Thanks for sharing this thread Bruno. Let me share my views:

I have worked with almost all type of designers and coders and in the end, there are only two models I can say that work for me: (1) hiring one man and having him working just for me (2) hiring a professional & competent company. Both of them are like the same in the end.

With (1) you pay less money for the result, but you spend a lot of time and energy hiring, teaching, giving instructions that sometimes they don't get it, dealing with their life problems and you can end 1 month with nothing done. Luckily you will make him learn/understand and future work will be done like you want to and fast or maybe you'll need to fire him and start all over again.

With (2) you save all that shitty part of (1) because you TRANSFER all the shit to the decent company you are hiring, and don't think they will do that shitty work for free. They must and will charge you for that. People that say they charge a lot simply has no idea about this issues.

My most common problems with "1-artist companies" are:

- the artist thinks he is the best of the world while you know he is not
- he is very unprofessional (as most artists are anyway)
- even though you know it takes him 1 day to do your task he will delay several weeks, you'll try contacting him and he will ignore even though he said it would be done in that same day/week
- you ask for changes and he feel insulted as he think the result is perfect (as most artists do anyway)

The list goes on and on. There may be a couple of guys that aren't like this, but I had no luck finding them and I am pretty sure they won't be as cheap as the regular "1-artist companies" are.

That's 100% spot on.

I recentely went with them and shelled out about 6x the money an avarage designer charges. Althogh I finally got them to make the design I wanted, the whole experince was a nightmare.

DickmansDesign. Never again.

:2 cents:

I tried to take what Bruno has written in his courteous and professional responses then highlight what I feel are the MAIN reasons why DickmansDesign is worth what you pay.

Having know Bruno for over three years now I have observed first hand what he and his company have done to raise the bar when it comes to adult design in terms of the quality of his company's work and the level of professionalism he personally brings to the table.

Keep on pushing the boundaries and leading the way Bruno :thumbsup
_

We are proud supporters of Bruno and his team. They have done exceptional work for CECash.com and our multiple affiliate platforms. There team has been cooperative and I have personally known Bruno since the inception of his organization - good peeps :)

can we see the design that dickman made for you?

OMG - The design is absolutely amazing. It is SO striking. I can't wait to be able to show it off publicly.... and Johnny has been great.

YMMV, but here's my experience with Dickmans -
My ratios with Dickman tours are so much better then the tours I've had done for 1/4 to 1/2 the price that I have no choice but to pay the price. Of course I love having a tour that I really like (which Dickman always delivers for me), but in the end the numbers are all that matters, and they don't lie. They consistently beat my own designs and other designer's tours. We are a small company with only 2 people doing all the work (including shooting ALL the content for 3 current sites and 4 sites that are in the works) and limited working capital. If I could get the same results by paying less I would. :2 cents:

Is that someone I should recognize from a design perspective or are you saying the thread was started by a Dickman's sock puppet? Not that it would change Dickman's quality either way, just curious.

I take it youre devine???

and if so... no... you asked if he/she read the thread... i assume you meant this by what he said as in ifit were he had not read the thread and replied incoherently or something ...

but he was asking for an update on the findings mutt may or may not have had from the "dumpster"...

so i said what i said to reflect the fact that he in fact made sense and was also the thread starter...

i am slightly inebriated at the moment so i may be wrong... but thats how i see it at the moment... ?QW?Q?Q?!!

Very professional and pleasant reply Bruno - exactly how it is working with you and your people. I miss hanging out with you!

paying the extra bucks on designs rarely pays off imo