartel up and have access to (for example)

Bros Fucking Hoes (this month)
Teen Dreams (the following month)
Web Young (the month after that)
40 Plus 50 Plus (the month after that)
HDTV Hotties (the month after that)
Real MILF Sex (the month after that)
Monster Loads (the month after that)
Red City Nudes (the month after that)

8 paysites from 8 different programs. Prior to AdultCartel, if a user wanted to be a member of those 8 sites he'd have to join them manually (and separately).

With us, he's a member of the AdultCartel - so as long as he remains a member - each month he gets to roll into a new members area since all of those sites are in AdultCartel.

In order to get that 1 member to those 8 different paysites, it would be damned difficult (as a webmaster) for you to send the same member to each of those sites to become a member. He'll join from a banner on your site this month - join from someone else's banner on their site and so on and so forth....

So... if industry average is about 2 months per join - you'd have 1 rebill month. (Join month+second month maybe..)

The other webmasters would have the same.

With AdultCartel, he can roll them seamlessly so you alone are the referring webmaster and you alone earn the 7 rebills instead of another webmaster and that is assuming that they'd only want access for 1 month prior to rolling. If the industry average is 2 months, that would be 15 rebills for those same 8 sites that you alone would earn..

That's just generalized math used for the explanation btw...

Make sense now or am I to close to things to explain it adequately?

Makes a lot more sense now. I'll let it simmer a bit and take you up on a user/pass to check it out later. This will help tremendously in explaining the advantages to members.

Thanks much and you're right, it's been a ton of work and I still have lots to do but I'm up for it!

Very very nice... One could run an entire site just promoting this, and never need anything else.. Very great concept by two of industries leaders.. I will be pushing you guys for sure !!

Got my attention...

Then again... so did MofosCash...

Gentle Bump for the night owls.

I am VERY impressed. This should retain like a mofo.

Congrats Bama and PK!

Oh and mad props on making this all work from the back end POV.
Must have given you guys a fair amount of headaches.

awesome stuff bama!

btw if i dream of cock all day and night, does that make me gay?

Thanks all...

Bama will be the first to whine...er complain... er...explain ... that this idea has not been a breeze to accomplish. I don't know why I have the headache when he's spent the vast majority of the hours behind the keyboard.

But then.. isn't it always the woman that gets the headache?

Hmm.. you ask Bama this because he knows about dreaming of cock all day and night, right?

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Sounds like a pretty awesome idea. Congratulations on the launch :thumbsup

Very Interesting concept, Congrats to all parties involved. This should be a sure hit :thumbsup

Very Nice!! Congratulations Bama and PK on your release.

Is there a webmaster referal? I cant find links anywhere :helpme

It looks great!!

We are ver happy to be a part of this! This is going to be crazy :)

great work!:thumbsup

Awesome concept!

Couple questions..

-Do all sites have full membership option only? (so that we don't end up getting 50% of a $1 trial that doesn't convert to full membership)

-Any plans to offer an epassporte payment option in the future?

Thanks

A very creative idea and well executed!

Grats to you both.

Congrats guys, I know alot of hard work has gone into it! :pimp

Woa, congratulations.

Don't recall seeing anything really new here for a long long time!

My little suggestion: make it very, very, VERY (!) clear that the list of sites is worked through in a monthly sequence, rather than concurrently. If potential members see lists of multiple sites they may think it's some sort of horrible cross sale setup. :2 cents:

Thanks K-man and nope, that only shows that even in your subconscious, you're concerned for your fellow man!

very interesting concept. Good luck with it PK

Hey Herandrea,

No, there isn't a webmaster referral portion to the program. This decision was one of the harder ones that I had to make when designing out the software. There was a set amount of $'s to work with from the billing price.

Of that, we take a few bucks off the top and then split the rest 50/50 between the program owner and the webmaster.

The webmaster always earns their 50% no matter what site the member rolls their membership section into but the program owners do not. The owner of the members section we're currently using that month earns the other 50% and that can change from month to month who that will be.

I decided to pay the program owner a 10% per month bonus once the member rolls out of their membership section because it was their site that brought the member into the Cartel but we pay that from our pocket and not yours. That of course makes our margin smaller but in the long run it's for the better.

I will be adding some additional revenue models to the system to help increase webmaster revenue opportunities such as when our rates decline with the processors, pass along the savings to you guys.