He has done it more then once. All three of those teens needs an ass kicking. Doing it once, people can possibly forgive. They said they beat the cat many times. So hang the little fuckers. :2 cents:


We found the teens also uploaded a second video of themselves abusing Dusty. A teen wearing a black ski-mask begins the video by denying his actions are wrong. "Today's test is initiating a kid named Dusty, which happens to be a cat, so it's technically not animal abuse," he says to the camera.

In appears they filmed this video before the other, in which the masked teen refers to himself as "The Animal Abuser". In this second video, the boy grabs the cat by the head and repeatedly slams it against a tiled floor. He and his brother also mention how they've treated the cat in the past.

"We've taught him to disregard punishment in any way. Do not take this offensively." They ask the cat if he is ready and proceed to spray it with a water bottle. Then the kid yells "I will kill you" at the cat, and punches and shakes the cat while it screams.

I forget the exact details but years ago a buddy of mine adopted a dog that had been abused by it's previous owners. I've never seen a more easily frightened or neurotic animal before or since.

While it's true that four legged critters don't exactly sit down and philosophize over the course their lives have taken, they too can be get permanently fucked up from sufficient trauma. If that cat's not back to normal within the next week or so, it'll never be.

As for the kid. No, his life should not be destroyed. Of course not.

But I'd hate like hell for him to ever minimize or forget what he did either.

I never said they feel sorry for themselves, or that they have the same emotions as a human. You said those words, and then made a stupid fucking insult like a petulant school child.

I said the word 'normal' and i stick by it, as i have personally dealt with cats which have been abused and i do not consider them to have the same life a normal cat does thereafter. They can get better, yes! They can learn to trust humans again, Yes! But the damage has been done. Depending of course on how extreme each case is.

Save your stupid insults for elsewhere in future...

that's just not true. many severely abused animals take a long time to trust people again. they remember exactly what people have done, or at least whether or not they can trust people.

So they get better, they learn to trust humans again, what exactly then makes them "not normal" after? What do you mean by that, you can't seem to define it that's why I tried to define it for you. What is it that's not normal?

My sister is a Vet, she's wanted to be one since she was a little girl. We've therefore had pretty much every animal you can imagine. Rescued chickens, cats, dogs, a horse, snakes, birds you name it, she brought the god damned things home. I remember there being as many as 7 or 8 cats at one damned time. All rescued from various situations. Everyone, well except maybe the one legged chicken she had, seemed pretty "normal" after the fact.

It works the same for pets who do trust their owners. They wait for them coming home, they spend the full day following the owner around the house.

So animals DO learn to trust people who treat them well, just the same as they begin to not trust people, who have been treating them bad.

Emotions ? How can any human know exaclty what emotion an animal has anyway ? Simple, we don't...

Yeah, it can take a really long time, and sometimes it's not even possible. Some dogs we've worked with were just too dangerous and too damaged to rehabilitate. They've basically snapped.

The cat we're talking about here is clearly not at that stage, however. The Vet says it's fine apparently. It will be just fine, it won't sit around feeling bad about things that happened to it in the past. That's what we're talking about here. That cat will be just as "normal" as any other cat.

The things we saw happen to that cat were unfortunately pretty low on the scale of cruelty man can show to animals. I say unfortunately because even that level is unacceptable, but all things considered it was really minor compared to the kinds of things people do to animals.

100% wrong. It has been proven time and time again that animals have memories.

Nobody said anywhere that animals don't have memories. Please read, then post. Not the other way around. Thanks.

Just because a Cat might lead a good life after such treatment doesnt justify the hurt caused to it in the first place. It still feels pain, it still feels hurt. Anyone who says anything else is wrong.

I hope that poor cat leads a nice life from here on in, it certainly deserves it. That kid is bad through and through.

I'll quote your own reply for this one :

And yes before you respond, hopefully you are correct in this case that the cat isn't at that stage, and hopefully it can go on to have a good life, with an owner who will look after it properly. I wish i could bring the cat here and i'd look after it. We don't know though how much damage is done. If the vet has said is should be ok, then i'm happy with that.

Like i say, we've had cats who just simply weren't ever gonna have the life they should, but we did our damn best to make it as good as it could be...

I adopted a German Shepherd that was abused. She just turned 8 and I adopted her when she just turned 4. She suffers every day from the past abuse. She will sit in a chair and rock back and forth for hours. She is scared of any voice that is raised. Scared to the point that she will pee and hide in a corner. Sometimes when you pet her she will freak out and lay down like she is dead. She has high anxiety and the vet just put her on anxiety medication. I had hoped that she would not need medication, but after four years of her being scared every day she needs it. The vet told me it is like they beat the dog out of Lola and she is just a shell.

I also have fostered many abused dogs. One hid behind the couch for a week. She was that scared of people. Another as so scared of people that she would nip anyone that came by her. Another named Mickey was scared of everything. He would cry all the time and pee everywhere. They were all adopted to nice homes, but they still have issues to this day. They will never be normal dogs. They are always going to have their issues because they were abused. Just like Dusty the cat will have issues.

Well maybe I was confused initially, because it really sounded like you were suggesting that no matter the circumstances, that cat could never be normal again.

Absolutely some animals have been abused past the point of returning. Some humans too for that matter. Humans tend to remember the good times and feel sorry for the bad times, where as animals don't do that. That's all I was getting at.

Nope, because like you, i have seen pets go on and have a good life even after the abuse.




JaneB's post above yours is just terrible to read, and it what i was trying to say without originally giving any examples. Just horrible... :(

Normally I wouldn't bother responding to you because as you know I think you're an idiot.

However, because I am such a fan of animals, I will this time.

You might consider checking out some of Casear Milan's books. Yeah, that's the Dog Whisperer from television.

The Sheperd reacts to loud voices like that as a conditioned response. That is, yelling most probably preceeded or was included in abuse it suffered. It hears loud voices and gets scared. It's a conditioned response that will remain even if the circumstances change. In other words, even though it no longer gets abused after hearing loud voices, it will still go through the same mechanisms until that conditioning is undone.

I would love to see someone take a steel bat to those fuckers :mad:

You always respond to me and everyone on this board. You are in pretty much every thread on here. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

That being said I know who Casear Milan is. I know all about German Shepherds. I did bother to read and learn all about them right after I adopted Lola. You wanted to know what not normal was and I gave you examples. There are plenty of animals that are not going to be normal after they were abused. Perhaps instead of being an asshole on here all the time, you should donate your free time to helping abused animals. It would actually amount to something. :2 cents:

I currently have three Rottweilers so I'm all full up on animals.

One of the females I got at 9 months old. Raised voices or worse yet, the site of someone's hands (not even raised) would send her in to a panic. She'd drop down on her belly, burry her head as best she could and tremble with fear.

She doesn't do any of that anymore, and is more or less a normal dog other than some medical issues (Addisons disease) that can cause funny behaviour related to stress. The reason she isn't afraid of those things anymore is because they've been conditioned back out of her. Loud voices and peoples hands are now associated with relaxed feelings, food and affection and not abuse and fear so they don't scare her one little bit. She's one of the friendliest dogs I've had now, loves everyone. It just takes patience and most importantly knowledge.

After four years I have all the patience in the world. Lola also has a trainer that we work with. Everything has been tried with her and she is not any better. She also has three lower vertebrae that are fused from being physically abused. I think that she will always be anxious. No matter what I will always love her. The vet said that Lola is lucky that we adopted her because most people would not put all the energy and money that we have into her. The truth is I am lucky to have her. She brings so much love and joy to my life. I also have a black lab/rottie mix. She was abused as well. I adopted her when she was 11 months old and she will be 6 in July. She has some minor issues, but overall she is doing great.

Listen, these assholes abused Dusty on camera 2 times. God knows what the little shit did to him off camera.

The fucker must pay dearly. And the current laws won't do shit to a minor. (community service at best)

Fortunately we as a society don't let mentally unbalanced social outcasts with no interpersonal skills what so ever, like yourself, dictate how children should be punished.

Everyone knows who they are now anyway.

Someone will give them the beating of a lifetime soon enough. And i hope they post it on YouTube... :thumbsup


Karma is a bitch !!!! :pimp

Fortunately we have people who care step up and serve street justice.

:thumbsup

I've had people emailing me offering a bounty on him. No joke.

I do work for a local Beagle shelter that gets a lot of dogs that were unfortunately abused. I can only speak from what I've seen. Many of the dogs that come in that have been abused never truly recover. Even though they can function in a household with normal people, they never again act like a regular dog. They take a long time to trust someone and are scared to death of strangers. Some other dogs are fine though and you wouldn't know they had been abused, while others are so badly damaged that it's only humane to put them down.

In any event, whether the animal recovers mentally is beside the point. We don't hold the consequences of a rapist to that of how well the victim recovers. The kid is a sick individual and the world would be better off without him polluting our gene pool.

No you don't. You have a bunch of cowards that will make websites, and try to dispense virtual justice from behind their keyboards. None of you little cowards will have the balls to do anything of consequence in real life.

It's a shame that one of your anonymous buddys doesn't get the balls up to go over to that house. Being shot in the face by the kid's father might help wake the rest of you idiots up.

What is worse, making the websites and virtual justice, or actually breaking the law? From what I've gathered, despite your distaste for what the mob online has done, they are not breaking laws (unlike the kid). Seems you would have more respect for them if they were criminals.

Like i say, we know they won't come to justice through the system.

They will have to get dealt with the other way. Someone WILL get them...

Thankfully both cats will not be going back to that home. I hope they both find loving new homes.

I do not think that is true. I think many people on here would do something in person if they were close enough to the family. People take abuse seriously. I just read about a kid in FL that was locked in a bathroom for a year and beaten. I would love 10 minutes with his adoptive parents.

NEVER FORGET

http://i40.tinypic.com/19wpia.jpg

I typed neverforgetaboutdusty into Google.

A link for the Pet Shop Boys came up :

How scary is that??? So appropriate too... :(

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

unconfirmed Dusty sighting:

http://dilidoo.com/img/img2/20090216/metro_18.jpg

:2 cents:
No fucking around with pussy. Pussy is all our common bizz :winkwink:
Not for lame spoiled 13 year olds to beat-up & tube for fun.
Youth these days need some serious ass whooping and get some responsiblity in their thick MTV heads. Happy slapping videos suck too especially when some wannabe's slap around mentally retarded for youtube attention. That's just really seriously wrong.