From one clips4sale fan to another, that was a very good post! My store is sitting in the number one spot right now...which is a first. Clips is a great way to make money while receiving the benefit of immediate feedback. It can addictive too. ;-)

Cheyenne

No referral link.

Just go sign up to all the clip stores, put in the work, and go buck wild man. :thumbsup

Thanks love.

When can I get a picture of your toes :winkwink:. Or better yet, buy a clip with another woman sucking on em. :jerkoff

Also, congrats on the placement. :thumbsup

yeah...i know a small sale is better than a no sale. pricing is a critical aspect of marketing your product & getting the sale. i just feel that having your product at 2.99 on the web takes away a chance at a bigger revenue bite. record industry deals with this shit when they try to sell albums instead of singles. the customers want the singles cause they can pay less & get what they want without paying filler. But in the end, the producer ends up with less money in his pocket.

But im speaking abstractly. you guys have the experience. you tell me what to do :)

People have the option of purchasing my videos individually or buying a membership for $40 a month. My membership web site has thousands of videos and hi res photos....years worth. You would be surprised how many people spend more than $40. purchasing single clips than joining the web site...every month. Beyond that, think of selling clips like selling samples. You actually get paid for people to watch enough of your content to decide if they like it enough to join your web site. :-) Clips4Sale rocks.

Cheyenne

Send me an email and I will get a password to Club Dom for you. :-)

This pretty much answer's it nice and neat.

Do you use DRM on your C4S vids?

Will do.

Make sure to point me to your toes. :winkwink:

depends how you look at it..

if you feed clipstores yourself, and your sales come mainly from self generated traffic,
then effectively clips4sale is just another % taking content delivery platform / processor

however.. regards my reference to "back in the day"

for those who don't ( or didn't then ) feed their clipstores, and rely on c4s traffic
then the majority of the in-house clips4sale traffic comes from the index page,
to show on the index page you need to be updating regular & / or advertising..
when there were LESS people signed up, stores stayed on the index longer..

50 Actual Business Threads on GFY. Who'da thunk it?

Some do.

I do not.

However, again unlike many on this board, I actually police, and track down, and DMCA people monthly. So I keep a handle on my content. I do not let the shit spread like wildfire for years, and then come cry in my beer on GFY.

i''ll do you a swap for a pass to Governess Tara

we've been big fans of you guys for ages :thumbsup

Agreed.

Back in the day of the POP, with less stores, you could capitalize off ONLY C4S traffic.

:thumbsup

The main secret is how to generate traffic to your C4S store - the secret which nobody is really willing to share! :winkwink:

I've never tried promoting a clip store...

Personally i would rather submit movie/picture galleries promoting a paysite that has a 3 day trial for $2.95 compared to a clip store that sells a movie file for $2.95. For the sales ratios will be fairly similar due to the exact pricing - but in actuality there should be a slight advantage to the paysite for having a shitload more content. Another reason i would rather promote a paysite over a clip store - with the paysite 50%+ of the trials will actually convert to a full membership. With my sites, the average customer ends up spending over $70 lifetime. If i sent my traffic to a clip store - I would need some amazing sales ratios and repeat customers just to come close to my paysite earnings. I don't see it happening!

So whats the secret? Is it to make a special paysite tour with access to the paysite and access to the clip store? So when you submit a picture/movie gallery you are actually promoting both the paysite and the clip store at the same time? Let the customers choose what they want to pay for and hopefully generate more income that way? Basically use your paysite to promote your clip store and use your clip store to promote your paysite?

It's not really a secret as I already mentioned one of the main ways in the O.P..

Fair enough.

:2 cents:

Damn Barefootsies, you are giving away the proverbial store with this post! Very generous of you!

PS- I am a Barefootsies clip store disciple and I have made a net of $88.97 in sales so far today at 5:18 pm EST from my clip stores. And my stores are currently mostly on autopilot without a tremendous amount of self-generated traffic.

Nah.

I still have some tips and tricks I have only shared with you and Tony404. Plenty of goodies. :winkwink::winkwink:

I have pay sites and a clip store for each pay site. It is just extra money. Quite often it makes the pay site look like extra money LOL, I have done a lot better with clips.com in recent times though. Seems like everyone jumped on c4s bandwagon and clips.com just started up and did it based on feedback from the people listing the clips and they really made changes based on what we said. At the end of the day it is more money so why not do them all. If you don't have the time hire someone.

I should really just keep my mouth shut however I am always really good at disappointing myself. You should really think about reversing that logic. New clips should hit the clip store before the paysite. The paysite is sort of the DVD store while the clip place is like the movie theater - so to speak. Many people (even current site members) will visit the clip store to pay to get the next updates before they are released on the paysite. People often have such habits, even if they know they can wait a couple weeks and get it at no additional cost beyond their paysite membership.

:winkwink:

Why not?

A very good thread.

Yeah, mixed reviews on clips.com. Some claim to do better with it, some say it's shit. Myself personally, I think it comes down to

1. Content or niche. More general, mainstream, claim to do better there.
2. How well you promote your store. Same as anything. You have to put in the work.

Especially on the secondary clip stores who do not buy traffic, and do the promotion and such to the extent that Neil does at C4S. Over the years, he has reinvested in C4S. Both in traffic, promotion, interface, and infrastructure.

The dude's always thinkin'..

I'm actually going to try a site with the PhantomFlix thing for CCBill.

Will use the other stores too, but figured why the hell not try and keep as much money for myself as I can.

Yeah, Jimmy Gunn has told me about PhantomFlixxx some time ago. I have been promoting the domain for VOD already (similar to concept mentioned previously in thread), right now I just have it going to a secondary, re-run, clip store (stats previewed 1st page).

Once VOD is up and rolling. I will switch the domain over to new site. Which will already have traffic and back links in place. I wanna say 4 months or more of working it 'til now.

Jim, Fungus, and others are doing well with Phantom. I just need to make some time to get around to it. I am all about more money for me as well.

great post barefootsies

I will keep it short.
Great read thank you.

I'll give you a straight honest answer as to why, for me, I do not deal in DRM.

1. Laziness.
2. I actually spend a few hours a month tracking down content, DMCA, etc.
3. Reading the general feedback from other programs, and member sites on DRM.

Not a single one of those is a legitimate or good excuse in any way, shape, or form. However, that is t he honest answer to your question.

Getting the POP does not have to rely on the front page. We find that being at the top of a category is much more effective for us. For this reason, we split our clips among several different stores, giving each a chance to hit the top of multiple categories in regular rotation, as well as multiple branding opportunities for our paysites.

I disagree about clips hitting the stores before paysites though. We prefer to pamper our members, and let them enjoy the clips before they're offered to non-members. It's a benefit of membership, and encourages retention while making the member feel valued.

Reading this thread, I'm wondering about those people talking about posting licensed content in clip stores. I'm not certain that's permitted in most content licenses is it?

Store # 153 (really old school ;-)

Depends on your outlook. I do, or I should say, almost always have done what ASM mentioned. Although I have tried a number of different things, and ways, over the years on the various clip stores I have. I could write long and hard on that very topic. Trends, and cost benefit. However, this thread is providing enough tips. :winkwink:

I can't speak to ALL other content licenses. I allow clip store use, and restrict tube site and resale, including DVD and some VOD. This may vary from each provider. But anyone buying content should be able to read over the license before purchase anyway.

Oh yeah tootsie! Dat's real old skool. :thumbsup

Thanks BRO.
:thumbsup

George Michael loves the cock.

Thanks for the 'hot tip'.
:2 cents:

1: OK, see # 2.

2: Seems that protecting your content would be easier and a better way to spend more lazy time instead of tracking shit down. ;)

3: Who cares about member sites or programs? We are talking about a clips store, not a monthly membership.


Anyway, was curious if you had a specific business related reason. Thanks for the answer....In fact, thanks for the thread itself. :)

More than welcome. :)

As for the reasons. Yep. Not a single good one to be had. Laziness, apathy, supposed feedback. Not one of them a GOOD reason.

:upsidedow

Thanks for the thread, mister :)

From a previous thread by you I was inspired to pursue my microniche so I really appreciate the encouragement and disinterested help you give :)

Very silly question but I couldn't find examples or a direct answer anywhere or maybe i wasn't looking at the right place. Is one allowed to sell the clips in a zip? like packaged with the stills/photos or only video formats are allowed? :upsidedow Thanks again! :thumbsup

Glad to have helped you (and some others).

Clips do not need to be zipped.
I think pictures DO have to be zipped.

Hope that helps, and I am waiting on your toe and sole pic. :jerkoff

:1orglaugh I do not forget, and I insist they're unhawt - if I wasn't it'd be so much easier to make money down here, lol, true one woman operation instead of having to find models, lol.

I lent my camera to a friend for the weekend, will have it back tomorrow :)

And thanks for the answer as well :)

Cool thread Barefootsies :) Most people with clip stores produce content themselves or is there any game in buying content and opening clip stores?