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JFK 02-04-2009 05:55 PM

Fitty great things for RRRED :Graucho

RRRED 02-04-2009 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 15439899)
Care to elaborate? I am VERY interested in how this happened. I owe the IRS 70-80k that I have to take care of in the coming weeks and had thought about calling one of those places that say they can get it down to a fraction of the overall owed.

Congratulations, I can imagine that is a HUGE burden lifted off of your shoulders. I only wish that I could have the same results.

It was so easy. Just pick up the phone and call them. Or send them a msg online and they will call you and set up an appointment very quickly. They charge a flat fee and have a good reputation. You never know. That's what they do so let them do it. They will hook you up with a free consultation appointment and someone will sit and tell you straight up what your options are and what it will cost. My fees are a bit high just because I'm having them clean up everything and do checks that I might not even need. I just wanted to be sure I covered absolutely everything.

Spunky 02-04-2009 05:59 PM

Wow that is great news,good for you

Jim_Gunn 02-04-2009 06:20 PM

Great news! I have been seeing the JK Harris commercials here on tv in South Florida and I was thinking about consulting with them as well. Nice to hear you had a good result.

RRRED 02-04-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 15440058)
Great news! I have been seeing the JK Harris commercials here on tv in South Florida and I was thinking about consulting with them as well. Nice to hear you had a good result.

Let me know if you do. The guy told me he'd give me 150 for each referral. Nice eh?

OldSchoolJim 02-04-2009 06:31 PM

The IRS is required by law to provide something called an "offer in compromise" if you are unable to pay the taxes you owe....but you MUST pay the amount decided upon in one lump or its back on payments for life....if you can prove some form of hardship (current economy fits the bill) then you may just be in the right place at the right time....

st0ned 02-04-2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RRRED (Post 15439959)
It was so easy. Just pick up the phone and call them. Or send them a msg online and they will call you and set up an appointment very quickly. They charge a flat fee and have a good reputation. You never know. That's what they do so let them do it. They will hook you up with a free consultation appointment and someone will sit and tell you straight up what your options are and what it will cost. My fees are a bit high just because I'm having them clean up everything and do checks that I might not even need. I just wanted to be sure I covered absolutely everything.

Thank you very much!

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Originally Posted by RRRED (Post 15440098)
Let me know if you do. The guy told me he'd give me 150 for each referral. Nice eh?

I called and set an appointment with them 2 hours ago, if you want to send your info to the email in my sig I will give it to them tomorrow so you get the credit. :thumbsup

RRRED 02-04-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 15440188)
Thank you very much!



I called and set an appointment with them 2 hours ago, if you want to send your info to the email in my sig I will give it to them tomorrow so you get the credit. :thumbsup

Sweet! Thank you. I sent you an email from my personal account.

st0ned 02-04-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RRRED (Post 15440253)
Sweet! Thank you. I sent you an email from my personal account.

You are very welcome! You motivated me to finally make the phone call haha. I will make sure you get credit for me going in tomorrow. :thumbsup

selena 02-04-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 15439782)
So why am I being a sucker and paying my taxes? I'll just let it roll and get a once in a lifetime bailout and just resume paying once i get forgiven.
WG


:2 cents:

gornyhuy 02-04-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Heron (Post 15439612)
I say fuck you, I pay my taxes why can't you.
Where do you think roads, schools, public works come from fucking magic??

It's no surprise you got a deal though, with all the economic turmoil the IRS is pretty pussy right now which pisses me off even more.


Amen... I get dry humped every year in taxes and take it up the ass like a good little boy. Damn. :mad:

RRRED 02-04-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 15440549)
Did you know Americans have to pay Canadian taxes if they do business or earn money in Canada? I know it's a little "off subject" but I was was sending traffic to a Doctor in Vancouver and he was paying me in the US. I went up to go fishing and customs pulled me aside with a tax form and demanded payment before entry. In short, I won't be going back to Canada anytime soon. :2 cents:

Doh! That's good to know. Someone on icq today was told that anything from Canada was just fine. Wow.

RRRED 02-04-2009 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 15440676)
The reason I mention this is when the dollars was low many Canadians here were going overboard about Americans being fat, lazy and stupid. They fail to realize they do NOT have to pay into our system and then make comments about our lack of health care. But if we Americans make a dime in Canada they want to tax us besides our own tax. The irony.


Damn cheeseheads

*duck

V_RocKs 02-04-2009 10:26 PM

What happened to you will not help Airek... You could not possibly pay your taxes... If someone in the industry makes any money at all they will take it...

ExLust 02-05-2009 04:16 AM

Congrats, well done.

d-null 02-05-2009 04:25 AM

as far as Canada/u.s. goes, there is a treaty that you can't be taxed twice on the same income, but you do have to pay tax on all your income whether it is made in Canada or the U.S., sometimes you have to file in both places, but at the very least you have to include all of your income, so if you are American you have to claim your Canadian income too to the irs, and vice versa for canadians




and for those that are thinking they can just not pay taxes and the IRS will give them a break, it seems to me that you have to be in a serious financial situation before they would consider it... if you own two cars and a house and a boat, I don't think they are going to let you off, but if you are completely broke and living on the floor of an apartment it makes sense :2 cents:

good to hear that you got a break, RRRED:thumbsup

cherrylula 02-05-2009 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RRRED (Post 15438847)
It's these guys http://jkharris.com/

Hi Todd! I moved out of town but not too far. Luckily I had an old friend that desperately needed a renter and I desperately needed a place so I got lucky there. All I had was the clothes on my back, a blanket, and a box of frigging ashes for the first two months.

I just got an email spam, the subject said:

"Get the IRS off your back"

and the body of the message:

http://jkharris.com/

:1orglaugh

these guys crawling for emails to spam or what???

seems they are legit though as mentioned in this thread. :1orglaugh

and congrats girl. :)

RRRED 02-05-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 15441861)
I just got an email spam, the subject said:

"Get the IRS off your back"

and the body of the message:

http://jkharris.com/

:1orglaugh

these guys crawling for emails to spam or what???

seems they are legit though as mentioned in this thread. :1orglaugh

and congrats girl. :)

Thanks! and yeah I just tried to comb the site for an affiliate program and couldn't find a thing. But on a side not, their blog has some interesting info in there. Their response to people writing to them about helping people "cheat the system" and also some good tips and info like being able to write off a move to a new location, etc.

John-ACWM 02-05-2009 12:52 PM

Truly once in a lifetime deal. Happy for you,now get back to work :winkwink:

jakethedog 02-05-2009 01:03 PM

I pay my taxes on 19K every year like clock work ... well actually I think I get a bit back .. ;)

bausch 04-01-2009 04:04 PM

I'm surprised they didn't just levy your bank accounts etc... How did you get away with them not levying you or seizing any assets for so long?

When you owe over 25k the IRS will want you to fill in a collection statement and will want to know things like how much you spend on food per month, gas, bills, everything...

Snake Doctor 04-01-2009 06:07 PM

I'm amazed at all the haters in here. Just crazy.

Something in our culture makes it impossible for people to be happy for someone else. Instead they hate people who get something they didn't get.

All the people saying "I have to pay why don't you"....if you were in the same situation, you'd get the same offer.
You don't get the offer unless you're broke...and you can't fake being broke with the IRS.

Hmmm lets see, would I rather be almost destitute and get my 100K tax bill forgiven, or would I rather have 150K and have to give 100K to the IRS?

It's like all the people who hate on the UAW. Most of the time, they're just pissed off that those guys make more money than they do, and get better benefits and retire earlier....so since those people are getting something you don't have, instead of thinking "good for them, maybe one day I'll get that too", you think "fuck those guys, take their shit away from them"

Just crazy

Snake Doctor 04-01-2009 06:08 PM

Hey RRRed, congrats, if anyone needed a break it was you. I'm glad you'll be sleeping better.

And quit the damn chain smoking will ya? :winkwink:

bdld 04-01-2009 07:52 PM

apparently they give you a break if you're broke as fuck.

RRRED 04-01-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 15698874)
I'm surprised they didn't just levy your bank accounts etc... How did you get away with them not levying you or seizing any assets for so long?

When you owe over 25k the IRS will want you to fill in a collection statement and will want to know things like how much you spend on food per month, gas, bills, everything...

I always had a payment plan and always were upfront with them.

JKHarris, btw, has made the last 30 days of my life a living fucking hell. I wish I had just gone to the IRS myself actually. Long story but they ripped every cent out of my account at the beginning of the month and I have struggled like mad all month long. I had to give them a $100 hold payment until the main office gave me an address to send them money that I was going to recieve from another source other than my personal account. They never sent me the address and by the time they did a whole month later, they took all I had.

Called them about 25 times and no return call until today when they tried to rip my account AGAIN. Luckily my band has blocked them and now they're going to have to fuck off or accept whatever payments I can pay them monthly. I dunno how I can get out of this contract. If I could, I would. I probably stil owe them like 5K.

Can't squeeze blood out of a turnip... I didn't answer their calls today cuz I was too pissed. I'll deal with them tomorrow when I'm more cooled off. It'll work itself out. It always does. My intentions are in the right place and they're the ones who dropped the ball.

cgu 04-01-2009 08:50 PM

I was audited last year for 05 and it took literally 9 months because the IRS is so slow and I was a "low priority" supposedly. Luckily I hand my records to my accountant every year and let him do everything because he handled the whole audit. I was required to dig up bank statements for EVERY account, have accounting of all cash on hand, provide copies of all leases, etc, etc. I knew I was fine because a decade ago I decided I like to sleep at night and its not worth the price to have the IRS looming over your head. That background silent stress is a killer. Be aggressive and write off everything you can substantiate. Always imagine yourself in a room with your accountant and an IRS auditor and explaining your deduction and if passes the "I can say this out loud in front of a room full of people" go ahead and deduct. Stories like hardship are usually inaccurate. If you're making $ the IRS will NOT discount. They do have one time freebies for fees & interest that can really add up for some people. My guess is that his losses were more substantial than what they thought he owed and they were generous on their valuations. THERE ARE NO FREE RIDES.

Bottom line is that "If you are paying taxes that means you're making $ and billions of people would happily switch places with you." Everyone in the Adult industry needs to be extra vigilant in paying taxes, no one is granting us any favors.

Phil21 04-01-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15699609)
I'm amazed at all the haters in here. Just crazy.

Something in our culture makes it impossible for people to be happy for someone else. Instead they hate people who get something they didn't get.

All the people saying "I have to pay why don't you"....if you were in the same situation, you'd get the same offer.
You don't get the offer unless you're broke...and you can't fake being broke with the IRS.

Hmmm lets see, would I rather be almost destitute and get my 100K tax bill forgiven, or would I rather have 150K and have to give 100K to the IRS?

It's like all the people who hate on the UAW. Most of the time, they're just pissed off that those guys make more money than they do, and get better benefits and retire earlier....so since those people are getting something you don't have, instead of thinking "good for them, maybe one day I'll get that too", you think "fuck those guys, take their shit away from them"

Just crazy


I agree that folks should be happy for anyone not paying the IRS - giving the government more money is never a good thing.

But.. I was in a very similar situation, and had to pay it all. It wasn't $50k, but it was better than half that amount. I was completely broke at the time - $500 would have been insane to pay. I paid it all back. Clawed my way back to where I could pay down a little every so often, and then finally saved up enough for the full amount and paid it off. It took a long, long, time.

Part of me says "why the hell did I have to live like I did for over 6 years to pay that back?" when I could have settled. But, the other part of me says "why the hell didn't I attempt to settle" :) I can get where people who are paying it down the hard way come from is all I'm saying. Obviously the money was made at one point, in order to owe it to begin with.

As for the UAW, I don't think many "hate" on them due to how much they make. It's more the perceived idea that union workers are lazy, and unions keep the lazy employed for far more than what market wages are. While this may or may not be true, unfortunately my personal experience leads me to at least initially think this way about most union workers. Rarely have I seen a union shop where people truly pull their own weight, and want to do the best job they possibly can. Taking pride in ones work seems to be a thing of the past, and it's no longer "cool" to be good at your job. Better to be a slacker and work the system. There *are* some though, and those employees I applaud every damned dime they can get.

As for unions in general - they need to stop the "us vs. them" bullshit lowest common denominator stuff, and start encouraging productivity and punishing laziness within their ranks. I believe at one point, being in a union was a mark of honor of saying "I do a damned fine job of what I do, I work fucking hard, and I am willing to fight for what I rightly deserve". Your fellow union members would run you out of town if you were a lazy asshole. Now, unfortunately, most unions have generated into a "lets see what the littlest amount of work we can get away with for the most amount of wage possible". You create a guild/union of workers that you police well, and take pride in your work - and I bet you will have many businesses lining up to hire your members once you gain a reputation of "yes, they cost 50% more than other workers, but do 75% more work!". I know I would.


So.. off topic :)

Congrats to you RRRed, that has to feel absolutely wonderful. I know it did for me when I sent the IRS that final check - it was truly amazing. the weight lifting off your shoulders.

Snake Doctor 04-01-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil21 (Post 15700088)
I agree that folks should be happy for anyone not paying the IRS - giving the government more money is never a good thing.

But.. I was in a very similar situation, and had to pay it all. It wasn't $50k, but it was better than half that amount. I was completely broke at the time - $500 would have been insane to pay. I paid it all back. Clawed my way back to where I could pay down a little every so often, and then finally saved up enough for the full amount and paid it off. It took a long, long, time.

Part of me says "why the hell did I have to live like I did for over 6 years to pay that back?" when I could have settled. But, the other part of me says "why the hell didn't I attempt to settle" :) I can get where people who are paying it down the hard way come from is all I'm saying. Obviously the money was made at one point, in order to owe it to begin with.

As for the UAW, I don't think many "hate" on them due to how much they make. It's more the perceived idea that union workers are lazy, and unions keep the lazy employed for far more than what market wages are. While this may or may not be true, unfortunately my personal experience leads me to at least initially think this way about most union workers. Rarely have I seen a union shop where people truly pull their own weight, and want to do the best job they possibly can. Taking pride in ones work seems to be a thing of the past, and it's no longer "cool" to be good at your job. Better to be a slacker and work the system. There *are* some though, and those employees I applaud every damned dime they can get.

As for unions in general - they need to stop the "us vs. them" bullshit lowest common denominator stuff, and start encouraging productivity and punishing laziness within their ranks. I believe at one point, being in a union was a mark of honor of saying "I do a damned fine job of what I do, I work fucking hard, and I am willing to fight for what I rightly deserve". Your fellow union members would run you out of town if you were a lazy asshole. Now, unfortunately, most unions have generated into a "lets see what the littlest amount of work we can get away with for the most amount of wage possible". You create a guild/union of workers that you police well, and take pride in your work - and I bet you will have many businesses lining up to hire your members once you gain a reputation of "yes, they cost 50% more than other workers, but do 75% more work!". I know I would.


So.. off topic :)

Congrats to you RRRed, that has to feel absolutely wonderful. I know it did for me when I sent the IRS that final check - it was truly amazing. the weight lifting off your shoulders.

The union thing isn't an easy question to answer. Being a business owner and a liberal, it's hard for me to reconcile those two viewpoints at times.

One example I like to use is when people talk about how much the non union auto workers in the South get to work at Honda and Toyota plants.
What most people don't realize, is that the only reason those wages are so high, is because Toyota and Honda fear the UAW, and they know if they paid wages that were too low, their workers would unionize.
So the non UAW workers still benefit from the presence of the UAW.

Companies like Wal-Mart aren't afraid of unions, because retail workers unions aren't very strong, and so half of their employees receive government assistance of some sort because their wages are so low.

My overall point in support of unions, is that our government intentionally keeps a certain percentage of the population unemployed in order to keep inflation under control. This is a good thing overall, most people don't want overall prices and wages subject to the shocks, peaks and valleys that happen to things like the stock market or the price of oil.
But since we never reach 100% employment, then the laws of supply and demand don't really apply to the labor market the way they do to other markets, and so we need other mechanisms in place to determine wages, benefits, etc for workers.
Collective bargaining is one of those mechanisms.

The best solution is to not throw the baby out with the bathwater per se, and allow workers to collectively bargain for wages and benefits, but get rid of alot of the stupid work rules and procedures that drive up a wall between the labor force and management.

I rambled again a bit there...but my main point is that I wish more people's point of view was "I'm happy so and so didn't have to go through what I went through" instead of "If I had to pay all that money to the IRS then that bitch should to!"...or "That's great that those guys get $30/hour plus benefits to work on that assembly line" instead of "Screw those bastards who retired at 48, they don't deserve those pensions, my dad is 65 and still working!!"

bausch 04-01-2009 10:01 PM

RRRed, did the IRS make you fill out a collection information statement where they ask you how much you spend a month on gas, food, bills, rent etc?

I got my debt under 25k so I'm ok now but when I do my taxes for 08 it's going to up in the danger zone again and I'm going to have to do an installment plan for 2 years (07 and 08). I'm afraid my debt will be over 25k again and then they will want to know exactly how you allocate your funds every month.

bausch 04-01-2009 10:08 PM

Also, what would you prioritize if you have some money, paying the back taxes off or paying current quarterly taxes for 09? its very important that i keep on track for 09 cause if i dont i will NEVER catch up, but the back taxes is pressing too.

I will discuss all of this with my accountant too once im finished with my bookkeeping for the year but still interested in knowing what you think.

It's a balancing act to manage both at the same time.

xmas13 04-02-2009 04:05 AM

http://blogs.trb.com/community/news/...m/IRS_logo.jpg

LadyMischief 04-02-2009 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 15439782)
So why am I being a sucker and paying my taxes? I'll just let it roll and get a once in a lifetime bailout and just resume paying once i get forgiven.
WG

As nice as that would be you and I know in Canada we'd never get away with it... For anyone who thinks the iRS is evil should tangle with Canada Revenue (I know you have). they are FUCkers!!



Glad to hear things are going well for you Nicole. Once you hit bottom the only way to go from there is up!

bausch 04-02-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bausch (Post 15698874)
I'm surprised they didn't just levy your bank accounts etc... How did you get away with them not levying you or seizing any assets for so long?

When you owe over 25k the IRS will want you to fill in a collection statement and will want to know things like how much you spend on food per month, gas, bills, everything...

just curious if u had to fill these things out.. cause um... i kinda owe them some money right now too :(

Tjeezers 04-02-2009 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 15438969)
you sure will smith wasnt the lawyer? :p

lol
Seven Pounds was a very good one

CybermedAndy 04-02-2009 07:31 PM

I wonder how the IRS measures up the Revenue Canada... they are utter insufferable cocksmokers up here

I've paid close to $100k in taxes the past 6 months (from previous year) and they still making threats to come after me if I'm late on future payments (I was complacent last year and was late paying whats owed)

Nothing more excrutiating than dealing with a civil servant with a chip on their shoulder and power trip issues

bausch 04-02-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CybermedAndy (Post 15703407)
I wonder how the IRS measures up the Revenue Canada... they are utter insufferable cocksmokers up here

I've paid close to $100k in taxes the past 6 months (from previous year) and they still making threats to come after me if I'm late on future payments (I was complacent last year and was late paying whats owed)

Nothing more excrutiating than dealing with a civil servant with a chip on their shoulder and power trip issues

I don't know how they compare but the irs don't mess around.

If you don't pay they will levy your accounts and seize your assets or even worse put you in jail like they did to pornstar Janine. She's on a whole other level tho, she owed like 300k and was still buying new houses and expensive cars etc

I havent heard of the irs making threats to come after citizens if they get behind on future payments but i do know that if u are on an installment plan u have to pay everything on time including the taxes for the year too.

Drake 04-02-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RRRED (Post 15699959)
JKHarris, btw, has made the last 30 days of my life a living fucking hell. I wish I had just gone to the IRS myself actually. Long story but they ripped every cent out of my account at the beginning of the month and I have struggled like mad all month long.


Lawyers...

lazycash 04-02-2009 11:36 PM

I'm curious how much more effective a third party company such as JK Harris is in making an offer in compromise vs doing it yourself directly with the IRS?

Phoenix 04-03-2009 07:08 AM

congrats rrrred....even though i just paid a shitload in taxes...and as well to my accountant while being audited...at least someone got some good news around tax time..lol


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