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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15358355)

Locking down content is a joke and I doubt if it could be done and I know that a lot of sites will not do it and DVD content is still in the shops.

No, it's not a joke. It's very real and can be done with a little work. And yes, a lot of sites won't do it. I was one of those old school guys that thought with the mindset of the past. But once I saw my sales decline and my hard work being used to make thieves money on torrent sites....well, that made me think in terms of what can be done today.

I searched, I looked high and low. And encrypted streaming DOES work. It's not a joke. And if some of the "bigger" sites did it, I would be making a whole lot more money as an affiliate. As it stands now, I'm making a lot more money as a paysite owner.

The solution I had was NOT about a single girl site. There is absolutely no reason that ANY site can't go to encrypted streaming using FMS. The only hold up is the fear of losing millions of dollars in rebills through a mass exodus of pissed off members.

I thought that would happen to me too. It didn't. And since the entire site is no longer available for FREE on a torrent site, our memberships actually have value and mean something.

I'll say it one more time. This is not a theory. I'm not some new guy to the biz. I've been a player as an affiliate for as long as there have been affiliates. I know both traffic and content. I have instituted encrypted streaming and it DOES work.

How much more real of an answer could anybody ask for? I'm on the front line doing it. Everybody else is just guessing and making theories. :)

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 15357076)

The only person that I was trying to offend was BVF. If my comments offended you, I'm truly sorry. My haters bring out the worst in me...and sometimes my words cut a little too deep. For a hater, I could care less if they are offended... but for others - it was never my intention to offend anyone but BVF.

My challenge for 2009 is to figure out how to deal with all the talentless haters that frequent my threads to draw attention to themselves :thumbsup

I don't hate you...You're just an avatar on gfy that I trolled a few times for shits and giggles..Neither of our customer bases gives a fuck....So basically I'm indifferent...

And no, I wasn't offended.

TORRENTS, REPRESENT AT LEAST 80% of the online porn Illegal downloads, via azureus, and file sharing via RapidShare, depositfiles, etc.

Tubes are NOTHING when you compare them with TORRENTS and File Sharing via forums. I repeat, Tubes are nothing in comparisson to Torrents and File Sharing. More than 90% of the webmasters have the inverse picture there and subestimate torrents and rapidshare links via forums.. And over estimate tubies.

Since most people in the biz have no fucking idea about this, then we are FAR AWAY from even TRY to solve the problem.

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Originally Posted by doridori (Post 15356482)

i now accept legal tube sites @ http://flvhunt.com

I don't get it...
you spider legal tube sites and steal their content, which costs them traffic $ but doesn't get them advert $, but you're not willing to do the same thing to the ones stealing content from the studios?

you've lost me...

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 15345466)

Interesting. I'd love to see some BIG sites that use DRM as well, adult and/or mainstream.

...this thread may be way past this point, but you can still video screencapture anything that is not downloadable, and make it downloadable.

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Originally Posted by tippy (Post 15349229)

i dont know too much about this industry but couldnt something like this stop some or most of the video stealing from member areas...

As mentioned previously, people gain access to member areas via shared passwords or other means, these people looking to simply rip all the content prob. Dont plan on renewing their membership the following month or week or whatever.

What if new members had a waiting period, like say 2 months before they could actually start downloading content to their computers. The guys who signup just to rip all the content should be ticked off at this point and move on to an easier target... Obviously this wouldnt affect current members so it shouldnt bother them much and hopefully you can explain it well enough, but not too much detail to new members.

Something like that anyways, new members would only be able to stream the content, once they have been a member for 2 months they gain access to a secure section with the videos available in avi or whatever to download?

???

Mike

good idea!!!

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Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 15365144)

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yes, most people are lost.. most people do not promote programs.. most people have not seen members areas.. most people have not even been members of sites.. they just like to rant LOL

:helpme

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15354743)

Naughty America has been one of the most hurt by the tubes and torrents.

I've promoted them since they started out as Socal Cash.

Always made great money with them. Until the last year.

Now I'm 1:5,763 ratio with them.

Agreed. It is why they no longer have a studio. I emailed them three years ago about their stuff being all over the torrents and got an email saying that they were aware of it. They are the most pirated of all the big internet companies.