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qxm 01-23-2009 03:32 PM

.... 3D porn... I LOL'd ... but seriously while the concept is good the number one thing to keep in mind is that "people want to get off NOW... not later ...not tomorrow... right fucking now" .. and very few people have 3D glasses to watch this shit... so ... someone with wood in his pants is not going to go to the store .. get 3D glasses and come back when the mood is not there anymore... same thing applies to waiting for 3D glasses in the mail....

I wish yee good luck nonetheless .... :)

Peace 01-23-2009 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qxm (Post 15379307)
.... 3D porn... I LOL'd ... but seriously while the concept is good the number one thing to keep in mind is that "people want to get off NOW... not later ...not tomorrow... right fucking now" .. and very few people have 3D glasses to watch this shit... so ... someone with wood in his pants is not going to go to the store .. get 3D glasses and come back when the mood is not there anymore... same thing applies to waiting for 3D glasses in the mail....

I wish yee good luck nonetheless .... :)

You get glasses only ones and them watch the whole future 3dHotmovies.com. Watch samples FIRST


Guys Game is simple. Seeing is believing. Join ClassyContent and write 3D in the last family field. Watch 3D and come back and post your new

spacedog 01-23-2009 03:36 PM

Will the viewer see the cumshot flying into their own face?

cherrylula 01-23-2009 03:38 PM

looks great, fun stuff. :)

D Ghost 01-23-2009 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15376905)
.. and betamax is the future

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

XXXMovie4M 01-23-2009 03:45 PM

i love all the exit pop-ups you have! ingenious marketing tactics :thumbsup

uno 01-23-2009 03:50 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Good luck.

Peace 01-23-2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 15379294)
However instead of normal spam, which by the way you tried to spam this in a few threads yesterday. You have now walked your nuts to the chopping block to declare this will take away everyone's customers in the near future as it is the future of porn. Forget the niches, the solo girls, the scenes, if it is not 3-D they will come flocking to you.
Have you really not figured out the fail yet? I mean besides the impulse purchase issue, the need for glasses, and so forth.

becuase it is so great surfers will wait for glasses. Curiosity is strong thing. I am not spamming but trying to deliver the message. 3d Sample i offer to see is FREE and it so great that after watching it i would love to read you opinion

Peace 01-23-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M (Post 15379370)
i love all the exit pop-ups you have! ingenious marketing tactics :thumbsup

What do you mean? Which pop ups?

Manowar 01-23-2009 03:55 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15376924)
dont know, but betamax is the future


gleem 01-23-2009 04:00 PM

Peace, I want some, looks like fun.. send me glasses!

munki 01-23-2009 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 15379294)
However instead of normal spam, which by the way you tried to spam this in a few threads yesterday. You have now walked your nuts to the chopping block to declare this will take away everyone's customers in the near future as it is the future of porn. Forget the niches, the solo girls, the scenes, if it is not 3-D they will come flocking to you.
Have you really not figured out the fail yet? I mean besides the impulse purchase issue, the need for glasses, and so forth.

:2 cents::2 cents:

Seriously... with everything facing the industry... you think we are worried about losing market share to something that makes you jack off with glasses on your noggin?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

XXXMovie4M 01-23-2009 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace (Post 15379416)
What do you mean? Which pop ups?


when trying to exit 3dorgasm i get this pop-up:

http://exits.adultlounge.com/exit/s/...ltlounge%2Ecom

then when i close that one i get this pop-up again:

http://exits.adultlounge.com/exit/s/...ltlounge%2Ecom

this happens several times like you don't think the surfer is sure he wants to leave.

master_design 01-23-2009 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 15379336)
Will the viewer see the cumshot flying into their own face?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:helpme

Shap 01-23-2009 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace (Post 15379275)
Guys Game is simple. Seeing is believing. Join ClassyContent and write 3D in the last family field. Watch OUR 3D and come back and post your new opinion

You don't understand my point. It's not about what the content looks like. It's the fact that surfers are not interested in changing. They are not going to go that extra step. I saw 3d in 1999 and it was BAD ASS. I thought holy shit this could be huge. It wasn't then and it won't be probably for a long time to come.

fujiko 01-23-2009 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15376905)
.. and betamax is the future

haha.. funny

Peace 01-23-2009 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 15379336)
Will the viewer see the cumshot flying into their own face?

Something like that.

Peace 01-23-2009 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15379641)
You don't understand my point. It's not about what the content looks like. It's the fact that surfers are not interested in changing. They are not going to go that extra step. I saw 3d in 1999 and it was BAD ASS. I thought holy shit this could be huge. It wasn't then and it won't be probably for a long time to come.

I can not believe that 1999 was good quality. That time OnlY imax had good cams. Other cams just could not produse great content. Nowdays it is posible. Anyways Shap why not
just take a look at the video and think again. Of coarse for such established site like yours you do not need to change. But some new players need smth different and that could be a 3D site with GREAT QUALITY 3D with out Blur and paralax

AaliyahLove 01-23-2009 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace (Post 15376893)
Dear Webmaster,


Bad and Good news for you!!!

BAD NEWS

You are about loosing all you customers to........Strereo 3D Video sites!!!


GOOD NEWS

Finally 3D video is coming to life. After 2 years of shooting 3D finally we have figured how to shoot perfect stereo.

SOLUTIONS


Solutions is to give them chance to see video where they can really use both
their eyes rather than dull old 2D video.
Watch SAMPLE 3D video and then decide whether you would want to go back to watching a flat image. It's just so much more real and in stereo too!


Please register at ClassyContent.com and enter 3D in the last name field when you register. We will then send you the FTP details to download a FULL 3D Solo Toy Video.

Many sites have tried 3D such as www.3dOrgasm.com and www.Banging3D.com, but it's not the same quality as we are now able to deliver.


You can get 3D Anaglieph Glasses for 10-30 cents and enjoy real 3D stereo porn videos.
Note that you will need to have WInRar Software to unpack compressed video.

Default List of where to buy 3d glasses
http://www.3dstereo.com
http://www.3dglassesdirect.com/
https://edimensional.com/
www.3dglassesonline.com
www.target.com



Please get back to me with any questions and orders for 3D videos


Sorry but I DON'T think I am about loosing all of my customers to 3D..???:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Peace 01-23-2009 11:14 PM

Also in 1999 there was no Philips TV displays no Glasses 3D...Right? Time has come now.
I can also help you buy 3d cams and you can shoot yourself. is it not cool?

Peace 01-23-2009 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaliyahLove (Post 15380704)
Sorry but I DON'T think I am about loosing all of my customers to 3D..???:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Not today. Watch the video and see for yourself. Guys speculate too much instead of downloading Free Sample and Create an opinion. So far i got 5 webmasters requested demo...


I am waiting for the first one to watch and write opinion

Peace 01-23-2009 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 15379456)
Peace, I want some, looks like fun.. send me glasses!

Hi Gleen get in touch..Can not send glasses but you can order from the list i posted

TyroneGoldberg 01-23-2009 11:42 PM

http://i40.tinypic.com/fvv5hx.jpg

Paul Markham 01-23-2009 11:47 PM

The problem with these "Techie" solutions is they are getting away from the reason most people buy porn to jerk off to porn. It's not because it's HD, 3D or any other technical hardware, it's because they want to imagine more of what the models are doing and what they could do if they were there. Sadly there are no short cuts to selling porn, it's not going to be solved by buying a new camera if the models are faking it.

The consumer who was buying on impulse because he wanted one scene to jerk off to is no longer buying, he's got Tubes. The crappiest level of image quality porn is probably winning over customers. Those surfers are not bothered if it's HD or 3D, to them it's better than what we offer.

We need to rethink what we're doing fast to win back customers. I will shoot a few scenes next week, before I start treatment, and the models who want to fake their way through the scenes will be sent home without money. Because my members hate faked porn.

Members of all sites will choose real orgasms on poor images over faked orgasms on the highest quality image. They want scenes that are different from scenes on other sites in the niche and style, they want models doing it for real, they want models who do a porn scene and need to rest for 30 minutes afterwards. You know what I mean by this.

Then you can worry about the image quality.

Because bad porn in the crispest, cleanest, greatest image quality is worse that poor porn on a poor image. You can imagine it's better if you can't see it so clearly. The job of a pornographer is to get a crystal clear image in the viewers imagination and not his eye.

Paul Markham 01-24-2009 01:03 AM

WHAT PORN CONSUMERS WANT.

This is general and there are exceptions.

They want to imagine what they are seeing is real, they want to connect with the models, the action and above all the fantasy of the scene. The saying "It could happen to me." is the most important thing in porn.

This is true of lots of entertainment. When we play a computer game we want it as real as possible, when we watch a movie we often want to believe we could be the hero. A lot of entertainment is separation from reality, while being real in our imagination.

It's like we know we are not a super commando saving the world, but we are when we watch a Rambo movie. Well we imagine we could be. :winkwink:

Think about it as an example and be broad in your thinking.

The same goes for porn. The consumer wants to believe he can find girls, or guys if he's gay, he can fuck easily with his 12 inch dick and do it so well she screams the house down before fainting in exhaustion. You have to adapt that to your particular niche or fetish.

He does not imagine she's only doing it for the money, for a pornographer and is going to fake her way through the whole scene. And is about as turned on as the girls he meets every day.

The better image quality you show in porn the clearer the consumer will believe or not believe in what he's watching. Will a porn buyer go and buy 3D glasses to view 3D porn? Some will, but that porn has to be 3 times better than 1D porn to make him do it. And while you spend all your time and money getting the technical part right you're in danger of losing the main ingredient of porn. The porn.

Krusty 01-24-2009 01:14 AM

i is liking the engrish abilit-aar

"You are about loosing all you customers to"

Paul Markham 01-24-2009 01:36 AM

And lastly if you can shoot porn so good it will make a consumer go out and buy a pair of glasses to view it. You don't need a 3D camera. A VHS one will do the trick. ;)

Get my meaning?

digitaldivas 01-24-2009 01:54 AM

...Interesting, this whole thread is veeery interesting... well, if my HD foot and pantyhose niche traffic goes to you, lol. I will definitely make you an affiliate of the digitaldivasonline.com network, fuck i'll even give you first page :thumbsup

xxxfeetxxx 01-24-2009 02:12 AM

Maybe the next 'ultimate' thing in porn is going to be 3D movies together with the new 'real touch' device. Yes, a lot of preparation but maybe some users will be happy to go to the effort of getting it all set up to get the nearest you can to 'real' virtual porn.
I don't think ALL porn users watch it on impulse, I'm sure some plan it in advance.

notime 01-24-2009 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15377442)

x-ray vision glasses, that is the future :thumbsup :winkwink:
any guy would buy those :2 cents:

Nautilus 01-24-2009 03:24 AM

3d theaters have been there since forever, but never really gotten beyond being a small niche product. Don't know why but masses are really not all that thrilled about 3d movies as enthusiasts of that tech think them would be.

Maybe that's because people WANT movie's image to be different from real life?

Nautilus 01-24-2009 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15380968)
And lastly if you can shoot porn so good it will make a consumer go out and buy a pair of glasses to view it. You don't need a 3D camera. A VHS one will do the trick. ;)

That pretty much sums it up.

Paul Markham 01-24-2009 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 15381120)
That pretty much sums it up.

Sadly that's what techies just don't get. They're convinced in the latest gizmo, feature or what ever. They lose sight of what the real target is.

Peace 01-24-2009 10:51 AM

Guys! 3D was never good quality before. Check the video we offer and then we can speak. No discussion is real untill you FUCKING WATCH the CLIP i am offering to see.

How can you discuss something you did not SEEEEEEE...????????
Are we busines people operating based on facts or pure bla bla bla speculation.

WATCH THE VIDEO...All you have to do contact me via ICQ or register on ClassyContent and request the video trailer to watch via Placing 3d in the Last Family field

Peace 01-24-2009 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 15381112)
3d theaters have been there since forever, but never really gotten beyond being a small niche product. Don't know why but masses are really not all that thrilled about 3d movies as enthusiasts of that tech think them would be.

Maybe that's because people WANT movie's image to be different from real life?


Interesting point. But it looks like you own opinion though. Quality were not there. IMAX quality could only been done by IMAX


Now we can shoot stereo. Check the clip to discuss further

tony286 01-24-2009 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 15377153)
Here's 2 quick ones...

1. What do customers tell their wives, girlfriends, bosses, etc why they have 3d glasses by the computer?

2. Porn is mostly impulse buy, so what do customers do when they don't have the glasses handy but feel like rubbing out a quick one before the wife and kids get home?

well said :thumbsup

Peace 01-24-2009 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxfeetxxx (Post 15381030)
Maybe the next 'ultimate' thing in porn is going to be 3D movies together with the new 'real touch' device. Yes, a lot of preparation but maybe some users will be happy to go to the effort of getting it all set up to get the nearest you can to 'real' virtual porn.
I don't think ALL porn users watch it on impulse, I'm sure some plan it in advance.

Yes One time buy Glassed or Even AS A MEMBER get it Free. Wait 3-4 days to receive glasses Few Pair 10 pair i will send to the surfer who signs up, So he could spead it to 10 more friends.


Where are the numbers game. this discussion make me said that you guys do not think based on facts and make me happy that you do not get 3D and we will be the first to get the bucks out of it...LOL

Peace 01-24-2009 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15380761)
The problem with these "Techie" solutions is they are getting away from the reason most people buy porn to jerk off to porn. It's not because it's HD, 3D or any other technical hardware, it's because they want to imagine more of what the models are doing and what they could do if they were there. Sadly there are no short cuts to selling porn, it's not going to be solved by buying a new camera if the models are faking it.

The consumer who was buying on impulse because he wanted one scene to jerk off to is no longer buying, he's got Tubes. The crappiest level of image quality porn is probably winning over customers. Those surfers are not bothered if it's HD or 3D, to them it's better than what we offer.

We need to rethink what we're doing fast to win back customers. I will shoot a few scenes next week, before I start treatment, and the models who want to fake their way through the scenes will be sent home without money. Because my members hate faked porn.

Members of all sites will choose real orgasms on poor images over faked orgasms on the highest quality image. They want scenes that are different from scenes on other sites in the niche and style, they want models doing it for real, they want models who do a porn scene and need to rest for 30 minutes afterwards. You know what I mean by this.

Then you can worry about the image quality.

Because bad porn in the crispest, cleanest, greatest image quality is worse that poor porn on a poor image. You can imagine it's better if you can't see it so clearly. The job of a pornographer is to get a crystal clear image in the viewers imagination and not his eye.


Well Said. but 3d is not better quality it is making you imaging you are there inside. So that all fits together with what you wrote...Paul I will send you FTP to watch the trailer becuase i know you. Others need to request it. I can not just post FTP for all...

notime 01-24-2009 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace (Post 15382052)
Guys! 3D was never good quality before. Check the video we offer and then we can speak. No discussion is real untill you FUCKING WATCH the CLIP i am offering to see.

How can you discuss something you did not SEEEEEEE...????????
Are we busines people operating based on facts or pure bla bla bla speculation.

WATCH THE VIDEO...All you have to do contact me via ICQ or register on ClassyContent and request the video trailer to watch via Placing 3d in the Last Family field

Don't put too much money or hopes in 3D :2 cents:
I lost a shitload of it years ago with 3D VHS & glasses
and in Disney world 3D movies gimme a headache each time (I feel cross eyed every time)

Even though your quality is better then anything around, people would not go to a store and get glasses. Porn is an impulse buy market. Fast, in/out, forget, next, kind of way.
Same as advertising porn sites in newspapers & magazines; just won't work.

But if you can make it a success, which I hope you will, you'll have my utmost respects.

(no need to download the movie, since there are no stores in Holland selling the glasses)

Peace 01-24-2009 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15380883)
WHAT PORN CONSUMERS WANT.

This is general and there are exceptions.

They want to imagine what they are seeing is real, they want to connect with the models, the action and above all the fantasy of the scene. The saying "It could happen to me." is the most important thing in porn.

This is true of lots of entertainment. When we play a computer game we want it as real as possible, when we watch a movie we often want to believe we could be the hero. A lot of entertainment is separation from reality, while being real in our imagination.

It's like we know we are not a super commando saving the world, but we are when we watch a Rambo movie. Well we imagine we could be. :winkwink:

Think about it as an example and be broad in your thinking.

The same goes for porn. The consumer wants to believe he can find girls, or guys if he's gay, he can fuck easily with his 12 inch dick and do it so well she screams the house down before fainting in exhaustion. You have to adapt that to your particular niche or fetish.

He does not imagine she's only doing it for the money, for a pornographer and is going to fake her way through the whole scene. And is about as turned on as the girls he meets every day.

The better image quality you show in porn the clearer the consumer will believe or not believe in what he's watching. Will a porn buyer go and buy 3D glasses to view 3D porn? Some will, but that porn has to be 3 times better than 1D porn to make him do it. And while you spend all your time and money getting the technical part right you're in danger of losing the main ingredient of porn. The porn.



Yes all true. Why you guys web site OWNERS buy 1 3D video and post it to you sites and BONUS video and see what you MEMBERS say.


WHO GAVE YOU THE RIGHT to deside for the consumer?


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