QUOTE=uno;15309052]You must be taking your meds lately or your husband is posting for you again. You're making sense and its kind of scary.[/QUOTE]


Greg does not post for me and never has. He really does not like this website at all. I guess my Xanax must be working today. :winkwink:

Must be, it's nice to see you sane and rational.

Turned out I was given to much medication. I am much better with just a low dose of Xanax. It is nice to feel normal again. :thumbsup

send it to collections...

Oh definitely, too much can be a very bad thing.

so sunny said that there are 2 side

why hasent she said hers?

jw

One hell of a post going on here
 

Great post loads of views and replies!

drama..................Sunny is at AVN all week..I'll ask her if she's even seen this thread lol...

She's posted in it, so odds are she has seen it. :winkwink:

BINGO! Those guys are far more annoying than lawyers. :thumbsup

:2 cents::2 cents:

Didn't you see them in the pics in this thread... Her left and right side you can't miss.

nownow... that's not called for :(

any developement on this one?? should this thread just get closed and now not know who did what to who? getting ripped off sucks big time

Damn this thread just keeps going.

she's my favorite.

Talent not paying their bills... big surprise...

Maybe Sunny could get a cover on Deadbeat magazine and then use the proceeds to pay down part of her debt...

http://a661.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...c08c1b92dc.jpg http://a713.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...3eb1783f30.jpg

http://www.helenmclean.com.au/news/w...eat-issue4.jpg http://www.redstripeclothing.com/img...ssue-6_fs.jpeg

:2 cents:

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Here is an interesting part to the story ...... Sunny Leone's official website ranks within the top 3 for Google with the keyword "sunny leone". The top 5 spots are always rotating but at any given time she is 1 of those 5 spots. I've checked this many, many times over the past few months.

Research shows her website is a PR3 with more than 25,000 back links and some are saying that quite a few of those backlinks may be on the shady and/or bought side. I don't know if this is true but what we do know is she paid an SEO company more than $9,000, well that's what she owes them at least ... she didn't actually seem to "pay".

I run a Sunny Leone website that is a PR2 with less than 500 backlinks, none of which are bought and I paid nothing to an SEO company and my website also is one in the top 5. For me that translates into less than 1,000 unique visitors per day ... however very high quality visitors. My bounce rate on that site is less than 30% and my sales ratios for my sponsors are less than 1:150.

So is getting in the top worth what she is being charged? Well considering I paid nothing for it and I did it without buying links and risk getting banned, then apparently it's not worth $9,000. I am sure there are other services she performed for Sunny Leone that will explain the large bill which are probably outlined in this thread but honestly my eyes got to tired from trying to read all 6 pages. But for SEO services only no way no how should Sunny Leone or her people pay that.

In fact if these statements about back links are even remotely true then that's some major bullshit. I mean how mad would you be if you paid a company to help you with marketing and in the end they get you banned from Google for life? I don't care if buying links is common. It's illegal. Google will ban you for it and that's not putting the clients best interests at heart. You can SEO your way to the top without buying links and my Sunny Leone site is proof of that.

In fact, I also just helped a friend with a new site (less than 3 months old) go from nothing to PR4 site with more than 20,000 backlinks in 90 days without buying or even trading so much as one link.

So yes SEO can be done legally and with someone as famous as Sunny Leone who mind you was also just recently in a reality series with little Casey Parker, it could be doe so much easier. There is just no excuse to buy links for her site. I don't know if that is true and I hope it's not but if it is, and if I were Sunny Leone you would be meeting with my lawyers and my bill for those legal fees.

First of all, it doesn't matter that you think she got overcharged. She hired the company based on their current rates, went months without paying her bills and now she has a $9K bill that she wants to walk away from. She could have pulled the plug at any time if she thought she was being overcharged....did she? No!

I happen to know that her bill was for much more than SEO.

What he said :2 cents:

If i hire a plumber and as he leaves he accidently runs into my new bmw, he aint getting paid.

From the sounds of it sunny paid for "natural" seo not blackhat seo . If she recieved blackhat seo work then sh didnt get what she paid for and thus the contract is invalid. Just from reading the thread it sounds like this very well could be the case. From the wording lindsay used it sounds like thats what she was promising, looking at the backlinks that may not have been what sunny got.

Getting a domain banned that is the key to your business would be alot more costly than 9k

I happen to know that her bill was for much more than SEO. :thumbsup

MY GOD! Were you living under a rock since you joined here in 2007 :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Will there be a Pointer Advertising response to the blackhat seo claims?

well if the damage that was done thru blackhat seo and was costlier than 9k then why would you expect her to pay. If someone was hired to cut my grass for $50 and did $100 worth of damage to my window, they aint getting paid until my window is fixed. It doesnt matter what the bill is for, if the other person caused more damage than the amount you owe them the bill is pointless.

How exactly do you appraise the damage? How do you put a dollar figure on it? Just curious....

did you actually take the time to actually read the whole thread? Now people are creating a whole black hat seo story where there wasnt one. Did you read posts of the people saying the great work they do?
P.S. thats what your plumber has insurance for.So he could sue the shit out of you for nonpayment.

You need to read the whole thread. They did a lot more than just seo work. Lindsay did post as to some of the other work that was done. Once again Sunny could have stopped working with them at any point. You do not continue to use services and not pay. That is just wrong. Like I said I do not care how hot someone is, you pay your bills. Porn is full of a lot of hot men and women. I guess they should all expect thousands of dollars of free work because they are hot. (eye roll)

Here is a link to some of the stuff the pr firm has done. http://www.pointeradvertising.com/sl_case_study.html

wow, this thread went nuts - saw it initially after only 4 replies, then haven't seen gfy all weekend and it's off the page....

cliffnotes anyone?

Depends on whether when I offered to cut your grass, I mentioned the hazards that came with cutting grass, like breaking a window or two...

I have but it's a really swell rock!!!

loveing it

I don't normally post much anymore, but I had to comment that you don't know what you're talking about.

If we're talking about a really good mainstream page in a high-paying niche with a targetted keyword then this is possible, but nothing like "sexy girl" would do that.

I wish all my competitors thought like you did.

She was calling you a cunt because you made a dumbass sexist comment. It seems called for in my opinion.

I don't know you, but you are really coming off as an ignorant wanna-be player.

Example? The comment you made to the guy who said he sold a site for 7 figures how he should 'seriously' contact you because he doesn't have contact info. A presumably intelligent, successful guy like him wouldn't be interested in some asshole like you...

http://www.gramponante.com/GPImages/GPnewspix/slm11.jpg

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Wow, can't believe this has gone on this long

If the claims of tripled conversions and increased member retention made on this page are true, then that alone is worth 10 grand.

http://www.pointeradvertising.com/sl_case_study.html

It's funny how many people point out that they're not taking sides because they don't have all the information, but there's clearly a tendency to be on Sunny Leone's side of the fence. And why? Because they've met her at a show? She's a sweetheart? Grow some balls. She's not going to fuck you.

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probably because the backlinks look shady :2 cents:
i read good things about Bernard Madoff before he went down in flames :winkwink: I certainly dont judge my painting by the painting the artist did last. I would judge each painting on its own. If i was commisioning a painting i would take past work into consideration , but i wouldnt presume a painting is good just because the last one was.



and i could sue the shit out of the plumber for damages if the plumbers insurance doesnt cover the damage he caused.

If sunny agreed to a whitehat seo campaign and got a blackhat one 9k is the least of lindsays worries if the domain gets banned. The damage would be far costlier than 9k :2 cents:

not saying thats what happened but if that is what happened , a lawsuit is in the works and sunny's lawyer has told her to not discuss it. pretty simple.

or say this person did as promised and sunny just decided not to pay her and knew it wouldnt hurt her rep because she knew how blinded webmasters can be if we are talking about a hot chick? if we are speaking in theories

True, we could come up with a million theories that might explain why Sunny won't pay her bill.... yet only one of them would be valid. I think Smokey just enjoys playing devils advocate :thumbsup

who knows i hope everything is settled and it all turns out for the best.

Plenty of poor reading comprehension from people that should be smarter than they're appearing.

6 pages and no progress

Just ate a taylor ham egg and cheese with extra bacon. So, whats been going on?

glad you came out of hibernation to post that...

actually 3 signups would be too much... 2 a day would be enough to reach that number.

if you'd bother to read the following posts BEFORE you posted this I did somewhat agree that maybe the keyword was a little vague.

so you keep searching for that superhero mainstream targetted keyword which only to the small and elite few would ever possibly see a 1:1000 conversion ratio on targetted keyword.

my take originally was that the keyword was seo'd and their is value to it.

Still ne resolution on this thread?

I read it when it had only a couple repliesnow its huge. Most of the people who posted though I got to say are compete dumb fucks.

Whether or not anyone owes anyone money whats with all you fags posting stupid shit like "nice boobs" and shit. I see so many dudes get flamed on here for so much smaller and then when its a pornstar a good number of you roll out your toungues and start licking assholes. I mean shit shouldn't ppl try figuring out what the hell is going on instead of saying shit like how sexy this bitch is.

Hope this shit gets cleared up for the OP I know I would be in Vegas right now ready to whoop some serious ass if I seen the person who owed me money at one of the events.

I'm also confused about where all this blackhat SEO shit came from? Does someone have proof the campaign was shady in anyway at all or are you ppl just making excuses for Sunnny?

That's not the point here. The point is she hired a company do to stuff for her, that was her decision and hers alone. I'm sure she knew the company was gonna send bills for the service they where hired for, that's just common sence.

So hot or not..... pay your damn bills!

If the client was a fat guy GFY would be all over him, just prooves that most just follow their dick and can't think clearly when it comes to hot girls, not very smart in this business :2 cents::2 cents:

My opinion in short: Hired a company, services where provided, work was done, PAY YOUR BILLS and if she has another opinion she can always share it with us, if she doesn't that just prooves she knows she's in the wrong here :2 cents:

great seo work.. not being able to get the official site to nr1...
great work with metatags aswell: <META NAME="REVISIT-AFTER" CONTENT="2 days">

lol what a joke, i can see why she doesnt pay up.