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DarkJedi 02-16-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 15505856)
Animal abuse is evil and awful, but doesn't GFY have a rule about posting personal information like phone numbers, etc?

Its not personal. It was on his myspace/youtube/dads oil company website.

YellowDude 02-16-2009 09:38 PM

For me, fuck the kid anal major time, without lube

DarkJedi 02-16-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 15505584)
Has that kid got buttfucked yet or what?

Parents took his bike away for 2 weeks.

YellowDude 02-16-2009 09:40 PM

Great work Davey and fuck the people who are defending the kid

monkeysnap 02-16-2009 10:39 PM

http://www.ripenedpeach.com/misc/AG-10.jpg

GregE 02-16-2009 11:03 PM

Didn't that kid get banned from this board like about a year ago?

He used to post under the screen name nofx if I remember correctly.

Kard63 02-16-2009 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15505908)
Parents took his bike away for 2 weeks.

You are fucking bullshitting me. That is all that happened? I thought it was going to be on CNN.

WarChild 02-16-2009 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by YellowDude (Post 15505914)
Great work Davey and fuck the people who are defending the kid

Show me one post where someone is defending the kid.

bhutocracy 02-16-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeysnap (Post 15506079)


BVF 02-16-2009 11:53 PM

Nope...not gonna click on that....The look on that cat's face from the screencap was enough...Plus I have a cat.

PornAddict 02-16-2009 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 15506227)

It's a video similar to this that made me turn vegetarian. I won't lie... it's been difficult to adapt but everytime I get weak, I think of the lives I'm saving. It's easy to eat meat when your head is in the sand and you see it all nicely packaged, but once you get a look at the faces... it's easy to eat something else.

- PornAddict

ExLust 02-16-2009 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15500186)

Animals are like little kids. Cute and charming. Deserve respects from human. :2 cents:

pocketkangaroo 02-17-2009 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PornAddict (Post 15506286)
It's a video similar to this that made me turn vegetarian. I won't lie... it's been difficult to adapt but everytime I get weak, I think of the lives I'm saving. It's easy to eat meat when your head is in the sand and you see it all nicely packaged, but once you get a look at the faces... it's easy to eat something else.

- PornAddict

I'm kind of torn on that issue. While I think it's horrible, I don't think it's any worse than what would happen to them in the wild. Ripped apart from slowly and eaten alive by a bigger animal. Or perhaps starving or dying of dehydration. Still, I have cut back on my meat and buy eggs and other products from humane places.

I think there is a big difference though in the two scenarios. One is killing an animal for nourishment and other things. The other is torturing an animal for fun and nothing else.

Elli 02-17-2009 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15505905)
Its not personal. It was on his myspace/youtube/dads oil company website.

Alright, carry on then.

Blazed 02-17-2009 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by YellowDude (Post 15505914)
Great work Davey and fuck the people who are defending the kid

Some people seem to have trouble controlling their emotions. Watching that video will fill you with anger alright but look at the bigger picture for a minute.

GregE 02-17-2009 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Blazed (Post 15506438)
Some people seem to have trouble controlling their emotions. Watching that video will fill you with anger alright but look at the bigger picture for a minute.

What bigger picture?

People who do that sort of thing are fucked up and they'll always be fucked up.

BTW, it looks like the sheriff came for the little shit and his idiot friend :thumbsup

bhutocracy 02-17-2009 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 15506320)
I'm kind of torn on that issue. While I think it's horrible, I don't think it's any worse than what would happen to them in the wild. Ripped apart from slowly and eaten alive by a bigger animal. Or perhaps starving or dying of dehydration. Still, I have cut back on my meat and buy eggs and other products from humane places.

I think there is a big difference though in the two scenarios. One is killing an animal for nourishment and other things. The other is torturing an animal for fun and nothing else.

Is the abuse Dusty suffered worse than being torn apart by a bigger animal or starving in the wild?

A big scenario difference? A full pampered life inside a house with full freedom and food catered it's preference plus a couple of minutes of barbaric abuse vs a shitty short life unable to move and standing in your own shit on atrophied legs plus castration, dehorning, debeaking, branding then a couple of minutes of additional torture and then death.

Honestly for a second, which would you pick, Dusty or any of the animals you eat on a day to day basis churned out of corporate factory farms?

Not preaching, I've killed more animals than 99% of people here, just playing devil's advocate.

Blazed 02-17-2009 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 15506446)
What bigger picture?

People who do that sort of thing are fucked up and they'll always be fucked up.

BTW, it looks like the sheriff came for the little shit and his idiot friend :thumbsup


The bigger picture is exactly the opposite, he is a 13 year old child hes done something stupid he is far from being a permanent fuck up just yet.

I poured bleach in my fish tank just to kill the fish so i could sell the tank, i felt sick straight after as they were going all rigid and weird looking as they died. I still think of it to this day and dont know what the hell was going through my head to make me do that i wouldnt dream of doing anything like that now.

If this kid was 20 years old its a total different story, its just ignorant to say this guy is fucked up for life because he beat up a cat when he is a child.

GregE 02-17-2009 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Blazed (Post 15506479)
The bigger picture is exactly the opposite, he is a 13 year old child hes done something stupid he is far from being a permanent fuck up just yet.

I poured bleach in my fish tank just to kill the fish so i could sell the tank, i felt sick straight after as they were going all rigid and weird looking as they died. I still think of it to this day and dont know what the hell was going through my head to make me do that i wouldnt dream of doing anything like that now.

You felt sick straight after.

He proudly posted a video record of his deed for all to see.

Huge difference.

Blazed 02-17-2009 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 15506499)
You felt sick straight after.

He proudly posted a video record of his deed for all to see.

Huge difference.

The actual act itself is the same we both done something 99% of people would consider sick, the fact he never had a conscience could be down to a lot of things likely parenting.

Maybe he is destined to be the next jack the ripper but at 13 it is far to young to label someone fucked up for life. Even a full grown adult can completely change themselves, their personality their outlook on life everything can change, children are much more supceptable to change given the proper help.

monkeysnap 02-17-2009 03:19 AM

That kid needs help. He's maybe been abused himself or at least has severe issues to take him to this point. He needs someone to take him into custody and see what's what. He posted it on YouTube because that's what you're supposed to do to be cool these days.

When I was his age and raised as a Jehovah's Witness I got beat up and made fun of constantly, and I did some stupid shit to lash out or try to fit in. I didn't abuse animals but I'm sure glad some of the shit I did do isn't still out there on video to haunt me today. I can't even imagine how bad it must suck to do a stupid kid thing and pay for it the rest of your life. I have kids of my own and I totally sympathize with some of the kids out there who can never live down a thing they did with a kid's mind, not that of an adult.

The Internet takes lynch mobs to a whole new level. Scary.

DarkJedi 02-17-2009 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ExLust (Post 15506287)
Animals are like little kids. Cute and charming. Deserve respects from human. :2 cents:

cats > humans


plus, there is no way he could defend himself.

if the little shit was wailing like that on his brother, i'd have no problem whatsoever. but the poor cat is 30x smaller than he is.

:2 cents: :2 cents:

DarkJedi 02-17-2009 07:33 AM

http://www.kswo.com/Global/story.asp?S=9855010

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Accused cat abusers will face charges Tuesday
Posted: Feb 17, 2009 06:27 AM

Comanche County_Two teenage brothers accused of beating a cat will meet Tuesday with investigators and the Comanche County District Attorney. The courthouse was closed Monday for Presidents Day, but Comanche County Sheriff Kenny Stradley said the teens will face charges of animal cruelty from District Attorney Robert Schulte's office.

Stradley says they are furthering their investigation to see if the 2 brothers abused other animals in addition to Dusty. 7NEWS discovered proof this wasn't the first time they abused the cat.

In appears they filmed this video before the other, in which the masked teen refers to himself as "The Animal Abuser". In this second video, the boy grabs the cat by the head and repeatedly slams it against a tiled floor. He and his brother also mention how they've treated the cat in the past.

"We've taught him to disregard punishment in any way. Do not take this offensively." They ask the cat if he is ready and proceed to spray it with a water bottle. Then the kid yells "I will kill you" at the cat, and punches and shakes the cat while it screams.
motherfuckers :BangBang:

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-17-2009 07:59 AM

Good job...

Scott McD 02-17-2009 11:06 AM

I'd pay someone good money to kill that kid. I don't care what anyone on here says.

I watched both vids posted on here of him abusing the cat, anyone who says the kid doesn't deserve to get his life ruined is an idiot!

I'd take great pleasure in ruining it for him. They shouldn't charge him, just let him back to his parents house. Everyone knows who he is now and where he stays anyway, so he wouldn't last 1 day.


Kenny Glenn - DIE !!!!

Scott McD 02-17-2009 11:45 AM

I'd probably have got less sleep tonight after watching those vids if i didn't know that the assholes had been caught, and that the cat is now safe, although will never be a 'normal' cat anymore.

So in a way it's just aswell the asshole felt the need to upload his vid to YouTube.

Now i hope he dies, incase i forgot to mention it... :)

WarChild 02-17-2009 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 15508330)
I'd probably have got less sleep tonight after watching those vids if i didn't know that the assholes had been caught, and that the cat is now safe, although will never be a 'normal' cat anymore.

So in a way it's just aswell the asshole felt the need to upload his vid to YouTube.

Now i hope he dies, incase i forgot to mention it... :)

Oh please just fuck off with the not a "normal" cat anymore. As someone who has rescued more than one abused animal I can confidently tell you that animals live in the moment they don't dwell on the past. That's a purely human emotion, you god damned shit clown.

Scott McD 02-17-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15508334)
Oh please just fuck off with the not a "normal" cat anymore. As someone who has rescued more than one abused animal I can confidently tell you that animals live in the moment they don't dwell on the past. That's a purely human emotion, you god damned shit clown.

You obviously have no clue. We have had 3 rescued cats here before. 2 were treated cruely by previous owners. They don't act, behave, and do the things around the house you would expect from a 'normal' treated cat. One of the cats took approx 2 months before it trusted anyone. It always waited one of the cupboard doors because it thought it should be locked in it all day, like it was before. Even though we never ONCE put it in there.

Do you think they have a short memory span or something ??

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 02-17-2009 12:01 PM

http://extremetracking.com/open;unique?login=kennygle 55k uniques yesterday?

get some adsense on that shit, lol

WarChild 02-17-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 15508414)
You obviously have no clue. We have had 3 rescued cats here before. 2 were treated cruely by previous owners. They don't act, behave, and do the things around the house you would expect from a 'normal' treated cat. One of the cats took approx 2 months before it trusted anyone. It always waited one of the cupboard doors because it thought it should be locked in it all day, like it was before. Even though we never ONCE put it in there.

Do you think they have a short memory span or something ??

Cats and dogs do not have the same range of emotions that humans do. They don't lay around and feel sorry for themselves or their circumstances.

Yes, they can be conditioned to fear among other things, and it may take a long time to remove that conditioning, but it's not the human emotions you seem to think it is. Let's try to remember, cats and dogs are not humans and don't have human emotions.

It has nothing to do with memory span. Animals neither sit around remembering the good times nor lamenting the bad. Please, that's what humans do.

JaneB 02-17-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blazed (Post 15506527)
The actual act itself is the same we both done something 99% of people would consider sick, the fact he never had a conscience could be down to a lot of things likely parenting.

Maybe he is destined to be the next jack the ripper but at 13 it is far to young to label someone fucked up for life. Even a full grown adult can completely change themselves, their personality their outlook on life everything can change, children are much more supceptable to change given the proper help.


He has done it more then once. All three of those teens needs an ass kicking. Doing it once, people can possibly forgive. They said they beat the cat many times. So hang the little fuckers. :2 cents:


We found the teens also uploaded a second video of themselves abusing Dusty. A teen wearing a black ski-mask begins the video by denying his actions are wrong. "Today's test is initiating a kid named Dusty, which happens to be a cat, so it's technically not animal abuse," he says to the camera.

In appears they filmed this video before the other, in which the masked teen refers to himself as "The Animal Abuser". In this second video, the boy grabs the cat by the head and repeatedly slams it against a tiled floor. He and his brother also mention how they've treated the cat in the past.

"We've taught him to disregard punishment in any way. Do not take this offensively." They ask the cat if he is ready and proceed to spray it with a water bottle. Then the kid yells "I will kill you" at the cat, and punches and shakes the cat while it screams.

topnotch, standup guy 02-17-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15508334)
Oh please just fuck off with the not a "normal" cat anymore. As someone who has rescued more than one abused animal I can confidently tell you that animals live in the moment they don't dwell on the past. That's a purely human emotion, you god damned shit clown.

I forget the exact details but years ago a buddy of mine adopted a dog that had been abused by it's previous owners. I've never seen a more easily frightened or neurotic animal before or since.

While it's true that four legged critters don't exactly sit down and philosophize over the course their lives have taken, they too can be get permanently fucked up from sufficient trauma. If that cat's not back to normal within the next week or so, it'll never be.

As for the kid. No, his life should not be destroyed. Of course not.

But I'd hate like hell for him to ever minimize or forget what he did either.

Scott McD 02-17-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15508484)
Cats and dogs do not have the same range of emotions that humans do. They don't lay around and feel sorry for themselves or their circumstances.

Yes, they can be conditioned to fear among other things, and it may take a long time to remove that conditioning, but it's not the human emotions you seem to think it is. Let's try to remember, cats and dogs are not humans and don't have human emotions.

It has nothing to do with memory span. Animals neither sit around remembering the good times nor lamenting the bad. Please, that's what humans do.

I never said they feel sorry for themselves, or that they have the same emotions as a human. You said those words, and then made a stupid fucking insult like a petulant school child.

I said the word 'normal' and i stick by it, as i have personally dealt with cats which have been abused and i do not consider them to have the same life a normal cat does thereafter. They can get better, yes! They can learn to trust humans again, Yes! But the damage has been done. Depending of course on how extreme each case is.

Save your stupid insults for elsewhere in future...

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 02-17-2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15508334)
Oh please just fuck off with the not a "normal" cat anymore. As someone who has rescued more than one abused animal I can confidently tell you that animals live in the moment they don't dwell on the past. That's a purely human emotion, you god damned shit clown.

that's just not true. many severely abused animals take a long time to trust people again. they remember exactly what people have done, or at least whether or not they can trust people.

WarChild 02-17-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 15508601)
I never said they feel sorry for themselves, or that they have the same emotions as a human. You said those words, and then made a stupid fucking insult like a petulant school child.

I said the word 'normal' and i stick by it, as i have personally dealt with cats which have been abused and i do not consider them to have the same life a normal cat does thereafter. They can get better, yes! They can learn to trust humans again, Yes! But the damage has been done. Depending of course on how extreme each case is.

Save your stupid insults for elsewhere in future...

So they get better, they learn to trust humans again, what exactly then makes them "not normal" after? What do you mean by that, you can't seem to define it that's why I tried to define it for you. What is it that's not normal?

My sister is a Vet, she's wanted to be one since she was a little girl. We've therefore had pretty much every animal you can imagine. Rescued chickens, cats, dogs, a horse, snakes, birds you name it, she brought the god damned things home. I remember there being as many as 7 or 8 cats at one damned time. All rescued from various situations. Everyone, well except maybe the one legged chicken she had, seemed pretty "normal" after the fact.

Scott McD 02-17-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 15508623)
that's just not true. many severely abused animals take a long time to trust people again. they remember exactly what people have done, or at least whether or not they can trust people.

It works the same for pets who do trust their owners. They wait for them coming home, they spend the full day following the owner around the house.

So animals DO learn to trust people who treat them well, just the same as they begin to not trust people, who have been treating them bad.

Emotions ? How can any human know exaclty what emotion an animal has anyway ? Simple, we don't...

WarChild 02-17-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 15508623)
that's just not true. many severely abused animals take a long time to trust people again. they remember exactly what people have done, or at least whether or not they can trust people.

Yeah, it can take a really long time, and sometimes it's not even possible. Some dogs we've worked with were just too dangerous and too damaged to rehabilitate. They've basically snapped.

The cat we're talking about here is clearly not at that stage, however. The Vet says it's fine apparently. It will be just fine, it won't sit around feeling bad about things that happened to it in the past. That's what we're talking about here. That cat will be just as "normal" as any other cat.

The things we saw happen to that cat were unfortunately pretty low on the scale of cruelty man can show to animals. I say unfortunately because even that level is unacceptable, but all things considered it was really minor compared to the kinds of things people do to animals.

papill0n 02-17-2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15508334)
Oh please just fuck off with the not a "normal" cat anymore. As someone who has rescued more than one abused animal I can confidently tell you that animals live in the moment they don't dwell on the past. That's a purely human emotion, you god damned shit clown.

100% wrong. It has been proven time and time again that animals have memories.

WarChild 02-17-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben (Post 15508704)
100% wrong. It has been proven time and time again that animals have memories.

Nobody said anywhere that animals don't have memories. Please read, then post. Not the other way around. Thanks.

Ross 02-17-2009 12:27 PM

Just because a Cat might lead a good life after such treatment doesnt justify the hurt caused to it in the first place. It still feels pain, it still feels hurt. Anyone who says anything else is wrong.

I hope that poor cat leads a nice life from here on in, it certainly deserves it. That kid is bad through and through.


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