Peace, I want some, looks like fun.. send me glasses!

:2 cents::2 cents:

Seriously... with everything facing the industry... you think we are worried about losing market share to something that makes you jack off with glasses on your noggin?

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when trying to exit 3dorgasm i get this pop-up:

http://exits.adultlounge.com/exit/s/...ltlounge%2Ecom

then when i close that one i get this pop-up again:

http://exits.adultlounge.com/exit/s/...ltlounge%2Ecom

this happens several times like you don't think the surfer is sure he wants to leave.

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You don't understand my point. It's not about what the content looks like. It's the fact that surfers are not interested in changing. They are not going to go that extra step. I saw 3d in 1999 and it was BAD ASS. I thought holy shit this could be huge. It wasn't then and it won't be probably for a long time to come.

haha.. funny

Something like that.

I can not believe that 1999 was good quality. That time OnlY imax had good cams. Other cams just could not produse great content. Nowdays it is posible. Anyways Shap why not
just take a look at the video and think again. Of coarse for such established site like yours you do not need to change. But some new players need smth different and that could be a 3D site with GREAT QUALITY 3D with out Blur and paralax

Sorry but I DON'T think I am about loosing all of my customers to 3D..???:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Also in 1999 there was no Philips TV displays no Glasses 3D...Right? Time has come now.
I can also help you buy 3d cams and you can shoot yourself. is it not cool?

Not today. Watch the video and see for yourself. Guys speculate too much instead of downloading Free Sample and Create an opinion. So far i got 5 webmasters requested demo...


I am waiting for the first one to watch and write opinion

Hi Gleen get in touch..Can not send glasses but you can order from the list i posted

The problem with these "Techie" solutions is they are getting away from the reason most people buy porn to jerk off to porn. It's not because it's HD, 3D or any other technical hardware, it's because they want to imagine more of what the models are doing and what they could do if they were there. Sadly there are no short cuts to selling porn, it's not going to be solved by buying a new camera if the models are faking it.

The consumer who was buying on impulse because he wanted one scene to jerk off to is no longer buying, he's got Tubes. The crappiest level of image quality porn is probably winning over customers. Those surfers are not bothered if it's HD or 3D, to them it's better than what we offer.

We need to rethink what we're doing fast to win back customers. I will shoot a few scenes next week, before I start treatment, and the models who want to fake their way through the scenes will be sent home without money. Because my members hate faked porn.

Members of all sites will choose real orgasms on poor images over faked orgasms on the highest quality image. They want scenes that are different from scenes on other sites in the niche and style, they want models doing it for real, they want models who do a porn scene and need to rest for 30 minutes afterwards. You know what I mean by this.

Then you can worry about the image quality.

Because bad porn in the crispest, cleanest, greatest image quality is worse that poor porn on a poor image. You can imagine it's better if you can't see it so clearly. The job of a pornographer is to get a crystal clear image in the viewers imagination and not his eye.

WHAT PORN CONSUMERS WANT.

This is general and there are exceptions.

They want to imagine what they are seeing is real, they want to connect with the models, the action and above all the fantasy of the scene. The saying "It could happen to me." is the most important thing in porn.

This is true of lots of entertainment. When we play a computer game we want it as real as possible, when we watch a movie we often want to believe we could be the hero. A lot of entertainment is separation from reality, while being real in our imagination.

It's like we know we are not a super commando saving the world, but we are when we watch a Rambo movie. Well we imagine we could be. :winkwink:

Think about it as an example and be broad in your thinking.

The same goes for porn. The consumer wants to believe he can find girls, or guys if he's gay, he can fuck easily with his 12 inch dick and do it so well she screams the house down before fainting in exhaustion. You have to adapt that to your particular niche or fetish.

He does not imagine she's only doing it for the money, for a pornographer and is going to fake her way through the whole scene. And is about as turned on as the girls he meets every day.

The better image quality you show in porn the clearer the consumer will believe or not believe in what he's watching. Will a porn buyer go and buy 3D glasses to view 3D porn? Some will, but that porn has to be 3 times better than 1D porn to make him do it. And while you spend all your time and money getting the technical part right you're in danger of losing the main ingredient of porn. The porn.

i is liking the engrish abilit-aar

"You are about loosing all you customers to"

And lastly if you can shoot porn so good it will make a consumer go out and buy a pair of glasses to view it. You don't need a 3D camera. A VHS one will do the trick. ;)

Get my meaning?

...Interesting, this whole thread is veeery interesting... well, if my HD foot and pantyhose niche traffic goes to you, lol. I will definitely make you an affiliate of the digitaldivasonline.com network, fuck i'll even give you first page :thumbsup

Maybe the next 'ultimate' thing in porn is going to be 3D movies together with the new 'real touch' device. Yes, a lot of preparation but maybe some users will be happy to go to the effort of getting it all set up to get the nearest you can to 'real' virtual porn.
I don't think ALL porn users watch it on impulse, I'm sure some plan it in advance.

x-ray vision glasses, that is the future :thumbsup :winkwink:
any guy would buy those :2 cents:

3d theaters have been there since forever, but never really gotten beyond being a small niche product. Don't know why but masses are really not all that thrilled about 3d movies as enthusiasts of that tech think them would be.

Maybe that's because people WANT movie's image to be different from real life?

That pretty much sums it up.

Sadly that's what techies just don't get. They're convinced in the latest gizmo, feature or what ever. They lose sight of what the real target is.

Guys! 3D was never good quality before. Check the video we offer and then we can speak. No discussion is real untill you FUCKING WATCH the CLIP i am offering to see.

How can you discuss something you did not SEEEEEEE...????????
Are we busines people operating based on facts or pure bla bla bla speculation.

WATCH THE VIDEO...All you have to do contact me via ICQ or register on ClassyContent and request the video trailer to watch via Placing 3d in the Last Family field

Interesting point. But it looks like you own opinion though. Quality were not there. IMAX quality could only been done by IMAX


Now we can shoot stereo. Check the clip to discuss further

well said :thumbsup

Yes One time buy Glassed or Even AS A MEMBER get it Free. Wait 3-4 days to receive glasses Few Pair 10 pair i will send to the surfer who signs up, So he could spead it to 10 more friends.


Where are the numbers game. this discussion make me said that you guys do not think based on facts and make me happy that you do not get 3D and we will be the first to get the bucks out of it...LOL

Well Said. but 3d is not better quality it is making you imaging you are there inside. So that all fits together with what you wrote...Paul I will send you FTP to watch the trailer becuase i know you. Others need to request it. I can not just post FTP for all...

Don't put too much money or hopes in 3D :2 cents:
I lost a shitload of it years ago with 3D VHS & glasses
and in Disney world 3D movies gimme a headache each time (I feel cross eyed every time)

Even though your quality is better then anything around, people would not go to a store and get glasses. Porn is an impulse buy market. Fast, in/out, forget, next, kind of way.
Same as advertising porn sites in newspapers & magazines; just won't work.

But if you can make it a success, which I hope you will, you'll have my utmost respects.

(no need to download the movie, since there are no stores in Holland selling the glasses)

Yes all true. Why you guys web site OWNERS buy 1 3D video and post it to you sites and BONUS video and see what you MEMBERS say.


WHO GAVE YOU THE RIGHT to deside for the consumer?

You are right here by asking that question but the surfers need to go to a store and get glasses...their lies the bump in the road IMHO

See bro, you're desperate to convince webmasters to at least watch that 3d thing of yours, for free. How we're supposed to convince surfers to spend money on it?

But good luck to you anyway, do not want to sound as if I'm bashing your efforts. If that thing will finally get off the ground through your work, I'll be the first one to hat off.

P.S. And one advice - if you want people to watch that clip, just post a link to it there.

I don't have the time to go buy 3d glasses. Just like I imagine most surfers. I'd check it out if i could click and watch. But I need 3d glasses right?

Great points.

I still haven't seen the link posted for people to check it out. His first post was confusing. Go here. Go there. Order this. Get that. Watch the video. But where is the video?

And I don't think anybody thinks 3d is not very cool and entertaining. The problem is that extra step for surfers. Nobody in our industry has been able to be successful at it. Until glasses are not needed I don't see anybody ever succeeding at it.

Can not post link. You need to pay for that via Request. I am content provider. my business to sell content to you. Of coarse there will be only few guys who try that and make fortune. The rest will come back to late. but looks like you will be one in the middle making good money too with it.

Philips has 3D DISPLAY NO GLASSES. www.wowvx.com . You can order from us as well. We have exclusive deal for Russia and 50 screens network in Moscow. In NY i have a screen. Come i will show it to you! If you want to watch the clip send me ICQ request or e-mail and i will give you FTP to download. no extra step for Surfers. for 20 cents you have
glasses with Signature on the glasses http://www.3dtwistys.com/. Oki when surfer signs to http://www.3dtwistys.com/ you send him 10 pair. Cost you 2$ plus 39 Cents shipping. Surfer gives 8 pair to his friends. Word of mouth. Surfer does not do extra step. But we do smth to get smth . you do extra step to go to Movie theater becauase it is extra value.

Philips has 3D 42" monitors no glasses. www.3dtvv.com is our site. we have 50 screens in Premium supermarkets. also i have 1 screen in NY.

If i were n NY i would send glasses to you. Get them on line. Watch the clip. Then order this model below. Post on your site and have your members comments. You need something cool and new to KEEP members Right?

And that is it. But you need to watch the sample. Watch it and decide for yourself.
If you like you members will like...True?

model to order 2D and 3D as well
http://classycontent.com/image-2371-1.jpg
http://classycontent.com/image-2371-2.jpg
http://classycontent.com/image-2371-4.jpg

The two most valid points regarding 3D porn :thumbsup

Wow Peace, you are digging your own grave here... I understand there may be language barrier, but you are not making your product look any better with your rants.

Hi! Everything you wrote is strictly you opinion and i respect you right to have it and my actions have nothing do do with what you srote above.

Seeing is believing. When you check the clip we speak further.

3D PORN will be impulsive too. Glasses not a big deal. Watch 3d Porn or 3d movies you wear glasses. Where is validity of these point. Sorry do not see it.

Sorry one more thing....People always try some thing new. when rummor goes that 3d porn has quality in it. people will get glasses and glasses will be in every house.
Only takes 1 out of 100 people to try and he spreads the word.

But of coarse soon NO GLASSES Philips 42" and 20" will get to they houses. Right now they delaying because of lack of content. but since we and few others figured how to produce quality 3d
AT GREAT price, it should get going...

contact me, i'm selling scratch and sniff email.

I's hit it 2x's already!

Except that everything you are saying is coming from someone with no sales or marketing experience. We don't have to see a clip to know what will and will not make us money.

I feel like the guy is insulting me and trying to convince me to check out his product at the same time..
"you are loosing all of your $ to 3D" "I realize now you webmasters dont think with facts" etc..
Maybe if you lost the aggressive edge you would convince more of these guys.
I still think porn is an impulse buy, when my members buy webcam shows form me, they can't even wait 60 secs for me to get naked, I can't see any of them waiting for their glasses to come in the mail hehe. but good luck to u Peace!:)

Yes send me a sample. If the action is right I will buy and tell people.

You're getting people to agree with you, so let's assume you're right about our customers.

So why are we trying to sell them a recurring monthly membership that will appear on his CC month after month? No if you're right we are wrong trying to sell them what we are selling.

Porn is not an impulse buy except in the impulse of what to buy. Porn buyers are regulars at porn shops or upgrade their Cable package to get it or join sites after site. If they did not join site after site content would never get saturated in members areas. The impulse is what site to buy from, not to buy.

So will a porn buyer bother to go out and get the glasses to watch the scene? That depends on how badly he wants to see the scene, which depends on the skills of the shooter to get something very special out of the models. And if he could do that he does not need 3D or HD to sell his site. But if you give him both he is more likely to join your site than someone elses. Or the site you send him to.

Porn is not an impulse buy normally. The buyers buy the same porn time after time. It's usually the porn that triggers their fantasies on sex. They know the niche, they know good from bad, they do sign up into site after site. Often they know the next site they will sign up to. Very often they will rejoin a site they have been a member of before because they know it, like it and know it keeps updating. The only proviso is if you can't sell to this type of traffic, then your sales are pure impulse.

Does HD or now 3D make a difference to the members over the quality of the action? Yes without a doubt. The fact that I can see the scene clearer or get the feeling I'm in there is wonderful. If the scene is right. If the models are not doing it right, if the shooter is not getting the scene right and if the lighting and sound are not spot on getting it clearer is a disadvantage not a benefit. If it's bad porn seeing it clearer or getting the feeling I was there, is worse.

What sells best, porn that is a planned buy because the surfer has seen it and will buy it next time he wants porn. Or porn that's an impulse buy, in that he might as well buy this one? And please no one start telling us their sites are so good they trigger the impulse to buy amongst the non buyers. :1orglaugh

Here;s the ONLY way 3D TV and movies will work.

Current 3D Technology sucks because in order to see 3D, you must feed a slightly different image to each of your eyes. When 2 Cameras shoot the same scene (1 for the left eye, and 1 for the right eye), both images are sent to 1 display (video, movie, or magazine page for example).

To split this image back for each eye, special glasses are needed. Polarized (1 eye vertical, 1 eye horizontal) work well enough, but each eye sees only 50% of the image detail (12 frames per second in the movies, 15 frames per second on TV) as well as half the luminosity (images are darker than they should be).

This being said, 3D still sucks. When SUPERMAN came out in IMAX a few years ago, parts of the movie were in 3D. I hated the 3D scenes for each of the reasons above. Shitty image quality, too dark, bleah...

The NEW way of doing things now is with the new Flat panel TV's from Sharp and others. The latest TV's are 120Hz, that is, they displays update twice as fast as other TV's. This allows them to display twice as many frames per second, or, to display 30 frames per second to EACH EYE. And during a 3D program, luminosity is increased as well.

120Hz TV's have other value as well as the image quality is better than what is currently available. A good 120hz TV costs about $3000 and features 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio thanks to OLED backlighting, etc...

I have not seen this work in real life yet but have been reading up on it. 3D May be here after all.

Guys That is the real action. See the sample and make your own opinion. Paul I will
send you ftp info to download clip via skype