Sounds like people just looking for something to whine about with the word Obama in it for pageviews. Same shit different day blah blah blah. This won't effect anyone here personally and you all know it. None of you keyboard warriors drive around with full autos or even have them in your homes for that matter. Now a total ban on guns, I can see bitching, maybe you should read a little harder or find something more useful to whine about.

Isn't that because full autos are already banned?

I'm not sure what citizens with guns would do against air attacks though, which is all they did.

Its alright that you dont understand.

FACT - if Russia or China really want to invade the U.S. they will just develop some intercontinental missiles, launch their shit from the Arctic, Canada, or sub's and when shit is in ruins, invade.

That is the DUMBEST excuse for not invading a country - and if its true, then they deserved to get their shit blasted. Any military bozo will know that a gun in the hands of an untrained person is as good as a monkey with a calculator in an accounting office.

You think the US military will bomb US cities killing US citizens?

How the fuck do you "invade" a country with only intercontinental missiles?

Go study history :2 cents:

No but if they did having guns won't help them. I was talking about Japan attacking American in WW2 though..

I'd like to own my own Howitzer but I don't think they'll let me.

Well try as i might, beyond americans jumping into planes and going to japan with their gunds in hand, what would it help?

Member "Tomahawk" Missiles? Gulf War? Kuwait? Iraq? etc etc etc....

Do you see no difference in dropping bombs from airplanes vs. sending in enough ground troops to invade the US? Your ignorance knows no bounds... :2 cents:

You can bomb a country all day with intercontinental missiles, but you need ground troops for a successful invasion. Unless you go Hiroshima x100 and try to kill everyone you do not win without ground troops.

Yawn. Keep ole Dixie flyin.

Fact: A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the ban. Voting record for the 10-year ban, includes John McCain.

50/53 (94.3%) Democrats voted for the legislation.
45/47 (95.7%) Republicans voted for the legislation.

Republicans supporting the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act: Richard Shelby (AL), Frank Murkowski, Ted Stevens (AK), John McCain (AZ), Kit Bond (MO), Conrad Burns (MT), Judd Gregg, Robert C. Smith (NH), Pete Domenici (NM), Al D'Amato (NY), Lauch Faircloth, Jesse Helms (NC), Don Nickles (OK), Bob Packwood (OR), Arlen Specter (PA), John Chafee (RI), Strom Thurmond (SC), Larry Pressler (SD), Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX), Hank Brown, Ben Campbell (CO), William Roth (DE), Connie Mack (FL), Paul Coverdell (GA), Larry Craig, Dirk Kempthorne (ID), Dan Coats, Richard Lugar (IN), Chuck Grassley (IA), Bob Dole, Nancy Kassebaum (KS), Mitch McConnell (KY), William Cohen (ME), Thad Cochran, Trent Lott (MS), Bob Bennett, Orrin Hatch (UT), Jim Jeffords (VT), John Warner (VA), Slade Gorton (WA), Alan Simpson, Malcolm Wallop (WY)

You summed it up.

That's a moot point for me. I'm not a Republican.

Nor are those with Rs next to their name that voted for it :winkwink:

but do you honestly believe a country wouldn't invade the US becuase some of the civilian population was armed? afghanistan is one of the most armed country's in the world, that didn't stop the russians or US.

Obama ran as a hard leftist and now everyone acts surprised when he keeps his word.

come and get it

https://youtube.com/watch?v=alCogv7mQOk

Who would have thought? A politician keeping his word. My oh my.

People owning assault weapons is fucking stupid, period. There is no reason Joe Redneck should ever own an M16. So he can shoot deer? fuck that.

For arguments sake, let's say Joe Redneck is completely responsible with this gun, jerks off to the firepower, locks it up at night, etc. The problem is the fact that the M16 is available to Joe Redneck. When it's available to Joe Redneck, it's also available to anyone and before we know it, banks are getting robbed by people holding M16's, cops are getting shot at, gangs are shooting up neighborhoods like war zones.

It's bad enough there are more guns than people on the streets, so the damage is long done there. Banning regular guns (which should have been done before the damage) wouldn't do shit now because the black market would have no problem supplying criminals for many, many years even if another gun is never made in the world.

I'm glad Obama is pissing off the rednecks now to prevent our streets from eventually turning into war zones.

I know that is one of the reasons that Japan did not during WWII. We armed the Afghans and they successfully defended their country from the Soviets. It remains to be seen whether we will be successful in Afghanistan. This could be Obama's Vietnam.

This is all besides the point though. Bottom line is the founding fathers put the right to bear arms in our Constitution as the last of our checks and balances. This right is to protect us from our own government if it were to become tyrannical.

Earth to moron assault weapons arent for hunting deer you idiot.

They are so that the citizens can overthrow a tyrannical government.

You may be OK licking jackboots....good for you have at it.

You want my guns? Come get em.

Congrats, you're one of the brainwashed dumb fuck citizens the government counts on. Way to support the idiocracy. :thumbsup

Do you know how many crimes are committed with LEGAL firearms versus ILLEGAL firearms? Lets put a spectrum number to all crimes committed with firearms and say the number is 100. So out of that 100, 1 or 2 would be attributed to persons using a legally obtained firearm to commit a crime.

It is an absolutely ridiculous idea, and down right lacking in ANY intelligence, to believe that taking guns out of the hands of "LAW ABIDING" citizens will reduce crime. Criminals do not care about laws and will obtain their firearms the way the always have, by stealing them or buying them out of the trunk of an illegal gun runner/dealer.

Please wake the fuck up and get a grip on reality. :disgust

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QUOTED FOR TRUTH...

the brain dead sheep will never get it.

Chris Rock had the ultimate solution.

Maybe if you rednecks grew up in places where you could close your eyes, throw a rock and hit a crack house, or seen armed gang members roam the streets fucking with everyone they seen, or if you've had a gun pulled on you a number of times (like I have), you guys would give a fuck about whether or not they had access to assault weapons.

I'm the one who lives in reality. I see this shit on a daily basis. You guys have no fucking clue what you're talking about, it's sad really. Go jerk off on your guns, and sleep with your false sense of security that it actually makes a difference. I tell you one thing, if some guys come up and surprise you with guns to your face, you may think about reaching for your gun, but you will know full well your head will be on the sidewalk before you even make it.

Owning guns may make you feel all tough, which I know you badly need because you probably got your ass handed to you in fights growing up, but I guaran-fucking-tee when push comes to shove, you'd be shitting your pants whether you own a piece or not

Hey moron, trying using what little brain cells you have left and try to follow what I am saying... I will keep it short for you.

"It is an absolutely ridiculous idea, and down right lacking in ANY intelligence, to believe that taking guns out of the hands of "LAW ABIDING" citizens will reduce crime. Criminals do not care about laws and will obtain their firearms the way the always have, by stealing them or buying them out of the trunk of an illegal gun runner/dealer."

Banning guns WILL NOT remove them from the hands of the people (criminals) that you are talking about.

Please tell me you are not that stupid and if you DID live in those areas you would already KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I AM TALKING ABOUT. You think that drug dealer went down to the gun store, put his name through the federal background check, and got a gun he KNOWS he will be using in criminal activity?

I assume most people here interested in this might have seen the news segments about how american assault weapons are being used by the mexican drug cartels to fight the drug war and threaten the mexican government.

Its funny to hear republicans whine in one breath how mexico is going to collapse, then in the next breath about how there current favorite bogeyman Obama is gonna not let them buy assault weapons anymore.

If you are so fucking retarded that you want assault weapons and you haven't boughtt them already, you are too fucking dumb to live anyway.

You're an idiot. Where did I say to take the guns out of law abiding citizens?

Calling me a moron, yet can't read. Irony.

I'm talking about assault weapons, and not making them available to anyone any longer. I already said there is little we could do about regular guns, and not once did I call for the banning of regular guns. There is absolutely no need for anyone not in the military to own an assault weapon. None. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You're just one of those redneck retards all paranoid someone is going to come in and take away your only sense of security. Next time, put down the Keystone Light, pull your sister off your lap and try reading a little bit before you get your sisters panties in a bunch (which of course you are likely wearing)

I guess all of the school shootings and crazy fucks who snap are for the greater good when this actually happens. :1orglaugh

"45/47 (95.7%) Republicans voted for the legislation." -- Who's going to stick up for you guys? They think you're all chumps. Your party's selling you out.

When I say guns I am STAYING ON TOPIC OF THE THREAD. Please do the same, fuckstick. I am lashing against this stupid remark you made.

Who in their right fucking mind thinks criminals get their "assault weapons" from licensed dealers?

I was in a LE type career for many years and service, trained in multiple uses of various firearms in almost any situation as well as other types of self defense. I dont even OWN an assault rifle. Far from a coward, but hey, you are probably the only person to ever live in a shitty neighborhood or dealt with lowlifes. Something like that?

You do not know me motherfucker so keep you dumb fucking assumptions to yourself.

Tragic as those types of events are they still do not occur often enough to warrant a ban on them. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Just with any other tool they want to use, it isn't the tools intent but that of the persons. If someone wants to kill someone I seriously doubt strict gun laws will stop them, they will simply look for another means.

Topic = Obama to seek new assault weapons ban

Note, this is what I was referring to.



Again, put down the Keystone Light and re-read what I said. Just manufacturing them and selling them to law abiding people allows the criminals to get them. This isn't meth where dealers can make the shit in their basement. Between the manufacturer and Mr. Keystone Light, the assault weapons have to pass through way too many hands which increases chances of corruption at every stop.

Or do you have your head in the sand and believe guns are made at some factory, and in a completely secure fashion, delivered to 100% lawful gun dealers who all have no intent to grease their pockets on the side? Ahh, what a world you must live in to believe that.

That's reality for you. Every assault weapon some company makes increases the chances of it ending up in the hands of some thug and eventually pointed at you when he's stealing your wallet (or worse).

But shit, even if the entire process was 100% secure, I still don't think retard no-brain Americans should have such power in their house. I mean where do you draw the line? Are you going to be demanding tanks next? Shit, I think every citizen should have a nuke in their house! I guarantee nobody will be breaking in if I have a nuke hanging around.

Let them. I'd rather someone come at me with a baseball bat, knife, or even a fucking sword than an uzi.