I was wondering about this one too. I didnt think for a minute that this guy was smart enough to obtain even 10 vids let alone 230,000.

The second I heard that some vids were 2 hours long. I immediately wanted to jab a pencil in my eye. To a gallery and freesite builder like me. Thats like nails across the chalkboard.

I don't mind the competition of tubes but 2 hour long vids :( I give up:Oh crap

all this is insane as Paul Mentioned. No truth seems to have been found..So is it leagal or not? Is there a leagal simple answer to this? Leagal or not?

We are talking about doridori here :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Just look at the videos he has on youjav.com that he's not allowed to

you'd be shocked at the amount of hypocrisy here on gfy

absolutely legal last time i checked. it follows all the TOS at the respective tube sites. Again, not my business whether they have 2 or 4 hours videos. i just collect information, a LOT of it, that by itself is meaningless. Only by choice, the owner can choose to manipulate and read the database to turn it into a humanly enjoyable format. google does it too, so you should start suing them.

i never stated i sell videos or contents. you are mistaking me for that. that is clearly different, and not what im doing. there is a big difference. no matter how you put it, this is whats going down: i am selling a database filled with texts that can only be converted to useful format by choice of the owner.

Reading this thread I have Exactly the same feeling. :2 cents: :(

If their TOS is like youtube then this is a violation because they prohibit embeding
their videos on a site that is "in competetion". Youtube gave me a violation warning
because I uploaded a video and embedded it on my tube site.

So good luck on this.

BTW :
A little bit of htaccess and a simple perl script will wipe your databse out after people
spend $400 on it.

Just look at a youtube video page and they show you the webpages that have embedded
the video. It's not hard to block the sites.

oh XSS and SQL injection? its covered. but there is a backup stored offline so by all means go ahead. now i know where to point fingers at.

who says i indexed all the tube sites directly ?

nice way to make a living asshole!

so i guess if you were selling TV's that you knew were stolen it would be ok as long as you weren't the one that actually "stole" them from the store.

fiddy.......

look.. you guys have had years to go after the source of this problem and no one has done a thing. one more person isnt going to make or break what damage has already been done..

quit wasting your time.. :2 cents:

perfectly legal...

Just like when I direct a person to a fence selling a hot TV ... super legal :thumbsup

More like if you direct a person to a swap meet. They might find stolen stuff there, it might be legit.

It would be more cut and dry if tubes sites were simply "Illegal" like people want them to be. Unfortunately the way DMCA is written many of them are immoral and wrong but probably not illegal.

Please don't start with the "everyone knows" or "it's common knowledge" about owners doing the uploading. If it were so cut and dry these "illegal" sites would be getting prosecuted. They're not yet.

Further, how is this idiot's indexing any different than what Google does? Is Google breaking the law too?

Ok, now that was fucking stupid!!!

I'm not talking about injecting anything into any site; just a simple redirect based
on referreing URLs that embed the video.

It's clear to me now that you don't really know what you are doing.

Bye.

i dont see how you can delete the db without those two methods.

Let us all know when google is selling it's index for $400. :1orglaugh

i dont think you know what your doing sortie. so it'd be best to gfy and stfu

No hard feelings, I was just pointing that out.

No shit, man. Why is this fucking idiot even here? Obviously he's on the other fucking team.


Easy.....A way for shithead theives like him to grab up some cash they have no right to.


He's not a business person anymore if he ever was, he's a full blown theif who's just afraid to commit 100% at the moment. I'm sure when he starts banking off his stolen content gig he'll be alot more forthcoming about the fact that he's a theiving fuck.


:1orglaugh thats funny. Alot better then saying "I'm a scammy fuck ball who is only here to steal your guys shit, spread it around and keep your money. By the way everyone, thanks for all that help that you were all nice enough to give me when I poped up and started asking questions about things. I'm just not willing to put in the time it would take to make an honest living doing this, so i'm gonna take what I've learned and fuck you all with it."



Fuck you. :321GFY Asshole.

That just about sums it up.

Not to mention, these scripts that scrape tube sites have been on sale for over a year. A few were even on sale here on GFY in the Buy and Sell section.

Umm not to defend Dori, but to play devils advocate how is this any different than a search engine? All he is doing is spidering (like a search engine) then providing targeted results. Yes I am sure a lot of the content from the lists he provides is not legal, but anyone saying it is illegal is a bit insane. If the sites he is indexing allow embedding, then how is this any different than say a site like http://www.viralvideochart.com/ that embeds the hottest videos right now. Viral video chart doesn't check to see whether the content is legal or not. That is up to whatever site it originates from.

This whole thread is retarded and misguided.


More people running around trying to herd cats again.

One could argue that he's actually fighting tubes by selling a 'tool' to use their bandwith and cost them money :)

im whatever you want me to be.

guess your smart afterall.

type jordan capri and bam. get ready to submit dmca to those sites.

I always enjoyed reading your posts Sticky and will continue to do so. You are one of the few in this business i would work with knowing i would be working with somebody who has the knowledge and the skills BUT i have to comment you on this post.

I think we can all asume that most of the content is illegal, stolen, etc..... Adult content people worked for and probably paid money for. How this is any different? Well, putting up a tube site is one thing, selling links (read embed codes) to illegal adult content on an adult webmaster board is another thing. It's a direct slap in the face to people who actually WORK for $$. I myself plaid with the idea of putting up a tube site but didn't. Why? Ethics! It's all we have to go on in this business. I'm not one of those who thinks "if everybody is doing it, it's ok", one less douchbag is one less... One less theif.
Sites like Viral Video Chart indeed probably has links to videos that are illegal or stolen but atleast they are not slapping it in the face like this fucked up unethical moron does. I for one will always, ALWAYS, attack those that come into this business for a quick buck hurting others by having no ethics whatsoever. No, it doesn't hurt any of us directly BUT thousands of him do. The question remains, do we just let it all slip or do whatever we can to whipe them out, one by one. I go for the last option.

so im unethical now?

how is that different then giving away usernames and passwords?

It's all the same .. it's stolen content and stolen links/codes of stolen content .. the re occurring word here is STOLEN .. get it?

Guys like me that employ hundreds in the creation of content are really feeling the pinch because of sneeks like you.

It s just wrong. Do the work .. create the content or buy it ... Tube Porn is the same as Stealing Porn ..it's wrong and immoral

sounds fucking stupid to me

So if I were to sell a database of all of the URLs to images inside the Playboy Cyber Club (assuming they could be accessed directly in that manner), that would be ok?

u just admited you were too stupid to comprehend.

if the URLs and images were made intentionally by PlayBoy (who buys this shit anyhow) so that users may copy paste it into their blogs, forums, and other places, then yes.

again, im not forcing any of the tube sites to give up their content, its readily scraping the embed links that ultimately results in more traffic for them.

doridori, one quick question...can you get more than 5 results on the page?

words cannot express how sticky this thread makes my balls feel....

t the reason i left it at 5 is because browser would crash with something around 10~15 embed videos on the same page.

but i will add those option too. so that those willing may fight tube sites by wasting their bandwith by clicking simulatneously play button on all 15 embed videos. :1orglaugh

doridor, man that is actually pretty sleazy to be doing those things man, legal or not, you do know it's wrong

not really.

does youjav.com have any videos you're actually allowed to use?

ok why not use his database to fix the problem
he is basically selling you a list of content from all the major tube sites in one single database
why not pool your money buy a single licience and use it a master DMCA list

Then not only would you be removing your content legally from the offending tube sites
but you would basically corupting his database at the same time (since the working links would stop working when the content disappers)

I don't understand the cry baby mentality here.