100 IM's sent to you with e-mail address for you to send toe pix.

All good tootsies. :thumbsup

This thread has provided some interesting feedback. Especially on those who see the C4S model as more a take-a-way then added revenue or value.

I can see the logic, and once thought that way. But my own tracking, and trial and error over the years has shown it to be much more profitable utilizing the clip model.

Hit me up if you want Brazilian footfetisch!

A couple of things coming up in IM's I wanna make sure are clear.

1. I do not offer guarantees on other's content. Only my own.

I can still help you (i.e. consulting) if you want to pay for it. Or you can learn on your own by taking the very generous tips from this thread, read between the lines, and apply them.

2. Those screen shots on sales are from RE-RUN stores. Not my main, first release stores. So the content HAS been seen before (mine, semi exclusive). Just retooled for different marketing approaches and angles.

3. I speak mainly to clips4sale because most of my experience is there. Not because I think any more, or less, of the others. They are just more money for you to work all stores.

4. To make it profitable, like in my first example, you need to be able to buy clips in bulk. You also need the originals preferably. This way you can make content in your own WMV, DVIX, AVI whatever. Some only offer to watermark and send in one format. RAW may cost more. You can always offer broadband, dialup, whatever.

5. You must have 2257 and licensed content to do a clip store (Why I need to even mention this is funny, sad, disturbing). If you do not, and you are found out. You will forfeit all revenue. Many have tried with stolen content. It does get reported. So just a head's up for you.

Great post right there.

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5. You must have 2257 and licensed content to do a clip store (Why I need to even mention this is funny, sad, disturbing). If you do not, and you are found out. You will forfeit all revenue. Many have tried with stolen content. It does get reported. So just a head's up for you."

This can not be stressed enough. As stores are provider managed, we have so many new providers hopping on board that don't even know what the 2257 regulations are. We do not insist on storing 2257 records, but we do insist that all providers give us the name and address of their custodian of records. If you do not know what a custodian of records is, I suggest that you do some research before you get into the porn producer game. This is your life and your freedom on the line. Not something to take lightly.

Question: Are you running multiple stores with the same clips? If so, how is this working out for you?

The c4s software doesn't allow identical clips to be added more than once, so they need to be re-rendered. This is something that people using purchased content need to keep in mind.

1. It is working very well. As screen shots show.

In a content purchase, as in my example, would have broke even or made profit by now.

2. Anyone purchasing content may not render the same way, format, and definately clip file names will change. No different then running ipod, WMV, MPG, MOBI stores. Same content. Or one store for full length, and other for segments.

There are many ways to run a clip store(s) friend.

Great as always, thanks for sharing bro!

Here are some of the sales over the past few days to show you the relation of a few clips, compared to a $29.95 membership.


In no time, you are making that $29.95 off a handful of clips, repeatedly. I dunno about you. But I am in this for the MONEY.

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Thanks for jumping in Dan (clips.com). All the clip stores enforce this tightly, which is nice in this content theft day in age.

I know for me personally I have had people report when they have seen my content somewhere. As well, I have seen some sites on the clip stores where, even though my competition in niche, I knew were unauthorized. I contacted the owners, and within an hour the thief was out of business.

Oh, I completely agree man.

Open a new store, and you were on there for the better part of a week. Update regularly, and you would be there for an hour or more. It was great, and you could tell when you had a front page listing because sales would be poppin'.

That said, I enjoyed that, and it was great. But all good things come to an end, and those couple of hours were nice, but there were another 20 in the day. I was concentrating on trying to keep the traffic rolling all 24 hours. Which is why my own approach was different.

I do not fault those who could rely on the old system. I am just saying that I never looked to thatg as my sole traffic stream. I wanted more control, and more consistency.

Move along people.... nothing to see here. ;)

Shhh

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Don't give away the secrets TatrSalad. Pleasure doing business.

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Well, on the minus side, it took me about two seconds of browsing before I found some of my content on there. On the plus side, I hear they are good about removing unauthorized stuff and maybe I'll try out a store on there.

Any experience with the images4sale portion?

Yep. You just contact Neil and they close the store, and seize the funds. I am not sure if they also reverse back any monies paid, but that would be delicious.

I have never used the images4sale portion so I can't answer to that.

I finally listened to barefootsies INCESSANT rambling about clipstore this and clipstore that so I put up a clip store just to see what he was so fucking giggly about...

Here is mine http://www.clips4sale.com/store/24658

Well, I really want to kick myself in the nuts for not putting up the store sooner....All of the YEARS of missed money :(

I'm telling you this....If you have a lot of exclusive content in your members area, take some of that old content off the shelf, blow off the dust, and throw it up in your clip store....It takes NO EXTRA WORK on your part and you make money just by uploading it....

Now granted, I am sending my own traffic to it so I don't know how valuable being on the front page is but I believe that at least my first couple sales were a direct result of C4S's internal traffic...

If you're doing anything besides feet, you'll probably be ok because all you see on there is feet, feet, and more muthafucking feet......They even have weird fetished like "ruined ejaculations"....It's INCREDIBLE to see the depth of perversion in society..I haven't seen so much weird shit in one place for years....

Yes...

Feel free to kick yourself in the nuts repeatedly until you pass out.

Don't forget to buy me a BRO drink.

You're welcome.

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Nice, I emailed you a few days ago with my clips store... it's good extra bank :thumbsup

this sounds very interesting .. I'v got some scenes i've never sold, maybe i should give this a whirl ... I've heard ab out C4S before, mostly for feet and ballon fetishes ... Most of my stuff is HC, Some Bi stuff and I think a few POV vids lying around .. might be fun to get some extra cash for scenes that are otherwise just lying around ..

Is this easy to do even for the Non webmasters like me ?

Yes it is. Ask JimGunn.
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I didn't get that email but I happened to have looked your studio up on there anyway....

Technically you were the first one who told me about C4S except back then you were mainly pushing DVD's through them.

Here ya go....Cheers!!

http://www.bloggingbeirut.com/images...7/cheers1L.jpg

thanks !
 

Thanks for this thread, great resource- it's good to see who's making bank over there and what they're making it with.

C4S also has a pretty easy and sweet 50-50 cam interface with a MA plug that's worth checking out for solo girls - and especially for entertainers that perform in a particular fetish or nice.

Thanks for the info.

One question ... if I sell semi-exclusive content and keep a license for myself, how does putting the content on a clip store fit in? ... especially if my license does not allow clip stores..?

You shoot your own content, but license it to others?

I would guess since it is your license, and your rules, you can do what you want. I sell content, and I do not allow tube sites, DVD, VOD. But I can use it for those purposes on my own sites.

A lot of content providers are either very liberal with use, or very restricted. Some having time limits where you are essentially 'leasing' not licensing or buying.

i guess you haven't experienced the wonderful world of yahoo groups yet :1orglaugh

I'm going to drink a nice shiraz tonight, mmm red wine is the best.

I had the largest active black amateur porn group with yahoo until they closed it....That's how I got my start.

Cool, good stuff... I've got a few stores there. My pregnant store does better than SweetCuties believe it or not, lol.

Keep up the good work!

http://clips4sale.com/studio/22353 (sweetcuties)
http://clips4sale.com/studio/2299 (pregnantcoeds)

I'm about to crack a Pinot Noir

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Very nice.:thumbsup

Back atcha sweet tootsies. :thumbsup

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GREAT Post Barefootsies ! A very good read, thanks for giving us some of your experience :)

More than welcome buddy. :thumbsup

Hopefully some of the advice, tips and tricks, from not only myself, but other producers and store owners who've chimed in with some good advice and experience, can help some truly interested make a few more bucks.

You know, the main issue I would have with building a clips4sale store is the traffic leaks.
If the people do not exactly want what you are selling, they will leave the store and go to the clips4sale listings. You have no control over those lost surfers. So a good fraction of your hard work in building traffic will go to clips4sale.

Well that goes both ways.

Neil, or whomever is at the helm anymore, does a lot of advertising on Howard Stern. He buys traffic to throw at the main page, and other stuff over the years. I guess he should (and has) have the same expectation in outside links. Basically limiting, or eliminating them so you can't link to other sites in your network to some degree.

So,... that is a two way street on your leaks. I guess you, more than anyone, would appreciate when he made the change to stop people from linking off clips4sale then.
:2 cents:

We need more Markham in this thread. :winkwink:

Thanks so much for the info. That was very nice of you. ....and even nicer that you continued to follow-up, clarify, and go further. I'll remember to do something nice for you in return :)

It sort of reminds me of Andy Dunn's SexSwap newsletter (anyone remember him?) I miss his extreme generosity of information.

Here is a real life example...

http://www.gfy.com/15728814-post20.html

It is a little experiment I had started just to show some numbers behind the clip store on non-exclusive content. Not first run content. Minimal promotion. Easy return on investment.

More than welcome buddy.

A lot of others have chimed in the thread to make it a nice asset for those who do stores, or did not know how to go about it.

Make sure you read between the lines. There are a lot of different techniques mentioned in the thread on how to update, how to get the most from your content, and some other tips and tricks. I do not think anyone is going to spell it completely out for newbies, but a lot of the information is there.

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Wonderful and very helpful tutorial! I am only a little lost on one simple thing; it looks like you have to set up, on Cips4sale, a new account for every store you set up, with a new username and email address and all that, is that right?

That is correct.

You will end up linking them together in your admin section. Make sure all your business (or personal) information is the exact same. Then your stores will be groups together for your bank wire payment, as well, they will all show on the dope down in right hand corner of store.

Or you can always e-mail Gia at clips4sale.

Great post. Bookmarking now and will apply your pearls at my next free chunk of time. :)