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Zorgman 02-21-2009 07:41 AM

I did this, no big deal.

- When I moved into my secure unit, i had to show them these ID's and paper work.
- Getting a credit card - same.
- Getting my photo ID at a RTA - same.

There is so much ID fraud out there, I don't mind them taking these extra steps to make it more secure.

Do you have something to hide or is it just pride?

Oracle Porn 02-21-2009 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ (Post 15530628)
i only used it to buy content and pay for other services to other epass owners, and get paid by sponsors.

oh so you only paid, bought and got paid using epassporte? doesnt sound like you even need epass at all... :)

fuzebox 02-21-2009 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYRangers (Post 15530594)
Seriously,... this should be no issue if you aren't bouncing around. (and trust me, I don't want to hear stupid business"organization" stories)

It was a huge pain in the ass for me, I haven't gotten a utility bill in years, and don't have anything with my name on it... Took a few days for me to come up with some paperwork that epass would accept, but they did and I haven't had a problem since.

Dagwolf 02-21-2009 08:07 AM

... Not crazy about the change myself, it's a pain in the ass.
I'm at a live-in school and my docs don't match my address; I won't be able to get the required papers in before the deadline they've given me.


Looks like I'm going over to checks for a while at least.

CyberHustler 02-21-2009 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 15530608)
Wise move, the banks charge only $15.00 per check but there's always Chio's flawless solution I guess...

:1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 02-21-2009 08:34 AM

For everyone who says "whats the big deal" or "just like a bank "

I should remind you epassporte is not a bank , you get no interest , your money is not insured and you would never have opened an account without i.d. so thus the bank would never "seize" your money.

I should also remind you , you have no idea where your id is stored , what countries nationals have access to your id, what safeguards are in place to protect your id etc etc.

Epassporte has everything needed to thieve your identity.

Remember 9/11 , all those terrorists had fake identities they stole from someone , likely by hacking or having a plant in an org just like this.

In the usa you have a reasonable expectation that when you show your id at the bank , it is an american checking the i.d. and you have legal options if they dont honour your privacy, all this goes out the window when you willingly give your id to someone who may or may not be american , who may or may not be bound by privacy laws, who may or may not be linked to a terrorist organization.

PlugRush Sascha 02-21-2009 08:43 AM

Fist they take on your identity, then they use your money to buy bomb materials and a plane... and then they bomb the whole wordl! I knew ePassporte was out for global domination!

If you don't want to send them your documents, don't. That's pretty simple. Bitching about their policies on GFY won't change them. Plenty of people send in their documents and they could probably care less if you stop using them to protect your privacy.

Supz 02-21-2009 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 15530468)
So you are complaining someone who is holding your money in a similar way to a bank wants the same identification that a bank requires? It is for your own safety so they can verify you are you and not someone pretending to be you.

bank here only require a photo id and your social.

SmokeyTheBear 02-21-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktj4l (Post 15531041)
Fist they take on your identity, then they use your money to buy bomb materials and a plane... and then they bomb the whole wordl!.


or some iranian just steals you identity and puts you in debt for life :thumbsup

they both sound like bad things 2 me .

and yes bitching on gfy can do good , maybe they will disclose their privacy policy, disclose their employees privacy policies and disclose what methods they use to protect your identification so their customers feel comfortable , like every other bank you put your money in. :2 cents:

or you could just wait until something bad happens and blame everyone else :)

WarChild 02-21-2009 09:44 AM

It's a Visa policy called "know your customer". A copy of your ID and a untility bill isn't very private, stop whining already.

BVF 02-21-2009 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ (Post 15530462)
I was using epassporte since 2003 - without any problems.
now they need some docs to verify my account, what a joke.

they want :
* Any formal, government issued proof of address (not including ID). This can usually be obtained at your local post office, or other local government agency.
* A bank-statement
* A utility-bill (phone, electricity, water, gas, etc...)

* Government Issued Photo ID

Whats next ? Fingerprints ? Color of my wifes undies ? My DNA ? :(

So i decided not sending the required docs, and say goodbye.

Anyone else ?

If you open up an offshore account in Belize, they require a letter of recommendation from your home bank....

John-ACWM 02-21-2009 09:48 AM

They didn't pop the question yet

PantieZ 02-21-2009 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paymeback (Post 15530877)
So you trusted them enough to have (im guessing) thousands of dollars of affiliate programs payments that you earnt paid into your account for over 5 years but you're worried about sending them "private docs" only to prove your identity?

you guess wrong, i never used them to payout my affiliates.
I would never wire thousands of dollars to a offshore company.
I learned my lesson with GloBill - they were located in St.Kitten.
I also always took care that my account is almost empty.

PantieZ 02-21-2009 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15531284)
It's a Visa policy called "know your customer". A copy of your ID and a untility bill isn't very private, stop whining already.

ok if a bank statement is not private, go ahead and post yours here ?!

Slappin Fish 02-21-2009 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15531284)
It's a Visa policy called "know your customer". A copy of your ID and a untility bill isn't very private, stop whining already.

Exactly. A doorman can ask for an ID, a hotel receptionist, a cashier, a waitress.... not very private.

Slappin Fish 02-21-2009 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ (Post 15531330)
ok if a bank statement is not private, go ahead and post yours here ?!

Bank statement or utility bill, blank out the account number or send a utility bill, where is the problem?

Unless you've been lying, then it proves they were right to ask :2 cents:

PantieZ 02-21-2009 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 15531345)
Bank statement or utility bill, blank out the account number or send a utility bill, where is the problem?

Unless you've been lying, then it proves they were right to ask :2 cents:


1. read
2. think
3. understand
4. post

:2 cents:

Slappin Fish 02-21-2009 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ (Post 15531365)
1. read
2. think
3. understand
4. post

:2 cents:

Couldn't argue against the fact you are just a whining little bitch so you came up with that. :1orglaugh

You don't want to give the docs, it is too much for your whining ass, then don't. Good luck cashing in your checks :thumbsup

PantieZ 02-21-2009 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 15531393)
Couldn't argue against the fact you are just a whining little bitch so you came up with that. :1orglaugh

You don't want to give the docs, it is too much for your whining ass, then don't. Good luck cashing in your checks :thumbsup

thx for enlighten me, seems you are always right. thank you !

Furious_Male 02-21-2009 10:29 AM

My only issue with epassporte is I think they should start asking new account holders for this information. I know it can be a pain for some people to get all the requested info together but with the number of new fraud accounts I see on a weekly basis it could go a long way in slowing the fraudsters down.

Its interesting that a 5 year epassporte member has to put all this together but some dirt bags in Vietnam can create countless accounts weekly and use them while trying to defraud affiliate programs.

dial 02-21-2009 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15530943)
It was a huge pain in the ass for me, I haven't gotten a utility bill in years, and don't have anything with my name on it... Took a few days for me to come up with some paperwork that epass would accept, but they did and I haven't had a problem since.

can I ask what you came up with?

I have no issue with a passport, but I don't have ANYTHING with my name on it...no bank account, no utilities, etc

LadyMischief 02-21-2009 10:31 AM

So glad I don't deal with Epassporte anymore. Had NOTHING but crap from them for years, constantly getting billed for new cards when I had a new one, stupid stuff.

directfiesta 02-21-2009 10:32 AM

What is the problem ?

They asked the same of me last week. Took 3 minutes to upload, 2 days for them to review and it is done.

Bi big shit ...

NOTR 02-21-2009 10:38 AM

Send them a copy of your utility bill simple as that.

This isn't something epass wants to do, it's Visa regulations. In order for epass to use the Visa network they need to abide by Visa rules.

NYRangers 02-21-2009 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 15531018)
For everyone who says "whats the big deal" or "just like a bank "

I should remind you epassporte is not a bank , you get no interest , your money is not insured and you would never have opened an account without i.d. so thus the bank would never "seize" your money.

I should also remind you , you have no idea where your id is stored , what countries nationals have access to your id, what safeguards are in place to protect your id etc etc.

Epassporte has everything needed to thieve your identity.

Remember 9/11 , all those terrorists had fake identities they stole from someone , likely by hacking or having a plant in an org just like this.

In the usa you have a reasonable expectation that when you show your id at the bank , it is an american checking the i.d. and you have legal options if they dont honour your privacy, all this goes out the window when you willingly give your id to someone who may or may not be american , who may or may not be bound by privacy laws, who may or may not be linked to a terrorist organization.

:1orglaugh

this has to be sarcastic and I'm still to drunk to catch it right? :1orglaugh

"a reasonable expectation that it's an American checking the id" :1orglaugh

Christ, this cracks me up. Even if it was true what does that matter? I love when people bitch about a company that makes their life so much easier suddenly seems shady to them. You knew what you were getting involved with, don't be surprised when "issues" arise.

Adam X 02-21-2009 10:42 AM

a necessary "evil" that will help keep your money safe..

baddog 02-21-2009 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ (Post 15530462)
Anyone else ?

I did the same.

u-Bob 02-21-2009 10:44 AM

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/...-girl-face.jpg

baddog 02-21-2009 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy (Post 15530689)
Once your account reaches a certain amount ($5000), they require the authentification.
Nothing wrong with that. They will not ask you again once you send in the docs.

I never left a balance of more than a few hundred dollars. They asked me, so apparently you are incorrect.

Barefootsies 02-21-2009 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ (Post 15530462)
So i decided not sending the required docs, and say goodbye.

Anyone else ?

Nope.

When this situation comes up, I provide docs. I have nothing to hide, and play by the rules.

:2 cents:

u-Bob 02-21-2009 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15531530)
I never left a balance of more than a few hundred dollars. They asked me, so apparently you are incorrect.

It's $5k in your account or x amount of $ going through your account.

doridori 02-21-2009 11:04 AM

yea....they are going too far.

Barefootsies 02-21-2009 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 15531579)
It's $5k in your account or x amount of $ going through your account.

Either way, they have to be able to answer to Homeland Security (if U.S. based). The banking laws have changed.

shunga 02-21-2009 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Male (Post 15531461)
Its interesting that a 5 year epassporte member has to put all this together but some dirt bags in Vietnam can create countless accounts weekly and use them while trying to defraud affiliate programs.

QFT.

But overall, welcome to the modern world. No one cares for it all that much, but it's how things are done.

Blazed 02-21-2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 15530881)
when was the last time a bank asked you for a bank statement
with all their problems i would be afraid that money would suddenly disappear from a real account if i gave them my bank statement (with all my account info on it)

You dont need to show them a full bank statement just the part with your name and address on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15531530)
I never left a balance of more than a few hundred dollars. They asked me, so apparently you are incorrect.

You dont need it at once, its the same thing paypal do although i think paypal do it once you have had $3k go through your account i cant remember.

OP who are you going to use to transfer money now? There really is no other good service apart from epass and paypal and you cant use either.

marketsmart 02-21-2009 12:24 PM

chris is busy making "boutique movies" now.. he doesnt give a fuck about you or your account... so move on.... move on....

seriously.... move on....

Va2k 02-21-2009 12:33 PM

I don't understand why anyone that is legit wouldn't do this? I can understand scammers and the likes freaking out but honest people ?

papill0n 02-21-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 15531018)
For everyone who says "whats the big deal" or "just like a bank "

I should remind you epassporte is not a bank , you get no interest , your money is not insured and you would never have opened an account without i.d. so thus the bank would never "seize" your money.

I should also remind you , you have no idea where your id is stored , what countries nationals have access to your id, what safeguards are in place to protect your id etc etc.

Epassporte has everything needed to thieve your identity.

Remember 9/11 , all those terrorists had fake identities they stole from someone , likely by hacking or having a plant in an org just like this.

In the usa you have a reasonable expectation that when you show your id at the bank , it is an american checking the i.d. and you have legal options if they dont honour your privacy, all this goes out the window when you willingly give your id to someone who may or may not be american , who may or may not be bound by privacy laws, who may or may not be linked to a terrorist organization.


wow you got to be kidding me

I knew the terrorists would be behind this too. :1orglaugh

brassmonkey 02-21-2009 12:36 PM

man i push alot of doe through there per month their solid

starpimps 02-21-2009 12:39 PM

funny when i first opened my account to fund party poker back in the day. I remember sending my docs in and now they are requesting it again

ugh


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