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DarkJedi 03-02-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15573189)
Funny thing on that I have had more people hit me up today because of this thread so thats why i keep bumping it, I really don't care what people think, its making me money the more this stays at the top, and in the end we will get the domain, I dont really put faith in GFY legal opinions I pay lawyers for their opinions.

I wonder, do you have this response framed on the wall in a very prominent spot in your office?

Every time Twistys gets owned the shit out of, the lapdog employees start posting how much business they are getting from the ownage threads.

:1orglaugh

Seriously. Do you really think people here are THAT stupid?

cess 03-02-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15573195)
BTW thanks for everyone hitting the site, looks like best day ever on http://www.sextube.com keep it up.

I would hope not, this thread doesn't even have 2k views.

MaDalton 03-02-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by notime (Post 15573113)
:1orglaugh Can I pay you in beer then ?

I ain't cheap, yo :winkwink:

JaneB 03-02-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15573213)
I thought somebody was quoted in some other thread about how the affiliate model is on its last legs and priorities are moving to other business models that will cut out the affiliates completely?

Perhaps. I did not see that thread, I will have to see if I can find it. :winkwink:

sicone 03-02-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15573152)
... as I post this.

Any lawyer worth 2 cents would have already told you and Shap to shut the fuck up about this in a public forum.

Yet you still sit here and run your yap, and worse yet... not only are you responding to anyone and everyone here, you respond directly to the person(s) you are going after.

Would you really trust a lawyer who isn't capable of even giving the most basic of advice? I know I wouldn't and would be filing the proper paperwork to remove him from all active cases and replace him with a new one.

Or perhaps, this lawyer has big balls and prefers to let his clients sink their own ship while fighting the good fight. Eh... What would he care, he gets paid the same legal fees no matter the outcome.

bdld 03-02-2009 03:20 PM

getting lawyers involved in something like this is equivalent to calling your mommy.

mpahlca 03-02-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15573228)
I wonder, do you have this response framed on the wall in a very prominent spot in your office?

Every time Twistys gets owned the shit out of, the lapdog employees start posting how much business they are getting from the ownage threads.

:1orglaugh

Seriously. Do you really think people here are THAT stupid?


LOL i think i am the only twistys "lapdog" you are referring to as we really don't have a lot of staff who post, and if we are getting owned that awesome, for the person who owned us if you can point me to the post I would appreciate it.

If you don't think that a bunch of sponsors have hit me up to be on a legal tube you are kidding yourself.

PornMD 03-02-2009 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 15573251)
Any lawyer worth 2 cents would have already told you and Shap to shut the fuck up about this in a public forum.

Yet you still sit here and run your yap, and worse yet... not only are you responding to anyone and everyone here, you respond directly to the person(s) you are going after.

Would you really trust a lawyer who isn't capable of even giving the most basic of advice? I know I wouldn't and would be filing the proper paperwork to remove him from all active cases and replace him with a new one.

Or perhaps, this lawyer has big balls and prefers to let his clients sink their own ship while fighting the good fight. Eh... What would he care, he gets paid the same legal fees no matter the outcome.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Either their lawyer is incredibly stupid or he doesn't know that 2 Twistys'ers are posting here (especially responding to the other party) and he'll scold the fuck out of them when he finds out.

Porn Producer 03-02-2009 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15573115)
Check ours for any stolen content we are 100% legit.

here is proof Twistys build their own tubes on stolen content:

(but of course it were rogue affiliates who uploaded the content)

http://www.skinnytwink.com/gfy/shap/...ter-north2.jpg

mpahlca 03-02-2009 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 15573251)
Any lawyer worth 2 cents would have already told you and Shap to shut the fuck up about this in a public forum.

Yet you still sit here and run your yap, and worse yet... not only are you responding to anyone and everyone here, you respond directly to the person(s) you are going after.

Would you really trust a lawyer who isn't capable of even giving the most basic of advice? I know I wouldn't and would be filing the proper paperwork to remove him from all active cases and replace him with a new one.

Or perhaps, this lawyer has big balls and prefers to let his clients sink their own ship while fighting the good fight. Eh... What would he care, he gets paid the same legal fees no matter the outcome.

Yep he would, but since I am not a legal owner/partner of the site or the company not even a legal rep to the company it wouldn't matter. I am not going after anyone, i am just posting in a forum, I don't work for Carsed Marketing nor have I ever.

tony286 03-02-2009 03:29 PM

shaptube ok?

mpahlca 03-02-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15573339)
shaptube ok?

Yeah man we don't own that

Darkhorse 03-02-2009 03:31 PM

At the end of the day it's all about traffic, getting as much of it as you can, there is no morals ethics or any of the latter.....

That domain (hardsextube) was live for 2yrs now and it has good traffic so we want it, but its just biz and we are trying to get more for ourselves anyway we can right or wrong who cares...

fris 03-02-2009 03:31 PM

bump for hardsextube cause he has 100x the traffic sextube does

hdkiller 03-02-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15573143)
Then why didn't your respond with the legal documents instead of having your friend post here?

We know we can protect ourselfs, even in a court... Even in an USA or in a CA court. Also if they manage to make me a downtime, i am sure i will have a compensation, millions of usd. And i don't care who bribe the ICANN. We still speaking about lot of money. We can play a game like this, but i know who can create the more damage...

Sands 03-02-2009 03:35 PM

I just regged essextube.com

notime 03-02-2009 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 15573238)
I ain't cheap, yo :winkwink:

I guess we have to share all the burden then...

mpahlca 03-02-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Porn Producer (Post 15573284)
here is proof Twistys build their own tubes on stolen content:

(but of course it were rogue affiliates who uploaded the content)

http://www.skinnytwink.com/gfy/shap/...ter-north2.jpg

Sorry, not sure where that video is we have searched our site, and can't find it. Can you let me know when that was taken and I will take care of it.

Shap 03-02-2009 03:42 PM

One comment regarding the lightspeed domain. We had a few lightspeed domains and always promoted lightspeed. We made a deal with lightspeed to transfer them all over to them I was under the impression he had taken them all. Obviously he didn't so we'll get that taken care of when he is back from Hawaii.

acctman 03-02-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15572500)
Do you believe someone should be allowed to start twistystube? How about pepsitube?

We are just following our lawyer's advice and protecting our investments.

shut the fuck up... crap like that just pisses me off. you act like you own the rights to anything with sextube in it. no fucking web sufer is going to get confused by hardsextube and sextube.

DarkJedi 03-02-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15573450)
One comment regarding the lightspeed domain. We had a few lightspeed domains and always promoted lightspeed. We made a deal with lightspeed to transfer them all over to them I was under the impression he had taken them all. Obviously he didn't so we'll get that taken care of when he is back from Hawaii.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The Duck 03-02-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15572568)
We trademarked SexTube and GayTube for the same reason we trademarked Twistys. To protect our investments.

We registered SexTube before YouTube was even registered. Back then tube was not a common term used online.

I appreciate your thoughts. We are simply following our lawyers advice. I'm not here to get into a debate of what is right or wrong.

Fucking hell. Think for yourself for just one second.

Young 03-02-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cess (Post 15573236)
I would hope not, this thread doesn't even have 2k views.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

xNetworx 03-02-2009 04:00 PM

http://www.willisms.com/archives/gordongecko.jpg

lazycash 03-02-2009 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15573450)
One comment regarding the lightspeed domain. We had a few lightspeed domains and always promoted lightspeed. We made a deal with lightspeed to transfer them all over to them I was under the impression he had taken them all. Obviously he didn't so we'll get that taken care of when he is back from Hawaii.

Let me guess, you made the same deal with iFriends.

TeenCat 03-02-2009 04:03 PM

so you are keeping your great business practices ... you got .ca already ... cool, you got it really so low, you are one of those sue everyone assholes, shame i didnt knew before and was sending you traffic. i am sick and i never wanted puke at gfy as in this thread reading twistys statement about suying other hard working people. fuck off!

HorseShit 03-02-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 15573556)
so you are keeping your great business practices ... you got .ca already ... cool, you got it really so low, you are one of those sue everyone assholes, shame i didnt knew before and was sending you traffic. i am sick and i never wanted puke at gfy as in this thread reading twistys statement about suying other hard working people. fuck off!

your 5 uniques total will be missed

TeenCat 03-02-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15573593)
your5 uniques total will be missed

7 a day ...

Oracle Porn 03-02-2009 04:07 PM

don't miss this one just in case
http://www.thesextubesite.com/

beerptrol 03-02-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 15573604)
don't miss this one just in case
http://www.thesextubesite.com/

Isn't that one of Choker's?

papill0n 03-02-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hdkiller (Post 15572997)
hardsextube is my trademark in hungary... also my domain is registered before your trade mark... you are a trademark troll..

you tell him man :thumbsup :thumbsup

Brujah 03-02-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 15573604)
don't miss this one just in case
http://www.thesextubesite.com/

Ouch, and proudly hosted by Mojo Host. I guess he has to enforce his trademark now though, or risk losing it. They can just send Brad Mitchell (posting in this thread) a copy of their trademark if he hasn't already seen it and DMCA the site.

TeenCat 03-02-2009 04:16 PM

finaly some fun. btw this is my first drama thread, cool i am enjoying it, thats why everyone is taking seat and popcorn? :) funny but cool, keep the good drama up! :thumbsup

Oracle Porn 03-02-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 15573625)
Isn't that one of Choker's?

im not up to date with the tube bizzniz, but judging by the elite design i would vote yes

Don Pueblo 03-02-2009 04:27 PM

i bet choker is going to be thrilled that you faggots dragged his site into this

alias 03-02-2009 04:28 PM

I'm going to start jacking domains with a scary letter now too. Thanks for the pro-tip!

acctman 03-02-2009 04:29 PM

anyone know a good ambulance chasing lawyer? i accidently purchased www.twistysextube.com

SpeakEasy 03-02-2009 04:30 PM

Wow some interresting reading for sure. The bottom line from all this is that this Shap dude is a slimey punk...:2 cents:

OK time to move on.

alias 03-02-2009 04:32 PM

Oh you mean this: Copyright ? 2007 - 2008 TheSexTubeSite / The Sex Tube Site. All Rights Reserved.
All images, movies & links appearing on this site contain models at least 18 years of age or older.
18 U.S.C. 2257 Record-Keeping Requirements Compliance Statement

He's getting owned! Twisty's OWNS THAT SHIT or they have a SPECIAL DEAL!

frank7799 03-02-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15572762)
So you guys think you can register sexyoutube.com and nothing would happen?

Well, if you do not provide colliding services, I doubt it.

And for sextube it is registered and should be protected, of course. But the registration could be vulnerable. "Sex" is descriptive as well as "tube". The combination of both could be descriptive also.

Blazed 03-02-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 15573359)
bump for hardsextube cause he has 100x the traffic sextube does

Not that it matters but it looks like its mostly traded with other junk sites, tons of dump/tgp quality traffic on a tube site is worth shit. Id bet sextube.com is the more profitable site just im sure snizzshare which also has tons less traffic is more profitable.

This is pretty fucked up though and if he lost his site that would be crazy.

Juicy D. Links 03-02-2009 04:41 PM

there is 2 hours of "24"' on tonight

Juicy D. Links 03-02-2009 04:42 PM

btw anybody want a cockmeat sandwhich?

Brujah 03-02-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 15573748)
Oh you mean this: Copyright ? 2007 - 2008 TheSexTubeSite / The Sex Tube Site. All Rights Reserved.
All images, movies & links appearing on this site contain models at least 18 years of age or older.
18 U.S.C. 2257 Record-Keeping Requirements Compliance Statement

He's getting owned! Twisty's OWNS THAT SHIT or they have a SPECIAL DEAL!

If I understand correctly, one way to lose your trademark is through selective enforcement. A "special deal" could be considered selective enforcement. Hdkiller's domain lawyer should read this thread. It might help their case.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-02-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15572669)
No offense but how is it stealing? and you saying this is BS, if i registered domains under your site for instance like hardragecash.com you wouldnt come after me?

RageCash isn't as big of a common word as sex and tube...

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15572694)
I can't believe how many people are backing a guy who built his traffic on stolen content lol

You were just posting a few weeks back about how you advertise on all the big illegal tubes...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15572732)
Check Shaps trademark its pre youtube.com so maybe if you did some research instead of posting you would have known that.

Or you guys know damn well Google's legal team will crush you like the cockroaches you are?

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15572742)
and yeah love the content on there,

http://www.hardsextube.com/video/118...Fashion.Gash--

guess nasty should ask why there video is up with no ads love you stolen tube backers fantastic, Shap can never win cause he is successful its too bad.

See above.

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15572829)
I was referring to the actual registration date or active point:

youtube: Registration Date October 28, 2008
sextube: Registration Date December 11, 2007

So you're saying, over a year AFTER Google purchased Youtube they decided to actually register the trademark? That's bizarre...

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15572948)
Just to make you feel better, we don't purchase ads there thats an affiliate account. Not a bought spot.

Shap has said himself he has purchased ads on big illegal tubes, so you're paid can response is moot.

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15573047)
hardsextube.com created on 21 Mar 2007

you think so? we will find out with Icann good luck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15573195)
BTW thanks for everyone hitting the site, looks like best day ever on http://www.sextube.com keep it up.

If (as I make this reply) 2,557 views is gonna cause your tube site to have it's best day, you should push harder to get hdkiller's site... because you'll piss yourself having hundreds of thousands of visitors a day...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sands (Post 15573382)
I just regged essextube.com

I LOL'd :1orglaugh

acctman 03-02-2009 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4yadult (Post 15573762)
Well, if you do not provide colliding services, I doubt it.

And for sextube it is registered and should be protected, of course. But the registration could be vulnerable. "Sex" is descriptive as well as "tube". The combination of both could be descriptive also.

from what i read hardsextube had there trademark first... just because it wasn't trademarked in the US doesn't give sextube the right to snatch it. he needs a new trademark lawyer that knows how to do global TM searches before sending out C&D letters.

Shap 03-02-2009 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by acctman (Post 15573819)
from what i read hardsextube had there trademark first... just because it wasn't trademarked in the US doesn't give sextube the right to snatch it. he needs a new trademark lawyer that knows how to do global TM searches before sending out C&D letters.

That is 100% false. We had the domain and trademark before they had domain and trademark.

CIVMatt 03-02-2009 04:47 PM

(Inserting smartass comment) So should I give all my teens domains over to Biggy?

Interesting thread

acctman 03-02-2009 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyandin (Post 15572565)
The domain purchasing system the world has been using for many years now is designed to be a fair, egalitarian system to allow any person or company to have equal rights and chances of getting a domain name. Anyone pushing against this is an enemy of the very nature of what the internet is supposed to be about.

i agree, i sometimes purchase 6-12 domains when i only need one. just to protect my investment. you'll spend more on lawyers and icann cases, when you could of just purchased the domain in the beginning.

Sands 03-02-2009 04:51 PM

There's just something about posting in Twistys drama threads. I don't know... reminds me of the old days when you used to go to the community pool in the summer and everyone you knew was there. Only on GFY, everyone is a lot fatter.


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