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Barefootsies 03-04-2009 08:05 AM

Yes...

Feel free to kick yourself in the nuts repeatedly until you pass out.

Don't forget to buy me a BRO drink.

You're welcome.

:winkwink:

sweetcuties 03-04-2009 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15580748)
I finally listened to barefootsies INCESSANT rambling about clipstore this and clipstore that so I put up a clip store just to see what he was so fucking giggly about...

Here is mine http://www.clips4sale.com/store/24658

Well, I really want to kick myself in the nuts for not putting up the store sooner....All of the YEARS of missed money :(

I'm telling you this....If you have a lot of exclusive content in your members area, take some of that old content off the shelf, blow off the dust, and throw it up in your clip store....It takes NO EXTRA WORK on your part and you make money just by uploading it....

Now granted, I am sending my own traffic to it so I don't know how valuable being on the front page is but I believe that at least my first couple sales were a direct result of C4S's internal traffic...

If you're doing anything besides feet, you'll probably be ok because all you see on there is feet, feet, and more muthafucking feet......They even have weird fetished like "ruined ejaculations"....It's INCREDIBLE to see the depth of perversion in society..I haven't seen so much weird shit in one place for years....

Nice, I emailed you a few days ago with my clips store... it's good extra bank :thumbsup

vidvicious 03-04-2009 08:29 AM

this sounds very interesting .. I'v got some scenes i've never sold, maybe i should give this a whirl ... I've heard ab out C4S before, mostly for feet and ballon fetishes ... Most of my stuff is HC, Some Bi stuff and I think a few POV vids lying around .. might be fun to get some extra cash for scenes that are otherwise just lying around ..

Is this easy to do even for the Non webmasters like me ?

Barefootsies 03-04-2009 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by vidvicious (Post 15581119)
Is this easy to do even for the Non webmasters like me ?

Yes it is. Ask JimGunn.
:winkwink:

BVF 03-04-2009 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetcuties (Post 15581032)
Nice, I emailed you a few days ago with my clips store... it's good extra bank :thumbsup

I didn't get that email but I happened to have looked your studio up on there anyway....

Technically you were the first one who told me about C4S except back then you were mainly pushing DVD's through them.

BVF 03-04-2009 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 15580994)
Yes...

Feel free to kick yourself in the nuts repeatedly until you pass out.

Don't forget to buy me a BRO drink.

You're welcome.

:winkwink:

Here ya go....Cheers!!

http://www.bloggingbeirut.com/images...7/cheers1L.jpg

burntfilm 03-04-2009 10:27 AM

thanks !
 
Thanks for this thread, great resource- it's good to see who's making bank over there and what they're making it with.

C4S also has a pretty easy and sweet 50-50 cam interface with a MA plug that's worth checking out for solo girls - and especially for entertainers that perform in a particular fetish or nice.

boudoir 03-04-2009 11:30 AM

Thanks for the info.

One question ... if I sell semi-exclusive content and keep a license for myself, how does putting the content on a clip store fit in? ... especially if my license does not allow clip stores..?

Barefootsies 03-04-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by boudoir (Post 15581726)
Thanks for the info.

One question ... if I sell semi-exclusive content and keep a license for myself, how does putting the content on a clip store fit in? ... especially if my license does not allow clip stores..?

You shoot your own content, but license it to others?

I would guess since it is your license, and your rules, you can do what you want. I sell content, and I do not allow tube sites, DVD, VOD. But I can use it for those purposes on my own sites.

A lot of content providers are either very liberal with use, or very restricted. Some having time limits where you are essentially 'leasing' not licensing or buying.

2012 03-04-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15580748)
It's INCREDIBLE to see the depth of perversion in society..

i guess you haven't experienced the wonderful world of yahoo groups yet :1orglaugh

HorseShit 03-04-2009 11:55 AM

I'm going to drink a nice shiraz tonight, mmm red wine is the best.

BVF 03-04-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 15581823)
i guess you haven't experienced the wonderful world of yahoo groups yet :1orglaugh

I had the largest active black amateur porn group with yahoo until they closed it....That's how I got my start.

sweetcuties 03-04-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15581404)
I didn't get that email but I happened to have looked your studio up on there anyway....

Technically you were the first one who told me about C4S except back then you were mainly pushing DVD's through them.

Cool, good stuff... I've got a few stores there. My pregnant store does better than SweetCuties believe it or not, lol.

Keep up the good work!

http://clips4sale.com/studio/22353 (sweetcuties)
http://clips4sale.com/studio/2299 (pregnantcoeds)

Barefootsies 03-04-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15581852)
I'm going to drink a nice shiraz tonight, mmm red wine is the best.


BVF 03-04-2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15581852)
I'm going to drink a nice shiraz tonight, mmm red wine is the best.

I'm about to crack a Pinot Noir

Barefootsies 03-05-2009 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15581416)

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Barefootsies 03-05-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetcuties (Post 15582408)
Cool, good stuff... I've got a few stores there. My pregnant store does better than SweetCuties believe it or not, lol.

Keep up the good work!

http://clips4sale.com/studio/22353 (sweetcuties)
http://clips4sale.com/studio/2299 (pregnantcoeds)

Very nice.:thumbsup

Barefootsies 03-18-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetcuties (Post 15582408)
Cool, good stuff... I've got a few stores there. My pregnant store does better than SweetCuties believe it or not, lol.

Keep up the good work!

http://clips4sale.com/studio/22353 (sweetcuties)
http://clips4sale.com/studio/2299 (pregnantcoeds)

Back atcha sweet tootsies. :thumbsup

Barefootsies 03-23-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 15581823)
i guess you haven't experienced the wonderful world of yahoo groups yet :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

Rakie 03-23-2009 09:50 PM

GREAT Post Barefootsies ! A very good read, thanks for giving us some of your experience :)

Barefootsies 03-24-2009 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rakie (Post 15665216)
GREAT Post Barefootsies ! A very good read, thanks for giving us some of your experience :)

More than welcome buddy. :thumbsup

Hopefully some of the advice, tips and tricks, from not only myself, but other producers and store owners who've chimed in with some good advice and experience, can help some truly interested make a few more bucks.

Davy 03-30-2009 01:06 PM

You know, the main issue I would have with building a clips4sale store is the traffic leaks.
If the people do not exactly want what you are selling, they will leave the store and go to the clips4sale listings. You have no control over those lost surfers. So a good fraction of your hard work in building traffic will go to clips4sale.

Barefootsies 03-30-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy (Post 15688886)
You know, the main issue I would have with building a clips4sale store is the traffic leaks.
If the people do not exactly want what you are selling, they will leave the store and go to the clips4sale listings. You have no control over those lost surfers. So a good fraction of your hard work in building traffic will go to clips4sale.

Well that goes both ways.

Neil, or whomever is at the helm anymore, does a lot of advertising on Howard Stern. He buys traffic to throw at the main page, and other stuff over the years. I guess he should (and has) have the same expectation in outside links. Basically limiting, or eliminating them so you can't link to other sites in your network to some degree.

So,... that is a two way street on your leaks. I guess you, more than anyone, would appreciate when he made the change to stop people from linking off clips4sale then.
:2 cents:

Barefootsies 04-02-2009 06:37 AM

We need more Markham in this thread. :winkwink:

amvcdotcom 04-09-2009 04:26 PM

Thanks so much for the info. That was very nice of you. ....and even nicer that you continued to follow-up, clarify, and go further. I'll remember to do something nice for you in return :)

It sort of reminds me of Andy Dunn's SexSwap newsletter (anyone remember him?) I miss his extreme generosity of information.

Barefootsies 04-10-2009 01:58 AM

Here is a real life example...

http://www.gfy.com/15728814-post20.html

It is a little experiment I had started just to show some numbers behind the clip store on non-exclusive content. Not first run content. Minimal promotion. Easy return on investment.

Barefootsies 04-12-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by amvcdotcom (Post 15727799)
Thanks so much for the info. That was very nice of you. ....and even nicer that you continued to follow-up, clarify, and go further. I'll remember to do something nice for you in return :)

It sort of reminds me of Andy Dunn's SexSwap newsletter (anyone remember him?) I miss his extreme generosity of information.

More than welcome buddy.

A lot of others have chimed in the thread to make it a nice asset for those who do stores, or did not know how to go about it.

Make sure you read between the lines. There are a lot of different techniques mentioned in the thread on how to update, how to get the most from your content, and some other tips and tricks. I do not think anyone is going to spell it completely out for newbies, but a lot of the information is there.

:winkwink:

Spelvin 04-16-2009 09:28 AM

Wonderful and very helpful tutorial! I am only a little lost on one simple thing; it looks like you have to set up, on Cips4sale, a new account for every store you set up, with a new username and email address and all that, is that right?

Barefootsies 04-16-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spelvin (Post 15751131)
Wonderful and very helpful tutorial! I am only a little lost on one simple thing; it looks like you have to set up, on Cips4sale, a new account for every store you set up, with a new username and email address and all that, is that right?

That is correct.

You will end up linking them together in your admin section. Make sure all your business (or personal) information is the exact same. Then your stores will be groups together for your bank wire payment, as well, they will all show on the dope down in right hand corner of store.

Or you can always e-mail Gia at clips4sale.

ModelPerfect 04-17-2009 12:05 AM

Great post. Bookmarking now and will apply your pearls at my next free chunk of time. :)

Barefootsies 04-17-2009 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ModelPerfect (Post 15753819)
Great post. Bookmarking now and will apply your pearls at my next free chunk of time. :)

:winkwink:

Kiwigirl 04-17-2009 12:03 PM

Great post, good read and fantastic feed back for those who need it.
Job well done in sharing the info Barefootsies! :thumbsup

Barefootsies 04-20-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwigirl (Post 15755560)
Great post, good read and fantastic feed back for those who need it.
Job well done in sharing the info Barefootsies! :thumbsup

Thanks little cutie. When can I get some toe pix. :winkwink:

For those looking for a working example (more extensive than post #146)
http://www.gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/899336-50-clips-50-bonus-500-00-revised.html

You do not always need exclusive to bank on clip stores. However, I honestly doubt tired 1000 times rerun shit will sell well unless priced accordingly. In the end, it will come down to can you market and have some decent content.

papagmp 04-20-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MsCheyenne (Post 15495727)
People have the option of purchasing my videos individually or buying a membership for $40 a month. My membership web site has thousands of videos and hi res photos....years worth. You would be surprised how many people spend more than $40. purchasing single clips than joining the web site...every month. Beyond that, think of selling clips like selling samples. You actually get paid for people to watch enough of your content to decide if they like it enough to join your web site. :-) Clips4Sale rocks.

Cheyenne

Couldn't have said it better - I started using clip stores a few months back diverting some of my own traffic to the store. Now I'm seeing people sign up for my pay sites from the clip stores AFTER already spending two to three times as much on clips as the original membership would have cost them. Not that I'm complaining........

Barefootsies 04-21-2009 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kinky John (Post 15495751)
depends how you look at it..

if you feed clipstores yourself, and your sales come mainly from self generated traffic,
then effectively clips4sale is just another % taking content delivery platform / processor

however.. regards my reference to "back in the day"

for those who don't ( or didn't then ) feed their clipstores, and rely on c4s traffic
then the majority of the in-house clips4sale traffic comes from the index page,
to show on the index page you need to be updating regular & / or advertising..
when there were LESS people signed up, stores stayed on the index longer..

Agreed.

Back in the "good ole days" there were less than 5,000 (now over 20,000) stores. So it was all about the 'pop'. Neil bought traffic and threw it at the main page, also did his Howard Stern promos, among other things.

You would be on the main page for a few hours, or most of the day (depending on when you were around) and then you could take advantage of the 'pop' traffic and depend on it. As many did.

I, however, always promoted mine elsewhere. I hate being dependent on other people's traffic, or I should say one traffic source. So I would add clip store links to my other things and drive some more traffic to the store. It has served me well.

The 'pop' was always nice, and I still consider it when doing updates. But I consider that gravy traffic, and do not bank on it. It is not clips4sale's responsibility to get me traffic.

Barefootsies 04-23-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by papagmp (Post 15766118)
Couldn't have said it better - I started using clip stores a few months back diverting some of my own traffic to the store. Now I'm seeing people sign up for my pay sites from the clip stores AFTER already spending two to three times as much on clips as the original membership would have cost them. Not that I'm complaining........

Go true. I have said this for YEARS.

It always surprises me people want their $30 so badly, they discount those people who will buy hundreds of dollars in clips a month off the clip store. Unbelievable.
:2 cents:

Barefootsies 04-29-2009 10:54 AM

Oh my....


Spelvin 09-11-2009 01:53 PM

If I have clips that I'd hope to sell nonexclusive rights to, to a webmaster or something, would having those clips up on clips4sale make a person less likely to want to buy the rights?

fmltube 09-11-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spelvin (Post 16307770)
If I have clips that I'd hope to sell nonexclusive rights to, to a webmaster or something, would having those clips up on clips4sale make a person less likely to want to buy the rights?

I would think that is possible. Depending on the scene and demand, it may swing either way.

Barefootsies 09-11-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spelvin (Post 16307770)
If I have clips that I'd hope to sell nonexclusive rights to, to a webmaster or something, would having those clips up on clips4sale make a person less likely to want to buy the rights?

Depends on the company.

Content can be worked from many different angles. Some people think you need exclusive, and that is not always the case. In the end it will come down to who can market the best, and who know how to work the system.

Whether clips4sale, or tgp's, pay sites, tube hybrids, whatever. Knowing 'how to sell' is equally as important as the best, most exclusive, most professional, content in the world.

:2 cents:


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