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AngusAl 01-06-2009 08:22 AM

I love this idea............just signed up!!

3xTom 01-06-2009 08:23 AM

awesome bama

Bama 01-06-2009 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xTom (Post 15287980)
awesome bama

Thanks Tom and I want to get your sites into the Cartel. You've got some great sites that convert well and it'll help my chances to get some TrishaUptown kisses at the Florida show!

:winkwink::pimp:winkwink:

Europeeing Lee 01-06-2009 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bama (Post 15286239)
No, we run our own processing and then pay the program owners and webmasters ourselves.

suppose I am a site owner

if you are paying everyone yourself, what would I be getting as a program or paysite owner? it can't be a huge chunk....well, either you all are getting a REALLY small cut of the sign up or the paysite owner is, my guess is it is the paysite owner

Bama 01-06-2009 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Europeeing Lee (Post 15288014)
suppose I am a site owner

if you are paying everyone yourself, what would I be getting as a program or paysite owner? it can't be a huge chunk....well, either you all are getting a REALLY small cut of the sign up or the paysite owner is, my guess is it is the paysite owner

Nope, you'd be wrong. We take the smallest cut. This is a rev-share program and that means rev share for us too. I didn't want the program to be set up to where we siphon off the profits and leave you (or the webmasters) hanging.

When I post a picture of my new car - I want that to follow your posting of your 2 new cars..

Shap 01-06-2009 08:43 AM

Congrats on the Launch! I know how hard you worked on this :) Looking forward to being a part of it :)

Europeeing Lee 01-06-2009 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bama (Post 15288024)
Nope, you'd be wrong. We take the smallest cut. This is a rev-share program and that means rev share for us too. I didn't want the program to be set up to where we siphon off the profits and leave you (or the webmasters) hanging.

very nice :)

Bama 01-06-2009 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15288035)
Congrats on the Launch! I know how hard you worked on this :) Looking forward to being a part of it :)

Thanks very much Shap. I'm THRILLED to have your sites in the program!

HotMeghan_GL 01-06-2009 08:59 AM

nice program! congrats and best of luck to all. :)

Bama 01-06-2009 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 15287830)
Awesome concept!

Couple questions..

-Do all sites have full membership option only? (so that we don't end up getting 50% of a $1 trial that doesn't convert to full membership)

-Any plans to offer an epassporte payment option in the future?

Thanks

No, we're not offering trials to the surfer. They pay full price and you make full commission. Epassporte is a payment option but it's a hidden one that we'll activate on a per webmaster basis.

Every time I read a thread about a scamming webmaster, Epass is almost always associated with them as the payment option they chose so when they see that it's not a default payout option, perhaps that will help dissuade them to some degree. Established webmasters - no problemo'!

asl 01-06-2009 09:15 AM

Congrats, it looks good.

Too bad you don't have any webmaster referral program :(

AK 01-06-2009 09:42 AM

Congrats Bama and PK, I know how hard you guys worked on it. See u guys in Vegas!

kowalsky 01-06-2009 09:46 AM

What a great idea! Awesome!

Congratulations guy for what you got!

NY Jester 01-06-2009 09:49 AM

Very nice concept. Congrats PK and Bama

OMG Jim 01-06-2009 10:33 AM

Congratulation on the launch Bama & PK,

I guess I'll have to take this off my predictions for 2009. Looks like you guys have successfully executed a new business plan the creates a Win-Win-Win-Win situation for Program Owners, Webmasters, Yourself and most importantly the MEMBER!

What a breath of fresh air for a change! :)
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tdude 01-06-2009 10:48 AM

Congrats to both. With so much solid expereince between Beth and Bama, no doubt this program is solid and will hit the ground running.

Nick-Mindgeek 01-06-2009 11:10 AM

Kitty.

Really good stuff from you!

I will be keeping an eye out for this!!!

Princess Ellisa 01-06-2009 11:13 AM

I am so late posting here but am really happy to be a part of this exciting new business model and money maker :)

Congrats on the launch Bama and PK... hope to see you guys in Vegas! xo

Far-L 01-06-2009 11:21 AM

Bama and PK - Huge congrats! Innovation has certainly been lacking as of late so this is a perfectly complimentary renovation of the paysite model.

If you are still interested in us being involved then please hit treasure AT homegrownvideo DOT com up so she can help get what you need for us to take part. Many thanks!

PersianKitty 01-06-2009 03:38 PM

Bumpage, I'm so excited!

trishauptown 01-06-2009 03:52 PM

Congrats!!!

RRRED 01-06-2009 04:06 PM

See all the sweating in Florida was worth it... I know how long and hard you've worked. Wow it's been a long time. I'll get with you in the next day or two. I hope we can contribute heavily to cartalwhorism. :)

Congrats! :thumbsup

Connor 01-06-2009 06:10 PM

Nice to see some innovation... good luck with the new program. Looks like you're off to a good start.

calmlikeabomb 01-06-2009 06:25 PM

When I read your initial post this made my spin tingle and my face grin.

It's very inspiring seeing such a revolutionary concept being introduced to the industry. As a programmer it's not the affiliate program itself that excites me, but instead the reassurance that this industry does want to evolve by introducing new concepts and not just watch itself fall apart.

I love what you have done and feel this is a huge step in the right direction.

- Best of luck

RedSkorpio 01-06-2009 06:31 PM

Congrats on the launch what a great concept !!

Bama 01-06-2009 06:48 PM

Here are some screen's of the members area. Design was by $tanDaMan's AdultDesign team.

See how spot runs!

This is the main members area page for a Papaloads join. By joining Papaloads, the member also gets access to their other sites and they are listed below.

http://www.adultcartel.com/boardimages/shot1.png


This is our movies page. They get large, small, flash and accompanying image sets.

http://www.adultcartel.com/boardimages/shot2.png

This is our newest reviews (additions to the Cartel) page. From here, the member can click on any site to get the details of that paysite and some sample images

http://www.adultcartel.com/boardimages/shot3.png

Here is the detailed paysite page. Notice the "Add This Site To My Cartel Button". This is how the members choose which sites to roll into the following months.
http://www.adultcartel.com/boardimages/shot4.png

Here is the members Cartel page where the list of upcoming site accesses is listed. They can move sites up or down or delete them if they change their mind.

http://www.adultcartel.com/boardimages/shot5.png

charlieb 01-06-2009 06:54 PM

BUMP for a Awesome idea! :thumbsup

cj_purve 01-06-2009 08:02 PM

Wow great concept ... the technology behind that must have been fun to write!!!
Congrats to everyone involved!

cj_purve 01-06-2009 08:18 PM

I couldn't see this in the thread when I skimmed it so sorry if I'm asking something that's already been answered, but how does this work technically from the pay site owners side? ie how does the authentication work to allow members to switch sites. Would we have to add an additional custom script to our signup process or do you work in with our setup or do we have to be setup a particular way? I have a few different paysites working on different systems. A few use a simple htaccess file and some post and store details in a database. Is there somewhere we can see a simple tech explanation of how its setup?

Jarmusch 01-06-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bama (Post 15288104)
No, we're not offering trials to the surfer. They pay full price and you make full commission. Epassporte is a payment option but it's a hidden one that we'll activate on a per webmaster basis.

Every time I read a thread about a scamming webmaster, Epass is almost always associated with them as the payment option they chose so when they see that it's not a default payout option, perhaps that will help dissuade them to some degree. Established webmasters - no problemo'!

Interesting, so this would be the first way to promote ccbill sites and get paid by epassporte, is this correct? :)

One more question: In addition to banners and FHG's, is there also free content (pics and vids) for all the sites in the cartel, and if so do you also give members area access for webmasters to grab fresh content?

18teens 01-06-2009 08:29 PM

Great concept. I signed up and will start promoting tomorrow.

Bama 01-06-2009 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj_purve (Post 15291148)
I couldn't see this in the thread when I skimmed it so sorry if I'm asking something that's already been answered, but how does this work technically from the pay site owners side? ie how does the authentication work to allow members to switch sites. Would we have to add an additional custom script to our signup process or do you work in with our setup or do we have to be setup a particular way? I have a few different paysites working on different systems. A few use a simple htaccess file and some post and store details in a database. Is there somewhere we can see a simple tech explanation of how its setup?

We add a custom script on your server that allows us to write to (and remove) members monthly. Different programs use different methods to do that (IE create a separate file just for us). It's got tons of security lock downs. Topped off with we use Strongbox on our side before they even get to see the generated user/pass issued. It doesn't matter how you authenticate, we have scripts for just about every setup and if by chance we don't, we'll create it. I don't show the script or go into more technical aspects of it to anyone who's not in the Cartel though :upsidedow

Bama 01-06-2009 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 18teens (Post 15291193)
Great concept. I signed up and will start promoting tomorrow.

Excellent! Thanks. If you have any questions, feel free to holler!

jakethedog 01-06-2009 08:47 PM

Another amazing idea from the one and only true inventor of the internet .. Bama kicks asssss...

Bama 01-06-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 15291156)
Interesting, so this would be the first way to promote ccbill sites and get paid by epassporte, is this correct? :)

We use CCBill and Epoch for our processing and have an epass payment option but alot of programs do already.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 15291156)
One more question: In addition to banners and FHG's, is there also free content (pics and vids) for all the sites in the cartel, and if so do you also give members area access for webmasters to grab fresh content?

We're setting up a custom integration script so that we can pull content down from the programs for webmasters to use. We won't be setting up user/passes for webmasters to access their members sections tho. We'll offer what they give us.

Nysus 01-06-2009 11:56 PM

I guess question I have wouldn't concern me as a promoter .. but relating to the getting "50%" or ~$12 per month recurring -- What happens if a member joins at a $24 price point and then wants to switch to a $34 price point? Program owner only getting ~$12?

Some other issues I could see existing .. but none of my concern. :) And I'm too tired to make a nice write up of it.. hehe.

It'd be cool to see how everything pans out. :) Congrats on launching. Looks like a lot of work.

Bama 01-07-2009 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nysus (Post 15291805)
What happens if a member joins at a $24 price point and then wants to switch to a $34 price point?

There isn't a $24 price point :)

mynameisjim 01-07-2009 12:56 AM

Is there a way for a surfer to get TWO paysites at once by paying twice as much? Or maybe a deal for 3 at a time?

Many porn buyers I know usually have 2 or 3 subscriptions cooking at once. I think you are missing out if you limit everyone to only being able to buy one at a time.

BTW, in the future, just explain that the members area is like a Netflix que, should save some time and typing :)

Great idea and implementation by the way.

TampaToker 01-07-2009 12:57 AM

Pretty neat concept in my mind. But i think i will pass on this program. Considering your background in spyware and the complex nature of this set up :2 cents:

PersianKitty 01-07-2009 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 15291951)
Is there a way for a surfer to get TWO paysites at once by paying twice as much? Or maybe a deal for 3 at a time?

Many porn buyers I know usually have 2 or 3 subscriptions cooking at once. I think you are missing out if you limit everyone to only being able to buy one at a time.

BTW, in the future, just explain that the members area is like a Netflix que, should save some time and typing :)

We've talked about allowing for a twofer or threefer deal and it will likely be something to happen in the near future. I'm sure it will be something members will ask about once the see all the sites available to choose from.


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