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candyflip 02-22-2009 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15534377)
I dont prove anything, the client you ripped off proved it. He came to gfy and was upset because you scammed him for, what almost a $1,000?

The burden of proof is not on me, as its been proven time and time again by the client you ripped off. He was very upset after giving you money and then seeing the galleries on my site.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...lip+steali ng

Ya see, why WOUld I have to prove anything? I was made aware of this by someone contacting ME about being ripped off BY YOU! They wanted me to vouch for THEM, now I have to prove it to you?

Thats not how it works, you ripped the client off, he came to me to verify it, he then made a thread saying you stole, not me.

The client you ripped off is who you need to go after, not mw. I only verified it was in fact downloaded from my site.

See why i dont have to prove anything? The client you scammed already did that FOR ME.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...lip+steali ng

anyone buying anything from candylfip should investigate whether he has resell rights to do so, he has been busted selling stolen templates more than once.

Again, I made templates that looked just like yours. That is what he was he brought to your attention. Not that he wanted a gallery from Sponsor A and I just downloaded one of your Sponsor A galleries and sold it to him...which is what you want people to believe.

That is simply not the case. He got galleries that looked like yours, different colors, different sponsors, different text. They were made in the same style as yours. It's really that simple and the only reason you can't or won't see that is because you really think that people here care. Guess what...they don't.

I don't need to go after anyone, I don't give a shit. What I do give a shit is about you spewing lies. I did not download and resell anything from your site or the Hun for that matter. I made galleries that looked just like yours and that's it.

Oh and Weppel, the guy who's thread you always reference bought 10-15 templates. Those style templates were worth $10 a pop in bulk then, probably less now. If you think I was charging $1000 for 10 templates, you're out of your mind.

marketsmart 02-22-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15534347)
Fletch XXX shut the fuck up you're the worst designer on this board, go sell some more $5 galleries

FLETCH XXX Shut the fuck up also... why do you have to bring this shit up every week..

every knows the story, you don't need to hijack every thread with this bullshit..

move on with your life...

or if you must post this shit, start your own thread..

\
k.thnx...........

Fletch XXX 02-22-2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 15534531)

I did not download and resell anything from your site

riiight, as i said, you sell someone stolen stuff, they get upset.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...lip+steali ng

Fletch XXX 02-22-2009 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 15534545)

move on with your life...

take your own advice and stay out of my business.

if this doesnt concern you, run along, otherwise you seem to care a lot about this

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-22-2009 09:39 AM

This thread confuses me, is it about Jon Clark scamming or Candyflip?! :eek7

candyflip 02-22-2009 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15534561)
This thread confuses me, is it about Jon Clark scamming or Candyflip?! :eek7

Fletch is crying about me copying his templates 7 years ago now. Yes, I copied his template style. I did not steal them like he wants to make out.

Everyone here has seen him bring it up every chance he gets. He's gotta have something to cling to.

So long as the thread keeps bumped and more people see what a total ass and wannabe Jon Clark is, I'm happy.

LeRoy 02-22-2009 09:45 AM

Can someone post a link to the design? I wanna see it :)

Iron Fist 02-22-2009 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15534340)
Hello? Been proven, verified and examined over and over.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...lip+steali ng

Come on guys... the link is from 2004... and none of the links in the post work anymore. Don't you think this argument is a little stale? :Oh crap

Fletch XXX 02-22-2009 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 15534573)

Everyone here has seen him bring it up every chance he gets.

if you had stolen from baddog or xxxjay theyd do the same.

and everytime i do more and more people are made aware :thumbsup

the quote above "everyone knows the story" ix exactly my goal, if you think this stuff upsets me you arent looking close enough ;)

http://www.15dollargalleries.com

candyflip 02-22-2009 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15534589)
Come on guys... the link is from 2004... and none of the links in the post work anymore. Don't you think this argument is a little stale? :Oh crap

It works with his "The Name You Trust" campaign. You need something when you're still hustling TGP gallery designs in 2009.

Everyone knows and no one cares. I have never hurt for business or had someone not take my money. :1orglaugh

If I post here Fletch, will you post again and make sure to get the last word in?

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-22-2009 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15534595)
if you had stolen from baddog or xxxjay theyd do the same.

and everytime i do more and more people are made aware :thumbsup

the quote above "everyone knows the story" ix exactly my goal, if you think this stuff upsets me you arent looking close enough ;)

http://www.15dollargalleries.com

I understand you want to keep people aware of shady stuff someone does, but do you really need to derail every thread he posts in to make it a 2 pager of just you two arguing back and forth about it? Honestly...

Fletch XXX 02-22-2009 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15534589)
Come on guys... the link is from 2004... and none of the links in the post work anymore. Don't you think this argument is a little stale? :Oh crap

if i ripped someone off you think theyd forget? nope. :)

so i mentioned it in a scammer thread, why does the problem have to do with me and not the criminal? you guys are funny...

if you had been scammed you wouldnt forget either. a client from gfy was ripped off and scammed, how long ago doesnt matter. he was ripped off by candyflip.

marketsmart 02-22-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15534559)
take your own advice and stay out of my business.

if this doesnt concern you, run along, otherwise you seem to care a lot about this

it concerns mean when you hijack other peoples threads to bring this up... :2 cents:

candyflip 02-22-2009 10:00 AM

It's when you call me a criminal for copying the style you use to make templates that you lose all credibility.

bushwacker 02-22-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 15534626)
it concerns mean when you hijack other peoples threads to bring this up... :2 cents:

Are you the thread police? :upsidedow

Fletch XXX 02-22-2009 10:02 AM

well my intention was surely not to hijack. my apologies for that. I simply mentioned him in passing in post #23. I didnt quote him or troll him, I simply mentioned him posting in the thread.

again my apologies for hijack, but i am not the criminal seeking shelter.

Machete_ 02-22-2009 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15534595)
if you had stolen from baddog or xxxjay theyd do the same.





Sure, but you are not them, and its a 5 year old $15 gallery FFS!!

Put it in your sig, so people can see it and then move along instead of having to hijack every fucking thread you two idiots are in

marketsmart 02-22-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bushwacker (Post 15534639)
Are you the thread police? :upsidedow

as soon as i get my badge in the mail... :thumbsup

baddog 02-22-2009 10:06 AM

I have used Jon a couple times with no issues. In fact, when I needed a fairly major change made he was able to get it done at a fair price and in a reasonable amount of time.

fris 02-22-2009 10:10 AM

why would you send anymoney to that crook?

if a designer doesnt deliver since hes pocketing the money, goto the source, dont deal through a 3rd party.

Barefootsies 02-22-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 15534155)
wow, someone needs design in two days, you said yes, then you didnt deliver it, and now your answer is "sig spot"? you are fucking stupid idiot noob ... go fuck yourself jon asshole ... no more to say, hope you will end at the streets begging for food ... shithead ...

:2 cents:

GAMEFINEST 02-22-2009 10:24 AM

who are these peeeps

V_RocKs 02-22-2009 12:04 PM

This looks like a nice thread to bump.

JamesK 02-22-2009 12:07 PM

another drama thread ruined by Fletch/Candyflip :(

candyflip 02-22-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesK (Post 15534975)
another drama thread ruined by Fletch/Candyflip :(

I try to ignore it, but you can only take so much and lash out.

I copied his templates, he can cry about that. I'm guilty.

I didn't download and resell anything, so I'm not going to stand for being called a criminal...and you wouldn't either.

Jon Clark is still a tool, that wasn't lost in this thread.

CyberHustler 02-22-2009 12:31 PM


JamesK 02-22-2009 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 15535012)
I try to ignore it, but you can only take so much and lash out.

I copied his templates, he can cry about that. I'm guilty.

I didn't download and resell anything, so I'm not going to stand for being called a criminal...and you wouldn't either.

Jon Clark is still a tool, that wasn't lost in this thread.

Why don't you try and work this out with Fletch? If I copied someones templates and got caught selling them to my own clients, I'd contact the guy, apologize and offer some $ to make up.

It doesn't matter if you stole the design files or just retraced it and made them yourself (which you're claiming), you did something wrong here and it's your job to make things right. I am pretty sure you haven't done this yet cause Fletch is still on your ass in every fucking thread.

:2 cents:

dial 02-22-2009 03:31 PM

sig spot

DarkJedi 02-22-2009 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15534647)
I have used Jon a couple times with no issues. In fact, when I needed a fairly major change made he was able to get it done at a fair price and in a reasonable amount of time.

I wonder, does doing business with an idiot make you an idiot by proxy?

ofc in case of baddgog it's a moot point

:1orglaugh

avcmodels 02-22-2009 05:09 PM

The design was actually the redesign of a Top Girls Page.He had only to add something to make it different then the rest of the pages .
What he delivered was in the end some page where he copy pasted parts from the profile of the girls ...
Design is here : http://tinyurl.com/dzn7eh

Some people asked why they don't ban him .I think is better to know who we deal with and just stay away rather then banning him and coming back with another name harder to spot etc.

cykoe6 02-22-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 15534105)
Seriously, are you the most creative BP character ever?

I agree. A real masterpiece. :thumbsup

candyflip 02-22-2009 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK (Post 15535547)
Why don't you try and work this out with Fletch? If I copied someones templates and got caught selling them to my own clients, I'd contact the guy, apologize and offer some $ to make up.

It doesn't matter if you stole the design files or just retraced it and made them yourself (which you're claiming), you did something wrong here and it's your job to make things right. I am pretty sure you haven't done this yet cause Fletch is still on your ass in every fucking thread.

:2 cents:

I don't owe Fletch shit. And that's that. I have no need or interest in doing so.

He can follow me around all he wants. He's only making himself look like a fool in the process.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-22-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avcmodels (Post 15535816)
The design was actually the redesign of a Top Girls Page.He had only to add something to make it different then the rest of the pages .
What he delivered was in the end some page where he copy pasted parts from the profile of the girls ...
Design is here : http://tinyurl.com/dzn7eh

Some people asked why they don't ban him .I think is better to know who we deal with and just stay away rather then banning him and coming back with another name harder to spot etc.

Thanks for proving I did not scam you and in fact did deliver design...


Now some questions for you...

Did my company design most of your site..?

Have I ever had a refund policy..?

Have I not always made you pay for each new revision..?











As far as me being banned.. lol


I am not the one who broke a rule here.. You are.. You called me a scammer in the same post that you actually admitted I delivered in... I am not going to request your banning due to your self ownage in this failed thread..


I am sorry VanityCash did not work out for you as you hoped.. But it is not a good reason to take your frustrations out on a guy that has been here taking care of you every step of the way.. :2 cents:


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